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SakeBomb Garage 07-14-12 05:56 PM

GB#4 INTEREST thread - FD Bi-Xenon HID's - SBG
 
This is a GB INTEREST thread for our Bi-Xenon Projector Headlights.
http://www.sakebombgarage.com/shop/1...headlights.jpg

We're completely out of components/headlights and will need to reorder a large batch to produce more. We've also been unbelievably swamped with other parts that we're working on for the FD so headlights have taken a back burner as they simply take too much of our time to hand build. That said, I've talked it over with Dan and agreed to set some time aside from concurrent projects to do one more build on the lights.

If you are interested in purchasing a set of lights please add your name to the list. INTEREST does not mean "yeah, those look great" interest means "yes I would like a set, I can actually submit a payment in a reasonable time frame, and can come up with at least half for a deposit, and the remainder by the end of the group buy" . We've had a lot of tire-kickers recently for FD parts (I'm not sure why) and have had a hard time getting accurate head counts for purchasing parts. So please be thoughtful when adding your name to the list.


INFO:


We all know that the stock headlights on the Rx-7 are vastly inadequate for night driving. With the FD being very capable of high speeds, the possibility of missing something on the side of the road, up ahead, or around a corner is dangerous scenario. We finally decided to fix this problem once and for all. SakeBomb Garage is pleased to knock your socks off with the first and only true 'pop-up' Bi-Xenon Projector HID kit for the FD.


FD owners: Welcome to the 21st Century.

Highlights:
  • New headlight housings, with bi-xenon (high/low) projectors
  • Optically clear projector lenses
  • New (OEM) Philips 4300K bulbs (5000k Morimoto with 50w ballast option)
  • High quality 35w weatherproofed ballast (50w ballasts also available)
  • Plug and play wiring harness specifically for the FD

We’re confident that this is currently the best performing lighting kit available for the FD, from here to Japan… bar none! This setup is the standard against which other lights are currently judged. Yes, they're that good. These lights ARE the gold standard, and we've yet to see a higher performing lighting setup. For a car capable of speeds in excess of 160mph and cornering abilities that put most other cars to shame, you ought to be able to see where you are going. We built these lights not only for an aesthetic benefit, but literally as a safety item to prevent a potential accident. Yes they are expensive, but so is your car ;) and they have personally saved me from a few accidents (and tickets) over the years :nod: !






PRICE ($100 off retail):
$875 - 35w Ballasts and Philips OEM 4300k Bulbs
$895 - 50w Ballasts and Aftermarket 5000K Bulbs (~30% brighter)
-shipping is included in the price (international/Hawaii/Alaska/etc will require additional shipping fees)


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http://www.sakebombgarage.com/shop/1...headlights.jpg


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Nataphen 07-14-12 08:01 PM

1. Nataphen - LHD - 50W

dimitris 20b 07-15-12 03:33 PM

dimitris 20b LHD 35W

Flyweight 07-16-12 10:21 PM

Flyweight LHD 50W

Nataphen 07-17-12 08:18 AM

1. Nataphen - LHD - 50W
2. dimitris 20b - LHD - 35W
3. Flyweight - LHD - 50W

rino 07-17-12 12:23 PM

i'll bite this time around

1. Nataphen - LHD - 50W
2. dimitris 20b - LHD - 35W
3. Flyweight - LHD - 50W
4. rino - LHD - 50W

86v8rx7 07-17-12 08:59 PM

1. Nataphen - LHD - 50W
2. dimitris 20b - LHD - 35W
3. Flyweight - LHD - 50W
4. rino - LHD - 50W
5. 86v8rx7 - LHD - 35W

SpAm@FC 07-18-12 07:12 AM

1. Nataphen - LHD - 50W
2. dimitris 20b - LHD - 35W
3. Flyweight - LHD - 50W
4. rino - LHD - 50W
5. 86v8rx7 - LHD - 35W
6. SpAm@FC - LHD country, RHD car - 35W

My car is RHD, but I'm driving it on LHD roads. I don't think that there is no difference between LHD and RHD except the light pattern, right?

SakeBomb Garage 07-18-12 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by SpAm@FC (Post 11160737)
1. Nataphen - LHD - 50W
2. dimitris 20b - LHD - 35W
3. Flyweight - LHD - 50W
4. rino - LHD - 50W
5. 86v8rx7 - LHD - 35W
6. SpAm@FC - LHD country, RHD car - 35W

My car is RHD, but I'm driving it on LHD roads. I don't think that there is no difference between LHD and RHD except the light pattern, right?

correct :icon_tup: you'd use lhd lights but they are identical aside from the beam pattern itself which is reversed for RHD roads.

SakeBomb Garage 07-18-12 01:40 PM

Optional 50W Ballasts

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/w.../IMG_96411.jpg

We are now offering the option of a 50w ballast (and accompanying 5000k bulb) instead of the OEM-spec 35w ballasts. There are pros and cons to using 50w ballasts, but we'll do our best to explain the differences below.

Xenon bulbs are manufactured to run at 35 watts, however they can be over-driven to produce more light than would normally be available at a lower wattage. Typically one will find an additional 30% increase in total light, however this extra light does come at a cost. The additional wattage does reduce the lifespan of the bulbs somewhat. The color range of the bulbs is shifted LOWER (more yellow) with increased wattage (however the color temp can be shifted back up to normal (around 4300k) by using "5000K bulbs"), which is why we will supply this kit with 5000 Kelvin bulbs. - At the end of the day, yes, the total light output is increased, but it does not change the beam pattern with which it is distributed, so you simply end up with a BRIGHTER light, not wider or longer throw. Is this a good thing? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. In the city where streets are well lit, the extra light from the 50w ballasts is definitely welcome, but on very dimly lit back-roads the contrast difference between foreground and background could feel overwhelming to some, and reflector signs will appear very reflective. It is a personal choice whether this increased light output is right for you, but if in doubt remember that the OEM standard is 35w.

RotorMotor 07-18-12 01:44 PM

https://www.rx7club.com/group-buy-pr.../#post10792208

^Some more general information on HID's, more information/reviews from previous customers about the lights themselves, and a link to the instalation guide as well

Please PM or post any questions you might have. :nod:

Thanks, Heath

rino 07-20-12 06:28 PM

Just changed my choice from 50W to 35W after reading your explanation.

1. Nataphen - LHD - 50W
2. dimitris 20b - LHD - 35W
3. Flyweight - LHD - 50W
4. rino - LHD - 35W
5. 86v8rx7 - LHD - 35W
6. SpAm@FC - LHD country, RHD car - 35W

Wankel1der 07-21-12 10:01 AM

1. Nataphen - LHD - 50W
2. dimitris 20b - LHD - 35W
3. Flyweight - LHD - 50W
4. rino - LHD - 35W
5. 86v8rx7 - LHD - 35W
6. SpAm@FC - LHD country, RHD car - 35W
7. Wankel1der - LHS - 50W

Wankel1der 07-21-12 10:02 AM

^ lhd*

SakeBomb Garage 07-21-12 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by rino (Post 11163577)
Just changed my choice from 50W to 35W after reading your explanation.

Yeah the cliff notes would be: 50w is 30% more light intensity but does not change width or throw... it's just more light.

City driving with higher levels of ambient lighting I would recommend the additional light from the 50w.

Backroads driving I would recommend the 35w OEM intensity lighting (as the extra light may be too much for back roads if your eyes are sensitive).

That said, I've run both types in both scenarios and at the end of the day you've still got absolutely amazing lighting in either scenario. It all comes down to personal preference, and the sensitivity of your eyes and night vision. :)

-Heath

Coolant_Leak 07-21-12 02:41 PM

1. Nataphen - LHD - 50W
2. dimitris 20b - LHD - 35W
3. Flyweight - LHD - 50W
4. rino - LHD - 35W
5. 86v8rx7 - LHD - 35W
6. SpAm@FC - LHD country, RHD car - 35W
7. Wankel1der - LHD - 50W
8. Coolant_Leak - LHD - 50W

TougeSpirit 07-26-12 06:32 PM

1. Nataphen - LHD - 50W
2. dimitris 20b - LHD - 35W
3. Flyweight - LHD - 50W
4. rino - LHD - 35W
5. 86v8rx7 - LHD - 35W
6. SpAm@FC - LHD country, RHD car - 35W
7. Wankel1der - LHD - 50W
8. Coolant_Leak - LHD - 50W
9. P0ONJU - LHD- 35W

rino 07-31-12 01:03 PM

bump. let's get more people signed up. I can't see anything with my yellow headlights.

TougeSpirit 07-31-12 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by rino (Post 11175030)
bump. let's get more people signed up. I can't see anything with my yellow headlights.

+1 to one of, if not the best aftermarket headlight kits ever made for the fd.

poop2003 07-31-12 06:10 PM

how much is shipping to Brisbane, Australia? postcode 4118.
thanks!

Lock & Load 07-31-12 06:45 PM

What are the numbers needed by you before this group buy goes ahead ?

Time frame between order and supply ?

Cost of shipping to Australia Gold coast Queensland 4226 ?



Cheers
Michael

RotorMotor 08-01-12 03:13 PM

Last I checked the shipping to Australia was around $80-90 depending on location.

For quantity signed up we need roughly 10-15 people (depending on whether everyone is submitting 1/2 deposits or payment in full) to get this thing started. I'd say 1-2 months to start shipping as we've got to place a reorder for custom components so there may be some lag time there.

-Heath

johnny5x 08-02-12 06:39 AM

Maybe a dumb question but if going with the 50w ballast, can you still just simply put the OEM 4300k bulbs in if you find that the light from the 50w 5000k combination is too much?

TougeSpirit 08-02-12 01:28 PM

The ballast controls the amount of wattage the bulb will recieve, things like 4300k and 6800k is just a measurement of the light spectrum produced, with very low k like 2800 being red, 4000ish white and 6000k would be more of a blue if I remember correctly, simply put. The 35w bulbs are being amped up by 15w watts, creating a brighter to the eye light. Feel free to correct or delete this post if I am wrong :)

johnny5x 08-03-12 06:08 AM

When does this group buy end?

Nataphen 08-03-12 07:52 AM

When it's time to pay, will there be a link posted here with the GB price and deposit option like with the big brake kit?

RotorMotor 08-03-12 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by P0ONJU (Post 11177214)
The ballast controls the amount of wattage the bulb will recieve, things like 4300k and 6800k is just a measurement of the light spectrum produced, with very low k like 2800 being red, 4000ish white and 6000k would be more of a blue if I remember correctly, simply put. The 35w bulbs are being amped up by 15w watts, creating a brighter to the eye light. Feel free to correct or delete this post if I am wrong :)

This post is very much correct and thank you for posting :icon_tup: . The only thing I'll add is that overdriving the bulbs shifts the color to a lower color spectrum (more yellow) so to compensate for that color shift you can run higher K (bluer) bulbs to correct for the color shift. At the end of the day you get 30% more light intensity from the higher wattage ballasts.

rino 08-03-12 08:34 PM

I almost want to buy the 10th spot if it gets the group buy going :)

RotorMotor 08-03-12 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by Nataphen (Post 11177968)
When it's time to pay, will there be a link posted here with the GB price and deposit option like with the big brake kit?

Yes :)



Originally Posted by johnny5x (Post 11176910)
Maybe a dumb question but if going with the 50w ballast, can you still just simply put the OEM 4300k bulbs in if you find that the light from the 50w 5000k combination is too much?

bulb color temp doesn't significantly affect light intensity... ballast wattage does. If you're on the fence go for the OEM standard 35w ballasts. If you want more light or spend alot of time driving in the city you might consider the 50w.



Originally Posted by johnny5x (Post 11177933)
When does this group buy end?

one month after it starts, though it hasn't started yet... this is just an interest thread to see if there is enough interest in putting these into production again.

TougeSpirit 08-05-12 05:18 PM

[QUOTE=RotorMotor;11178546
one month after it starts, though it hasn't started yet... this is just an interest thread to see if there is enough interest in putting these into production again.[/QUOTE]

Pretty please?

C'mon guys, this may be one of the last chances to own THE BEST hid kit available - at a discount ;)

Nataphen 08-05-12 05:30 PM

I only wish I could've gotten the SBG brake kit too, but I have to jump on this opportunity since it may be the last. I'll just have to take that extra $400 hit on the brake kit later. :(

t_warne 08-05-12 06:09 PM

1. Nataphen - LHD - 50W
2. dimitris 20b - LHD - 35W
3. Flyweight - LHD - 50W
4. rino - LHD - 35W
5. 86v8rx7 - LHD - 35W
6. SpAm@FC - LHD country, RHD car - 35W
7. Wankel1der - LHD - 50W
8. Coolant_Leak - LHD - 50W
9. P0ONJU - LHD- 35W
10! T_Warne -lhd -35w


OK. Count me in! I'm ready to pay now to get this ball rolling.

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rino 08-08-12 03:03 AM

Let's get this rolling! :)

Coolant_Leak 08-08-12 07:12 PM

Money's burning a hole in my secret FD stash the gf can't find. Any updates?

SakeBomb Garage 08-10-12 09:26 PM

Sorry we're lagging, we're doing all sorts of projects at the same time but we'll get an official GB going shortly. Thanks for your patneice, we've got a ton on our plate at the moment with new parts development ;)

rino 08-14-12 03:34 PM

This should take priority over other group buys. People's lives are at stake here :)

SakeBomb Garage 08-14-12 07:56 PM

^ I agree, though at the moment we're trying to finish up "stopping" and "putting out fires" as well :D We'll try to have something up by the end of the week to begin collecting payments.
-Heath

tek_88 08-15-12 11:02 PM

I would like to get in on this GB too...add me in for a set of 35w LHD:nod:

Nataphen 08-16-12 04:47 PM

Please pull me off the list. I know I'm the one that sort of begged for this, but my home situation has taken a nasty turn in the last few weeks. The FD is the least of my worries right now, and I may even be selling it soon.

rino 08-16-12 05:18 PM

No worries, we still have our 10th man. Take care of home business first.

Nataphen 08-16-12 06:57 PM

Thanks.

SakeBomb Garage 08-16-12 11:42 PM


Originally Posted by Nataphen (Post 11190952)
Please pull me off the list. I know I'm the one that sort of begged for this, but my home situation has taken a nasty turn in the last few weeks. The FD is the least of my worries right now, and I may even be selling it soon.

Yeah no worries, family and living comes before lighting ;)

-Dan

tofu 08-17-12 01:22 AM

I'm down for 35w

Coolant_Leak 08-19-12 07:08 PM

Updated your list.

1. dimitris 20b - LHD - 35W
2. Flyweight - LHD - 50W
3. rino - LHD - 35W
4. 86v8rx7 - LHD - 35W
5. SpAm@FC - LHD country, RHD car - 35W
6. Wankel1der - LHD - 50W
7. Coolant_Leak - LHD - 50W
8. P0ONJU - LHD- 35W
9. T_Warne -lhd -35w
10. tek_88- 35w LHD
11. tofu - ?HD- 35w

RotorMotor 08-28-12 06:36 PM

WE'RE LIVE

Bi-Xenon HID Projector Headlights (Group Buy) - SakeBomb Garage

I'll see if I can get a mod to elevate this from "GB Interest" to official GB... otherwise I'll post a new official GB thread and move the list over there. I'll PM everyone and post a link if that happens, but the link above (on our website) is where to go to process your payment.

*Once you submit payment please mark yourself as "paid" on the GB list:
ex. SBGarage - LHD - 50w - PAID
1. dimitris 20b - LHD - 35W
2. Flyweight - LHD - 50W
3. rino - LHD - 35W
4. 86v8rx7 - LHD - 35W
5. SpAm@FC - LHD country, RHD car - 35W
6. Wankel1der - LHD - 50W
7. Coolant_Leak - LHD - 50W
8. P0ONJU - LHD- 35W
9. T_Warne -lhd -35w
10. tek_88- 35w LHD
11. tofu - ?HD- 35w

rino 08-28-12 06:53 PM

I just followed the link. It requires full payment and charges additional for shipping. In the original post, shipping is included. Is full payment optional? I would like to leave a deposit now and pay the rest when they're ready to ship. Please advise.

:)

tek_88 08-28-12 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by rino (Post 11203593)
I just followed the link. It requires full payment and charges additional for shipping. In the original post, shipping is included. Is full payment optional? I would like to leave a deposit now and pay the rest when they're ready to ship. Please advise.

:)

Same here

Coolant_Leak 08-28-12 06:55 PM

^^ I am on the same boat. I don't mind paying full now--I just want my lights ASAP. But the original post says "Shipping included".

Let me know what to do.

Thanks.

rino 08-28-12 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by Coolant_Leak (Post 11203599)
^^ I am on the same boat. I don't mind paying full now--I just want my lights ASAP. But the original post says "Shipping included".

Let me know what to do.

Thanks.

I don't think anyone is getting their lights for a while. If we can get them in 1-2 weeks i'll pay in full now too. :)

Coolant_Leak 08-28-12 07:00 PM

Also is tax included in price?

Website shows tax included (tax would be ~$67 @7.5%) so if its either or -- I'd rather pay shipping -- Unless they both should be included.


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