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SakeBomb Garage 04-27-19 07:55 PM

GB: SakeBomb Garage - Forged RZ+ Wheels (17x9.5 +45)
 
SakeBomb Garage is proud to introduce our re-worked variant of the ultra-rare RZ wheel, featured only on the Special Edition 2001 RZ. To our knowledge, only 250 of this Special Edition RZ's were produced (fewer produced than even the Spirit R!).

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We chose to start with the limited edition RZ wheel as a basis for our race-designed wheel due to the inherent strength characteristics of the design, as well period correct aesthetics. Being one of our favorite wheel designs here at the shop, we started with an original RZ BBS wheel from Japan to 3D scan, then optimize in CAD for increased strength and reduced weight due to the inherent strength benefits of a forged wheel (Stronger and Lighter!). We designed the spoke architecture from the ground up to be compatible with both all of our track-ready brake kits (AP Competition kit and Wilwood Track Day kit), with a wheel that is durable enough for harshest track use. We then increased width to 9.5 inches (+45) for a 255 square tire setup, and added knurled bead seats for track use! The end result we named the RZ+ !


Wheel Specs:
  • 17x9.5 +45 5x114.3
  • Estimated weight: 17.86 lbs, 8.1kg
  • Hubcentric @ 67.1mm for a direct fit on the FD (no hubcentric rings required)
  • Load Rated and strength optimized specifically for the FD
  • Knurled Bead Seat to prevent tire slippage under hard braking and acceleration
  • Optional Forged RZ+ Centercap
  • Designed to seamlessly fit all 17" compatible SBG BBK's! (Wilwood and AP) - no guesswork or fitment templates required!
  • Gunmetal or HyperSilver Colors - centercaps color matched



    ETA for first batch to ship - estimated late June! Limited quantity available. Payment in full via pre-order will be required to hold your spot. Very limited spaces available.


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    Knurled Anti-Slip Bead Seat!


    Pricing: $2195 pre-order group buy pricing - limited qty. available ($2465+ standard). Optional forged RZ+ centercaps.
    CLICK HERE TO PRE-ORDER: https://www.sakebombgarage.com/rz-fo...2-e392d7517287

    Additional Coupons:
    Every pre-order for wheels comes with a complimentary $125 off gift certificate towards a SBG Wilwood Track Day Brake kit OR $250 off gift certificate towards a SBG AP Competition BBK - (*valid for 30 days after purchase, can not be combined with additional coupons). Please email us after purchase for coupon Info@SakeBombGarage.com



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SakeBomb Garage 04-27-19 08:00 PM

Some pictures of the development process:
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(Original BBS RZ wheel)

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Scanning an original RZ wheel!

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First scans...

Sideo 04-27-19 09:35 PM

Wow now that is next level!!

I have never had much luck scanning with handheld scanners (not attached to an articulating arm) what tool is that and what software are you guys running if you don't mind? I love all these new products. I am going to have to start selling a lot more gas pedals...

Keep up the great work!
Matt

JhnRx7 04-28-19 05:32 AM

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cabaynes 04-28-19 10:28 AM

Sign me up! :bowdown:

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RockStim7 04-28-19 10:59 AM

Good god, where was this last year?

Truly awesome work

Ruler_Mark 04-28-19 11:29 AM

What company is doing the manufacturing? Will these carry any certifications?

HiWire 04-28-19 11:39 AM

Beautiful work. Is the gunmetal finish the same color as on the original RZ wheels?

MOBEONER 04-28-19 12:43 PM

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SakeBomb Garage 04-28-19 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by HiWire (Post 12344257)
Beautiful work. Is the gunmetal finish the same color as on the original RZ wheels?

As close as possible yes :)

Little known fact (and even less made than the Gunmetal RZ wheel...) there was a silver version offered in 2001 *only* as an upgrade for RS FD's wheels during purchase. We're doing our best to replicate the even-less-common silver wheel finish as well :)

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SakeBomb Garage 04-28-19 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by Ruler_Mark (Post 12344255)
What company is doing the manufacturing? Will these carry any certifications?

We're contractually obligated to keep the design/manufacturing company private, but suffice to say they are a VERY PROMINENT forged wheel manufacturer, manufacturing proven track wheels. No cost to quality / engineering / machining was spared here ;)

These wheels were designed from the ground up, using FEA analysis to ensure structural integrity for race use with load ratings specifically for the FD RX7. These wheels are being manufactured to DOT / SAE and JWL / VIA standards, as well as being submitted for impact testing, and drum force durability testing. With the manufacturer we are working with, we're in VERY good hands. We would not stand behind this wheel with any less confidence in the state of the art engineering and manufacturing processes being used!

Fritz Flynn 04-28-19 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by SakeBomb Garage (Post 12344295)
We're contractually obligated to keep the design/manufacturing company private, but suffice to say they are a VERY PROMINENT forged wheel manufacturer, manufacturing proven track wheels. No cost to quality / engineering / machining was spared here ;)

These wheels were designed from the ground up, using FEA analysis to ensure structural integrity for race use with load ratings specifically for the FD RX7. These wheels are being manufactured to DOT / SAE and JWL / VIA standards, as well as being submitted for impact testing, and drum force durability testing. With the manufacturer we are working with, we're in VERY good hands. We would not stand behind this wheel with any less confidence in the state of the art engineering and manufacturing processes being used!


Fingers crossed that it's volk/rays LOL

jsemerica 04-28-19 07:18 PM

Very cool

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Ceylon 04-29-19 06:29 AM

Very cool idea, if I didn't have SR rims I'd be down for a set. Are there any options for a shadow chrome type of finish?

There were 325 late RZ's with the gun metal finish. Very hard to put a number on the optional RS wheels as it was not recorded with the VIN's.

HiWire 04-29-19 09:51 AM

I did a little research on the Special Edition RZ – were they a 2000 model year car? I think they were produced from October 2000, which is almost heading into the 2001 model year (I think the Japanese record model years differently).

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MattGold 04-29-19 03:35 PM

These are SO awesome. One of my favorite wheels for stock bodied cars BY FAR!

Narfle 04-29-19 05:37 PM

Recommended to roll fenders with this setup, or will these clear with just an alignment? Cool stuff.

Ceylon 04-30-19 02:22 AM


Originally Posted by HiWire (Post 12344403)
I did a little research on the Special Edition RZ – were they a 2000 model year car? I think they were produced from October 2000, which is almost heading into the 2001 model year (I think the Japanese record model years differently).

They made 175 in 2000 and 150 in 2001 :icon_tup:.

Neo 04-30-19 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by Narfle (Post 12344502)
Recommended to roll fenders with this setup, or will these clear with just an alignment? Cool stuff.

I think you're alright with the width and the offset. The offset is what throws everyone off whenever they get wheels. Apparently it's cool to have the rubber sit exactly aligned with the metal border around the wheel well. They completely forget the fact the vehicle needs to be used. So you go over a bump or you want to apply full steering lock, and you blow up the fenders.
A 45+ offset is well within range of the stock fenders.

9.5inch width running 255 rubber on the other hand... that's a bit stretched.

Sakebomb is fantastic for bringing around great products for our vehicle!

FourtyOunce 04-30-19 08:49 AM

Great work SBG. Is there any chance you would consider doing a 17x10 or 17x10.5?

AE_Racer 04-30-19 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by Neo (Post 12344592)
9.5inch width running 255 rubber on the other hand... that's a bit stretched.

Varies depending on the tire. Some of the UHP Summers are under 9" tread width while others are closer to 9.5". It can also be argued that a small stretch is beneficial.

Mazderati 04-30-19 09:16 AM

What is the country of origin? Warranty?

fendamonky 04-30-19 09:38 AM

Hmm, I'm definitely interested in this! When does the group buy close? I'll be dragging my car to a shop in Cali around June timeframe so I need to save my pennies for that bill right now.. I may be able to work these into that build though.

_Ravi__ 04-30-19 10:08 AM

Quick question. Without the optional colored center caps, it comes with none I imagine?

ptrhahn 04-30-19 10:12 AM

Very cool, ambitious project! Lemme know if you ever decide to develop up-sized versions. I would totally dig an 18x10/18x11" combo that looked like factory wheels. Though I guess the rest of the car isn't fooling anyone anymore.

Nakd n Fearless 04-30-19 10:25 AM

I really like the OEM stance and sizing. 17x9.5 squared is perfect for a daily drive "Singer FD" type build. I'm curious if the fenders need to be rolled...

My question is:
Do the 93-95 stock Mazda/Efini center caps fit?

TomU 04-30-19 11:46 AM

FWIW, don't think fenders need to be rolled with 255s. That's what i run (17x9.5 +42 with 255 RE 11s). I rolled the fenders thinking it'd need it, but there's plenty of room. I do have a little camber, but dont recall the exact setup

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GoodfellaFD3S 04-30-19 03:25 PM

I've known about this project for some time (and had some small input) and am super stoked for these bad boys :D

Put me down for a set for my 1184 mile FD, because the MS-01S need a break :bubrub: :lol:

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SakeBomb Garage 04-30-19 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by fendamonky (Post 12344607)
Hmm, I'm definitely interested in this! When does the group buy close? I'll be dragging my car to a shop in Cali around June timeframe so I need to save my pennies for that bill right now.. I may be able to work these into that build though.

We'll have this running for a bit, but with the current interest and orders coming in on the site we'll run out of inventory before anything else.

SakeBomb Garage 04-30-19 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S (Post 12344686)
I've known about this project for some time (and had some small input) and am super stoked for these bad boys :D

Put me down for a set for my 1184 mile FD, because the MS-01S need a break :bubrub: :lol:


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You're gonna put these on the 1000 mile FD?? We'd be HONORED! :party: We can consider additional colors for a second run, but we need some good numbers to do it. It's 15 sets MIN per color. If there's interest / numbers we can make additional colors happen (bronze and satin black were the two we were considering as well). But the current focus is on the meat and potatoes, Gunmetal and Silver.

We really appreciate all of the positive feedback you guys... we are only able to do projects like this because of the awesome FD community that we're proud to be a part of. Cheers everyone! Long live the FD!


SakeBomb Garage 04-30-19 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by Nakd n Fearless (Post 12344619)
I really like the OEM stance and sizing. 17x9.5 squared is perfect for a daily drive "Singer FD" type build. I'm curious if the fenders need to be rolled...

My question is:
Do the 93-95 stock Mazda/Efini center caps fit?

Singer FD... I love it!

SakeBomb Garage 04-30-19 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by FourtyOunce (Post 12344598)
Great work SBG. Is there any chance you would consider doing a 17x10 or 17x10.5?

wider 17's no... there's not really any good tire selection over 255. 18's possible in the future, depending on how well this wheel goes. If this wheel does well, we can consider future wheels :) so please please everyone tell your FD friends!

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Neo 04-30-19 11:10 PM


Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S (Post 12344686)
I've known about this project for some time (and had some small input) and am super stoked for these bad boys :D

Put me down for a set for my 1184 mile FD, because the MS-01S need a break :bubrub: :lol:


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...4efcd57a70.jpg

Youve got MS-01’s!!! They are glorious! What are the specs?

if Sakebomb make a future wheel like this, I would seriously consider upgrading my 99spec wheels! 😉

fendamonky 05-01-19 04:49 AM


Originally Posted by SakeBomb Garage (Post 12344687)
We'll have this running for a bit, but with the current interest and orders coming in on the site we'll run out of inventory before anything else.

Hmmm... I *do* get three paychecks this month.. :suspect:

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Mcw0ng 05-02-19 08:26 PM

This is pretty friggin awesome. Any anticipated fitment issues on stock suspension?

FC3S 05-03-19 12:53 AM

What is the suggested tire size both front and rear for the rims? Which color would go better with yellow color RX7?

SakeBomb Garage 05-03-19 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by Mcw0ng (Post 12345156)
This is pretty friggin awesome. Any anticipated fitment issues on stock suspension?

Zero :) Even with our most agressive FPSpec Long Stroke Ohlins DFV's with helper springs

SakeBomb Garage 05-03-19 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by FC3S (Post 12345180)
What is the suggested tire size both front and rear for the rims? Which color would go better with yellow color RX7?

255/40-17 all around

chrisaleggett 05-04-19 04:38 PM

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SakeBomb Garage 05-04-19 09:46 PM

Thanks chrisaleggett! You're not too far up in Napa! Swing by the shop if you're ever in Fremont. Cheers buddy!

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iantboyd 05-06-19 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by SakeBomb Garage (Post 12344295)
We're contractually obligated to keep the design/manufacturing company private, but suffice to say they are a VERY PROMINENT forged wheel manufacturer, manufacturing proven track wheels. No cost to quality / engineering / machining was spared here ;)

These wheels were designed from the ground up, using FEA analysis to ensure structural integrity for race use with load ratings specifically for the FD RX7. These wheels are being manufactured to DOT / SAE and JWL / VIA standards, as well as being submitted for impact testing, and drum force durability testing. With the manufacturer we are working with, we're in VERY good hands. We would not stand behind this wheel with any less confidence in the state of the art engineering and manufacturing processes being used!

quick question, is the entire wheel forged(Face and Barrel)? or just the barrel? (IE flow forging or whatever people want to call it)

SakeBomb Garage 05-06-19 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by iantboyd (Post 12345690)
quick question, is the entire wheel forged(Face and Barrel)? or just the barrel? (IE flow forging or whatever people want to call it)

It's a true one piece wheel... all forged :) Not a welded face

Billy7 05-07-19 12:06 PM

Same question: Do the OEM/Efini center caps fit these wheels?

Also, can I run 275/40 rear on stock body without any rubbing?

jsemerica 05-07-19 12:40 PM

Updated mine

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Narfle 05-07-19 06:10 PM

It'd be nice to ditch the scripts on the caps and rim too. One thing that makes the RZ wheel so nice is how clean and uncluttered it is. If you want to keep the branding you could go with stickers, instead.


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