Elite 1500 Pricing
Minimum advertised pricing for the Elite 1500 has been released by Haltech.
ECU only - $1472 ECU and short flying lead harness - $1658 ECU and long flying lead or patch harness - $1800 |
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It's funny how the product is made in Australia and we have to pay nearly 1000 dollars more than you for the same product.
Gotta Love Haltech. |
Shit that's cheap in the US.
And as rx72c said, just really sad that its cheaper to buy in the US and ship back to Perth :( for a Aussie product. |
running ps1000 today, are the patch harness interchangable to the Elite? :lol:
good pricing for a new system :icon_tup: |
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YA! What's up with that?
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The Elite will be a plug in swap for the Sports on the full harnesses. On the patch looms, you may need to add a single wire for switched 12V+. Installed a 2500 on a piston engine this passed week and have 1500s on pre-order. We're told they'll arrive next Monday.
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But still no rotor support :(
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Rotor specific support is done. Staged injection, which is much anticipated in the piston world, is the part they're still working on.
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When upgrading from a ps1000 to an elite 1500, how is it to transfer the tune?
Copy and paste tables? Or just open whole tune and it is automatically converted? |
You may be able to. I haven't tried it with a pulse width map. The only car I've put an Elite on where we swapped from a Sport was a well developed Miata. I imported the fuel map only and manually entered the other parameters and we were running straight away. To import one or more maps or settings you just use the Import function. That was a VE map though. If you're currently using pulse width tuning and want to change to VE tuning, you'll need to start from scratch.
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Will it do VE with staged injection?
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Yes. That's what they're still working on. There will also be 3 stages.
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Well, I am looking forward to seeing what they come up with.
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As side note, importing isnt 100% straight forward. There are MANY differences in a lot of the new things that the Elite improves upon the Sports that dont corollate, you need to set a lot of the setup menus manually, and there are differences in the location, size and function of many new tables in the new ESP Software.
You can probably get away with importing the majority of your main tables, but some are different and under new menus. Haltech IS working on upgrading the base maps from ECU Manager into the Elite ESP software, but its a slow and meticulous process, AND some of the tables are being improved as well for even better start up maps. It will take time, but this new generation of products will be some serious hardware to beat! Stay tuned! |
Originally Posted by C. Ludwig
(Post 11868429)
The Elite will be a plug in swap for the Sports on the full harnesses. On the patch looms, you may need to add a single wire for switched 12V+. Installed a 2500 on a piston engine this passed week and have 1500s on pre-order. We're told they'll arrive next Monday.
Is it plug in for the old E11? |
Yes.
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Cool! Now one of the reasons I need to upgrade is because I've run out of aux outputs to control various things on my 20b. I need about 2 more outputs as the 6 on mine aren't enough.
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Originally Posted by C. Ludwig
(Post 11870064)
Yes. That's what they're still working on. There will also be 3 stages.
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Initial Staging Fuel testing has begun! :) Next up Rotary Support! Stay tuned!
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:)
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Awesome!
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Originally Posted by rx72c
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Ill be tuning a elite 1500 on a 13b in the next day or two. let you know how it goes. looks exciting that's for sure.
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lucky bugga.
Is it the 12A Rx3 with the EFR turbo? :) |
No its another car.Rx7 gt42
And that other rx3 is a 13b. Just has the wrong number plates on it. |
VE on elite for rotary is awesome
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Care to share the firmware?
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:)
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Can't wait to finally see rotary support. My car has been sitting too long!
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And will it be able to use a 36-1 and/or 60-2 trigger?
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Originally Posted by Vicoor
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And will it be able to use a 36-1 and/or 60-2 trigger?
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Guessing there is still no publicly available rotary support for the Elite?
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Nothing official but I finally got the beta firmware today. It'll be end of the week before we get a chance to run it. Everything looks just as you would expect. No big surprised. When we got the beta tester when the Elite 2500 was initially released, Haltech released the ECU to the public less than 2 weeks later. So, hopefully, it won't be long.
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Patiently waiting, time to start moving with car againg.
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Ran a 2-rotor on a 2500 today. Owner has been running a Sport ECU. I remoted in to plug in his I/O settings, zeroed the timing, and it fired right up first hit. He was driving the car on the street in about an hour. Most of that time was spent showing him the new stuff in the software.
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So, how does the injector staging work?
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Originally Posted by Vicoor
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So, how does the injector staging work?
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Originally Posted by C. Ludwig
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Not sure yet. He only saw 5 psi on his ~15 minute drive. With 1600 primaries I doubt he even got into the secondaries. We got a log and I'll look at it when I get a chance.
I know you have to at least had a look? Does it in fact allow for proper tuning of the base map and have enrichment/ enleanment parameters for staging and unstaging? |
I honestly haven't. The car is in Philly and I'm here in Louisville. I'm chatting with the owner now trying to get a log of the secondaries coming online to see how it's working. Other than saying he plugged it in, confirmed the timing, and went for a drive without doing one keystroke of fuel tuning, I can't say much else. It's probably not a fair test either. The injectors are 6 x 1600cc but the base pressure is 50 psi. So the actual volume is going to be off a little and we have no idea what it actually is without having the injectors tested. He's also running two 1600s per channel for secondaries. So is the volume 3200, more, less? What does having two injectors on each channel do to dead times? In the end, VE makes it easier to get the engine started and running the first time, but the injector information is much more critical to the end results than it would be using pulse width mapping.
Define what you would consider proper tuning of a base map? It's VE. It's pretty self explanatory. There are enrichment settings that are native for staging enrichment. Nothing for coming off staging. That said, with the user defined generic correct maps, you can do anything. And anything is not an exaggeration. I'm shipping another ECU out Monday that should get some work this week as well. It's going in a relatively stock FD that's daily driven. I'll update with results. |
Originally Posted by C. Ludwig
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Define what you would consider proper tuning of a base map? It's VE. It's pretty self explanatory. There are enrichment settings that are native for staging enrichment. Nothing for coming off staging.
I'm running a MegaSquirt in my truck, so I'm familiar with VE tuning. I like the fact that once it's tuned you can change injectors, input their size and dead times and away you go. I haven't looked at the tuning software in a while, has it been updated to reflect the changes, or are you using a special issue that's not available publicly? |
Curious has to how a tune from sport1000 transfers over to the 1500
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Originally Posted by JBF
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Curious has to how a tune from sport1000 transfers over to the 1500
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Originally Posted by C. Ludwig
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The Elite will be a plug in swap for the Sports on the full harnesses. On the patch looms, you may need to add a single wire for switched 12V+. Installed a 2500 on a piston engine this passed week and have 1500s on pre-order. We're told they'll arrive next Monday.
I wanted to ask and make sure before I jumped the gun, and most of this thread was back before too much was known. Thanks in advance. Skeese |
Pin A26 needs to be fed switched 12V+. Other than that, the only difference in the additional inputs and outputs.
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