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garage alpha 09-28-20 11:48 AM

GarageAlpha x DemiurgeFD Titanium 'Flying M' Rotor Key
 
This is a project who's roots can be traced right here in the forums over three years ago. It started as a thought experiment to re-imagine a logo for the FD3S incorporating the rotor shape and has now spawned into a new titanium key as well as a couple other projects slated to compliment the key.


https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/00...g?v=1601071901
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/00...g?v=1601071901
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/00...g?v=1601071901
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/00...g?v=1601071901
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/00...g?v=1601071901


The GarageAlpha x DemiurgeFD Titanium 'Flying M' FD3S Rotor Key was designed by @demiurgefd (on IG) who goes by @LO7 here on the forums. The key incorporates the rotor shape along with the 'Flying M' wings to pay homage to the modern Mazda logo. We were tapped to bring this concept to life using our experience in manufacturing and specifically, titanium.

The key itself is CNCd out of GR2 titanium and is a perfect fit to all 1992-2002 Mazda RX-7s. All pre-orders will also include the 'new style' RX-7 logo key chain, cut from carbon fiber as an added bonus.

If anyone is interested, we have pre-orders open NOW with delivery expected in the next 30 days (we're already in production). :icon_tup:


Mazda RX-7 [FD3S] GarageAlpha x DemiurgeFD Titanium 'Flying M' Rotor Key

Project88Turbo 09-28-20 03:20 PM

Wow that's awesome! I can't get one myself, but damn that is sweet. Will you be offering the carbon Keychain separately?

Vince

ZE Power MX6 09-28-20 04:32 PM

That is one sweet looking key!

Natey 09-28-20 06:46 PM

Linky no workie for me.

Nice looking key though!

Project88Turbo 09-28-20 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by Natey (Post 12436750)
Linky no workie for me.

Nice looking key though!

add www to the address

Nakd n Fearless 09-28-20 09:23 PM

The mark of a true FD enthusiast is a working door lock light.
Your products are so good, you're gonna make the japanese jealous of the US aftermarket.
I'm looking forward to the next development in this style.

garage alpha 09-29-20 11:17 AM

UPDATED THE LINK! :uh:

garage alpha 09-29-20 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by Project88Turbo (Post 12436724)
Wow that's awesome! I can't get one myself, but damn that is sweet. Will you be offering the carbon Keychain separately?

Vince

Yes! We should have key chains available to order separately! :icon_tup:


Originally Posted by ZE Power MX6 (Post 12436734)
That is one sweet looking key!

:worship:


Originally Posted by Natey (Post 12436750)
Linky no workie for me.

Nice looking key though!

UPDATED!

https://garagealpha.com/collections/mazda-rx-7-fd3s/products/mazda-rx-7-fd3s-garagealpha-x-demiurgefd-titanium-flying-m-fd3s-rotor-key


Originally Posted by Project88Turbo (Post 12436767)
add www to the address

:icon_tup:


Originally Posted by Nakd n Fearless (Post 12436777)
The mark of a true FD enthusiast is a working door lock light.
Your products are so good, you're gonna make the japanese jealous of the US aftermarket.
I'm looking forward to the next development in this style.

Thanks so much! Everything we make is stuff WE want for our own vehicles - so yes - everything is enthusiast driven. :)

Natey 09-29-20 11:36 AM

Payment sent. Thanks! :icon_tup:

Natey 11-11-20 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by Natey (Post 12436853)
Payment sent. Thanks! :icon_tup:

Any updates or realistic timeline on when these will be shipped?

garage alpha 11-11-20 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by Natey (Post 12443253)
Any updates or realistic timeline on when these will be shipped?

We're being told November 24th for CNC to finish up. This was originally November 15th - but we got bumped.




Natey 11-11-20 11:56 AM

I think the original date was supposed to be around Halloween by reading your 1st post here, but thanks for keeping us in the loop. :icon_tup:

It was going to be a birthday present for myself and today was the day I was going to open it. lol

garage alpha 11-11-20 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by Natey (Post 12443261)
I think the original date was supposed to be around Halloween by reading your 1st post here, but thanks for keeping us in the loop. :icon_tup:

It was going to be a birthday present for myself and today was the day I was going to open it. lol

November 15th is definitely *around* Halloween in the world of making short run, one off products. ;)

But everything seems to be taking just a bit longer than expected. All my laser cutters, water jet guys, carbon fiber manufacturers are all busy and understaffed right now. Its...weird. But it's also the run up to Black Friday / Cyber Monday - so I'm sure everyone is getting ramped up for that as well.

Whatever the case - we are chugging along. :icon_tup:

Natey 11-14-20 12:11 PM

November 24th plus a couple days to ship it? So the 30th or so?

Just trying to get an idea when to expect it. Your website says 4-6 weeks.

garage alpha 11-16-20 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by Natey (Post 12443803)
November 24th plus a couple days to ship it? So the 30th or so?

Just trying to get an idea when to expect it. Your website says 4-6 weeks.

Yeah. That sounds about right.


garage alpha 11-16-20 09:29 AM

I also just realized I *didn't* update this thread with the latest photos of the prototypes and carbon fiber key chains that showed up earlier in the month.

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/00...G?v=1605540503
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/00...G?v=1605540463
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/00...G?v=1605540462

Enjoy!

Myocardial Infarction 11-24-20 04:59 PM

Just so you know, this won't work on all later cars. The tip profile means that I couldn't use the key on my 99 spec car as I need it full fat all the way to the end.

Natey 12-05-20 10:03 PM

I don't wanna keep bumping this thread with where's my key and it seems like no one is updating it anytime soon. Am I the only one who ordered and paid? Has anyone received a key?

I didn't know I was waiting for the group to get big enough or I wouldn't have sent my money over two months ago. . I'm cool with a refund if you are, but I'm over waiting.

Thanks,
-Nate

TwinCharged RX7 12-05-20 10:22 PM

What's the big deal? It's a key. Have a little patience. I'm guessing you already have a key that works for your car. Does it really matter if it takes 3 months vs 1?

BryanDowns 12-06-20 11:58 PM


Originally Posted by TwinCharged RX7 (Post 12446890)
What's the big deal? It's a key. Have a little patience. I'm guessing you already have a key that works for your car. Does it really matter if it takes 3 months vs 1?


Probably depends on their expectations up front is my guess.

I'm sure itll be amazing if you are willing to wait. I've yet to get a product from these guys that wasnt fantastic.

garage alpha 12-07-20 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by Natey (Post 12446888)
I don't wanna keep bumping this thread with where's my key and it seems like no one is updating it anytime soon. Am I the only one who ordered and paid? Has anyone received a key?

I didn't know I was waiting for the group to get big enough or I wouldn't have sent my money over two months ago. . I'm cool with a refund if you are, but I'm over waiting.

Thanks,
-Nate

Hey Nate,

First off - my sincere apologies for making you (or anyone) wait for this or anything.

Ambitious projects, on a small scale, occasionally run into unforeseen bumps and hurdles from inception to completion.

Sometimes that takes the form of development, prototyping or even production.

Every product we offer has to be up to a certain level of quality and that takes time. Additionally, in a project like this, where we are working with another party (DemiurgeFD) we need to meet our standards AND theirs. If I could go through the list of seemingly unnoticeable changes that we made to the design in order to get is exactly right - it would be a post unto itself (think radius on the face of the key, smoothness of transition from key to body, etc, etc, etc). These were only in the development/prototype phase.

However, the *actual* delay was in the CNC. Because we don’t have huge runs of anything, our orders get shuffled around a bit. This meant our production run went from end of October, to November 15th, to November 24th. The good news is, that’s where it ended and the keys are done and ready to delivery *to us* tomorrow. I’ve been watching tracking info daily and anticipating a post to tell everyone the good news once they touched down.

All that said, and to clear up a misconception you may have - this isn’t / wasn’t a ‘group buy’ per se. It didn’t matter if you ordered two months ago or today - we weren’t waiting for a certain number of people to sign up to move forward. We were trying to dial in a round about number so we could adjust production numbers - the reason we want orders (and reward supporters for that) is because putting your name on a list is one thing, but ponying up is another. In all our experience, be it expensive or inexpensive, big or small response - the conversion from ‘interested’ to actually a customer is about 1/3, meaning if 100 people rush to sign up, only 33 will actually buy once the item is available, as you can imagine, this introduces all sorts of issues.

As I mentioned, the reward for pre-ordering is the free carbon fiber keychain. We always try to think up something as a ‘thanks’ that’s cool and exclusive since we know things might not always go to plan and/or to incentivize the early adopters. If this isn’t of value to you and supporting us early isn’t worth the wait - that’s fine. We do this for the community. We do it because we love the platform and want to make cool stuff. We don’t do it to disappoint people.




Originally Posted by TwinCharged RX7 (Post 12446890)
What's the big deal? It's a key. Have a little patience. I'm guessing you already have a key that works for your car. Does it really matter if it takes 3 months vs 1?

Thanks.


Originally Posted by BryanDowns (Post 12447019)
Probably depends on their expectations up front is my guess.

I'm sure itll be amazing if you are willing to wait. I've yet to get a product from these guys that wasnt fantastic.

Of course. We try to control expectations, and no one is more disappointed in delays than us. But I 100% agree with the sentiment - it will be worth the wait!



So bottom line - we are expecting these to be delivered tomorrow. Depending on what time that happens and how long it takes to turn them around - we should be able to start shipping the same / next day.

Expect photos in an additional post as well as tracking info in your email box. :icon_tup:​​​​​​​

Natey 12-07-20 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by TwinCharged RX7 (Post 12446890)
What's the big deal? It's a key. Have a little patience. I'm guessing you already have a key that works for your car. Does it really matter if it takes 3 months vs 1?

30 days out said the 1st post in September. I was buying myself a birthday present which has now turned into a Christmas present. There was no update to this thread in over a week when I posted, which was a week after I was promised it would be shipped. The key, which I paid 185 for, is now advertised for 100 dollars.

Patience is one thing, but I'm not getting ignored AND charged nearly double what they go for. .


garage alpha 12-07-20 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by Natey (Post 12447078)
30 days out said the 1st post in September. I was buying myself a birthday present which has now turned into a Christmas present. There was no update to this thread in over a week when I posted, which was a week after I was promised it would be shipped. The key, which I paid 185 for, is now advertised for 100 dollars.

Patience is one thing, but I'm not getting ignored AND charged nearly double what they go for. .

The first post was September 28th, so in fairness - lets call it October. My initial expectation WAS 30 days out, but that didn't happen. Every post by you was responded to in two days or less. Your initial question about delays was responded to in 15 minutes. So in what instance were you ignored? I genuinely would like to know so we can correct it in future projects.

As for the price - 100% incorrect. This key is NOT $100. The OLDER Spirit-R Titanium Key was $100 for Black Friday. NOT this one.

I'm really sorry your Birthday was ruined by this. Not my intent. Also, no promises were made. At best they were estimates - at worst they were off by a few weeks.


I get it, you're upset. We have a very fair and open cancellation / return policy. No restock fee, no reason even needed. We treat every customer how we'd expect to be treated. However, that's a two way street. That all said - a public forum is fine for discussion of delays and I am all for you airing your grievances - but please PM us or better yet, e-mail us if you have a concern over a specific order.

garage alpha 12-07-20 01:46 PM

For everyone waiting - the keys arrived a day early and we worked all morning to package and ship them out.

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/00...Rotor_Keys.JPG


Apologies for the delay - but I hope they exceed expectations. :bowdown:

Natey 12-10-20 11:46 AM

I'm not trying to mess with anyone's business and honestly, I was talking with my wife the other day and she said "What ever happened with that key?" and I said "What key?" Then she reminded me and I got a little eggy since there were no updates since I sent my money months ago and I almost forgot about it.

This is a legitimate issue, and if the tables were turned and I had a key since September (lets call September September) and you still had no money, I'm sure this conversation would be different.
This is the thread where all of our correspondence has taken place and I prefer to keep things public. I've been ripped off for thousands and thousands of dollars on this club and I'm over private messaging when it comes to that crpap.

You won't have to deal with me much longer because I'm thisclose to putting my FD up for sale. I'm SO sick of playing games like this and it's getting tougher and tougher to find honest people to work on it or even buy parts like a simple key. Even Atkins isn't flying straight anymore.


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