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Blackadde/// 03-05-14 12:04 PM

Widefoot Sway-bar mounts
 
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Hello All,

I've been hounding David to make me a set of sway-bar mounts for my tri-point engineering sway bar, and he has agreed to start another manufacturing run. I'm not sure what it cost him to setup tooling, but he's set on only producing 12 sets.

There are already some people who who he promised some to via email, but let's see how many we can get. First come first serve if we can get enough interest, we'll have to knock off anyone at the bottom of the list if he can't meet production goals.



Pricing:
$310 (billet 6061 Mounts)
$200 (bronze bushing for tri-point bar)


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Cheers,
Mike

Blackadde/// 03-05-14 12:07 PM

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For the guys running the tri-Point sway-bar.

'ringmeister 03-05-14 12:53 PM

will these work with oem-style bars?

Spalato 03-05-14 01:10 PM

The sway bar mounts will work with any sway bar....or at least they should.

Its the actual brackets that connect to the mounts that can be different...or better said...maid specific for a certain bar ...i.e. the above pictured tri-point...

Maybe iIm wrong...dunno

Blackadde/// 03-05-14 01:26 PM

You are correct.

Mazderati 03-05-14 01:27 PM

Have a set of Widefoot mounts circa 2002. Do you know if the Tripoint bushing work on a mount from this era?

If so, I'll take one mount and two bushings. If not, I'll take one mount and one bushing.

Thanks for putting this together.



Interested with a few questions.

1. The attached pictures are labeled Ver2 and Ver1, respectively. I have a set of Widefoot mounts circa 2002. Was anything changed since that time? If not, I'll take a set of

Mazderati 03-05-14 01:29 PM

Can't edit the previous message to get rid of the extra text.

Mazderati 03-05-14 01:31 PM

I remember David made a spacer for people who wanted the stock mount location. Mine work great as is, but do you remember what that was about?

The mounts will include the radiator mount bracket, right?

Blackadde/// 03-05-14 02:15 PM

Mazderati, see quoted text below.


Originally Posted by WidefootRacing (Post 9443467)
Hi Phoenix,
The V8 guys need spacers to lower the mounts clamping surface back to
stock height (the Widefoot raises "stock type" swaybars up from the road
surface to reduce debris/curb impact risk and lower the leverage acting on
the chassis)...

Thanks,
David Breslau
Widefoot Racing Co.


Mazderati 03-05-14 02:38 PM

Good to know. Thanks.

If we can confirm the mounts a) come with radiator brackets and b) the bushings fit mounts made circa 2002, I'm in for one set of mounts and two sets of bushings.

Chon 03-06-14 04:29 PM

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blmcquig 03-06-14 05:12 PM

man... this is a tough one.
I'm not sure if I would want to wait for a set of these, or go for the super-now/feed mounts.
i know the widefoot mounts are pretty much indestructible, but I've also never heard of anyone breaking one of the super-now/feed style mounts either, and they can be had within a week from japan for $120 shipped.
does the $310 price include shipping at least?

Narfle 03-06-14 05:18 PM

Do the mounts include spacers?

Ceylon 03-07-14 02:53 AM

Look much stronger than the Super Now ones I've got, nice mounts :icon_tup:.

blmcquig 03-08-14 05:33 PM

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Do we have any idea how long until these might be ready?

mannykiller 03-08-14 05:41 PM

Does anyone have a pic of the tri point bar installed with the wide foot mounts?

Mazderati 03-08-14 06:13 PM

Putting my name on the list pending responses from Blackadde/David.

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Standing Z 03-11-14 11:58 AM

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foofuklei 03-13-14 02:02 AM

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foofuklei 03-16-14 07:57 PM

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CrispyRX7 03-16-14 08:20 PM

TriPoint bar w/Billet Widefoot
 
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FWIW a couple images of my TriPoint bar with Widefoot mounts and a RB swaybar brace. I'm an original buyer from Dave from way way back.
I've been running this setup for well over a decade (street and track) It's indestructible.
Regards,
crispy

https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...3&d=1395019056

https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...4&d=1395019056

https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...5&d=1395019056

Enthalpy 03-18-14 12:54 AM

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mannykiller 03-18-14 11:27 AM

How much does it raise the tri-point bar over normal? I'm interested... my tri point bar is by far the lowest point of my car.

CrispyRX7 03-18-14 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by mannykiller (Post 11701166)
How much does it raise the tri-point bar over normal? I'm interested... my tri point bar is by far the lowest point of my car.

It doesn't really raise it much it any. Note I had to flip the bolts over (nut pointing up) on my sway bar ends to get a little extra clearance. you can see the beveled end of the bolt in the pics from bottoming out a couple times.

FWIW,
Crispy

mannykiller 03-18-14 09:00 PM

Thanks crispy!

GS+ 03-18-14 09:42 PM

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86v8rx7 03-18-14 10:13 PM

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rxx4funn 03-19-14 12:37 AM

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6. foofuklei (Mounts Only)
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523884FD3S 03-19-14 12:55 AM

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kevyeewy 03-19-14 01:07 AM

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Narfle 03-19-14 01:57 AM

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2. Chon (Mounts & Bronze Bushings)
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5. Standing Z (Mounts Only - only if they include spacers)
6. foofuklei (Mounts Only)
7. Enthalpy (Mounts Only)
8. GS+ (Billet 6061 Mounts)
9. 86v8rx7 (Mounts & Bronze Bushings)
10. rxx4funn (Mounts only)
11. 523884FD3S ( Mounts and Bronze Bushings)
12. kevyeewy (Mounts only)
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TpCpLaYa 03-19-14 02:12 AM

figured I'd just chime in...I purchased a set WAY back as well, maybe like 9-10 yrs ago and I have run them with the stock sway bar. Absolutely no issues and like Crispy mentioned...these are indestructible especially when you compare them to the joke that is the stock mounts.

Enjoy these, those of you who got on the list.

TpCpLaYa 03-19-14 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by TpCpLaYa (Post 11701789)
figured I'd just chime in...I purchased a set WAY back as well, maybe like 9-10 yrs ago and I have run them with the stock sway bar. Absolutely no issues and like Crispy mentioned...these are indestructible especially when you compare them to the joke that is the stock mounts.

Enjoy these, those of you who got on the list.

only pic i could find. Running energy sway bar bushings and mazdatrix end links

https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1395213360

Blackadde/// 03-19-14 08:20 PM

Looks like we have enough. I will email David and tell him the good news.

blmcquig 03-19-14 10:51 PM


Originally Posted by Narfle (Post 11701777)
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2. Chon (Mounts & Bronze Bushings)
3. blmcquig (mounts and bronze tripoint bushings)
4. Mazderati (1 Set of Mounts, 2 Sets of Bronze Bushings)
5. Standing Z (Mounts Only - only if they include spacers)
6. foofuklei (Mounts Only)
7. Enthalpy (Mounts Only)
8. GS+ (Billet 6061 Mounts)
9. 86v8rx7 (Mounts & Bronze Bushings)
10. rxx4funn (Mounts only)
11. 523884FD3S ( Mounts and Bronze Bushings)
12. kevyeewy (Mounts only)
13. Narfle

according to my girlfriend, I need to buy the bushings as well, so I've updated the list to reflect that.

Narfle 03-20-14 01:19 AM

manlaw

Blackadde/// 03-20-14 08:08 PM

David is willing to open more spots if anyone else wants in. He is setting up his CNC and production will begin at the end of the month. Shipping will be around mid-April. When the time comes we will set something up and I will contact anyone on the list.

Davin 03-20-14 08:15 PM

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5. Standing Z (Mounts Only - only if they include spacers)
6. foofuklei (Mounts Only)
7. Enthalpy (Mounts Only)
8. GS+ (Billet 6061 Mounts)
9. 86v8rx7 (Mounts & Bronze Bushings)
10. rxx4funn (Mounts only)
11. 523884FD3S ( Mounts and Bronze Bushings)
12. kevyeewy (Mounts only)
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foofuklei 03-20-14 08:46 PM

out of curiosity, will the price drop slightly if more sets are ordered?

rxx4funn 03-21-14 02:15 AM

Thanks for the update Blackadde.

Blackadde/// 03-22-14 12:23 AM


Originally Posted by foofuklei (Post 11703023)
out of curiosity, will the price drop slightly if more sets are ordered?


Unfortunately, we're not talking about buying material for a 1-2 year production run; which is where a majority cost saving come into play for machined parts. Tooling, labor, engineering time, etc... all need to be accounted for. If David can find a way to cut costs I'm sure he would, but if you do some research the price for these have not increased dramatically over the past 2-3 years. I'm not sure David knows what inflation is. haha j/k I'll keep you all posted if things change.


Originally Posted by rxx4funn (Post 11703180)
Thanks for the update Blackadde.

I've been waiting for these for at least a year. Glad the community still wants these made because they are badass!

Mazderati 03-22-14 09:54 AM

Blackadde - Would you have David confirm the current Tri Point bushing mount will work on older sway bar mounts? I just want to make sure the design hasn't changed. Can you also confirm the radiator bracket is included with the current sway bar mounts? Thanks.

RCCAZ 1 03-22-14 06:11 PM

So, I'm running the Tri-Point bar on mainly a street application. I wouldn't need the bronze bushings if going to this mount if a majority of my driving is for spirited street driving, correct? What's the main benefit of the bronze bushing anyway? My stock mounts still look fine, but I take it these have a history of bending and breaking? Thx!!

Mazderati 03-23-14 10:53 AM

I believe this is how it goes. Someone correct me if wrong.

Widefoot sway bar mount + Tri Point sway bar + Tri Point poly bushing = OK
Widefoot sway bar mount + Tri Point sway bar + Widefoot bronze bushing = OK
Widefoot sway bar mount + Tri Point sway bar + Tri Point bronze bushing = Not OK

Bronze bushings eliminate the flex allowed by poly bushings.

mannykiller 03-23-14 12:22 PM

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Ok i'm a bit un-clear. I'm a visual person. But I got my Tri-point bar used... so this is what I have. Can anyone clarifiy exactly what I have and If I would benefit from the widefoot mounts?

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So either i'm missing the mount entirely and a certain well known seller here on the forum failed to mention he wasn't including them (plus i'm an idiot for not realizing..) or these are aftermarket mounts? Seems like the wide-foot mounts set onto the bottom of the frame to form a solid mount straight down to the bar correct? So would I even need the extended mounts from the sub frame?

Check it out
Attachment 648712

Copeland 03-23-14 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by mannykiller (Post 11704491)
Ok i'm a bit un-clear. I'm a visual person. But I got my Tri-point bar used... so this is what I have. Can anyone clarifiy exactly what I have and If I would benefit from the widefoot mounts?

http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps360a7e6c.jpg

So either i'm missing the mount entirely and a certain well known seller here on the forum failed to mention he wasn't including them (plus i'm an idiot for not realizing..) or these are aftermarket mounts? Seems like the wide-foot mounts set onto the bottom of the frame to form a solid mount straight down to the bar correct? So would I even need the extended mounts from the sub frame?

Check it out
http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps54574e0c.jpg

You're definitely missing sway bar mounts, stock or otherwise.

mannykiller 03-23-14 12:55 PM

^The stock mounts were wayyy to short..and I figured they were just replaced by the long extension from the engine sub-frame. Car felt good the 3 weeks it was running...

Herblenny 03-23-14 01:33 PM

Hmm.. I have a set but I might get another for my other FD.. Please add me to the list.

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2. Chon (Mounts & Bronze Bushings)
3. blmcquig (mounts and bronze tripoint bushings)
4. Mazderati (1 Set of Mounts, 2 Sets of Bronze Bushings)
5. Standing Z (Mounts Only - only if they include spacers)
6. foofuklei (Mounts Only)
7. Enthalpy (Mounts Only)
8. GS+ (Billet 6061 Mounts)
9. 86v8rx7 (Mounts & Bronze Bushings)
10. rxx4funn (Mounts only)
11. 523884FD3S ( Mounts and Bronze Bushings)
12. kevyeewy (Mounts only)
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RCCAZ 1 03-23-14 02:42 PM

Same here. I'm in!!!

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4. Mazderati (1 Set of Mounts, 2 Sets of Bronze Bushings)
5. Standing Z (Mounts Only - only if they include spacers)
6. foofuklei (Mounts Only)
7. Enthalpy (Mounts Only)
8. GS+ (Billet 6061 Mounts)
9. 86v8rx7 (Mounts & Bronze Bushings)
10. rxx4funn (Mounts only)
11. 523884FD3S ( Mounts and Bronze Bushings)
12. kevyeewy (Mounts only)
13. Narfle
14. Davin [mounts and bronze bushings]
15. Herblenny (mounts only)
16. RCCAZ 1 (mounts only)

CrispyRX7 03-23-14 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by Copeland (Post 11704504)
You're definitely missing sway bar mounts, stock or otherwise.

What you have there are the super primo rock hard zero flex bronze bushings and optional brace. But you still need the swaybar bracket. That which you are missing my friend.
60-1001 - 93'-95' Mazda RX-7 Tri-Point Engineering Front Modular Anti-Sw
Has some more info. And when in doubt call the manufacturer.
FWIW it probably only "feels" pretty good when you have been driving it because those braces are probably flexing like crazy.
Regards,
Crispy


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