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Draklore 01-13-19 01:55 AM

DRAKES Product development thread
 
Disclaimer: I am not a vendor, this thread is not to sell anything and is simply a portal so RX7 Club members can view progress on my current projects and development of parts for the FD platform. If that is not allowed please feel free to delete this thread.


Hello! I don't post here that much, as I mainly use IG to post my updates or pose questions regarding new parts. (@Draklore)

Anyways, here's some projects I have either worked on or that are currently in development. Everything I do is simply modeled in RHD but I make in both RHD and LHD.

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Draklore 01-13-19 02:00 AM

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Spalato 01-13-19 10:44 AM

Amazing work! Wow!!

ptrhahn 01-13-19 10:58 AM

Good stuff! Been following you on IG for a while, I have your single-gauge center speaker pod.

Will be calling for a custom product.

CrispyRX7 01-13-19 02:10 PM

great work!

gracer7-rx7 01-13-19 03:10 PM

Cool parts
How does the PFC / phone / cup holder mount?

Draklore 01-13-19 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by gracer7-rx7 (Post 12324338)
Cool parts
How does the PFC / phone / cup holder mount?

thank you, they mount to where the dimmer switch normally sits, some fds have a blanking panel there and no switch, if you have the switch you will need to leave it plugged in and tuck it down the side or behind the panel. there is a magnetic adapter that sits in the slot, and will accept wither the pfc holder or my cup holder. opens up some versatility for that spot
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Draklore 01-13-19 06:39 PM

Updated Meter hood CAD with tabs and cluster support modeled in. next the first prototype
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403rx7 01-13-19 08:15 PM

Excellent, been following on FB and Insta for a while... keep up the good work, I want these wrapped in black alcantara :D

Draklore 01-13-19 09:05 PM

I appreciate all the kind remarks. Hopefully I can keep posting regular updates here as it seems im constantly developing parts or making custom changes to old ones

MattGold 01-14-19 12:58 PM

Great to see you on here Shane!

I'm going to copy/paste a post I made on Facebook a while ago as I think it's fitting and may address some concerns people might have over a 3D printed product...

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I just wanted to take a quick moment and appreciate the companies, but more so, the people that keep on innovating, pushing and keeping the FD a platform worth playing with.

Specifically, I wanted to focus on Shane Drake / DRAKES who is just killing it with his recent gauge pods. I just received his new LHD column mount gauge pod and it's the real deal.

I’ve had thoughts about the 3D printed stuff being “meh” in a production environment. I mean, it’s great for prototyping and stuff you’re not gonna actually use... but for a finished product? Really?

Yes. The answer is yes. His stuff is just as nice as any aftermarket gauge pod from Autometer or RE-A - if not better.

If you've been on the fence or not sure if his products are high enough quality - they are.

The other "big picture" idea I like about 3D printing is that every piece can be better then the previous. Any idea can be incorporated and the piece can evolve into the best product possible. With an injected molded or fiberglass molded piece, you design it and that's that. No evolution of the product, it just "is" for better or for worse. But with 3D printing, incremental changes and improvements never end.

Ok. That wasn't exactly a "quick moment" - but thanks for reading.
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:icon_tup:

Narfle 01-14-19 01:20 PM

The column mount pod is cool, especially if it's designed to work with the LHD steering column and stalks. There's a huge market for textured or affordable LHD meter hoods, if it's viable. Thanks for the great designs.

MattGold 01-14-19 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by Narfle (Post 12324484)
The column mount pod is cool, especially if it's designed to work with the LHD steering column and stalks. There's a huge market for textured or affordable LHD meter hoods, if it's viable. Thanks for the great designs.

Yes. It is. Shane's solution for this is PERFECT. I currently have it installed on my car. VERY impressive stuff.


RikTT 01-14-19 01:34 PM

I have a couple products from him as well which is really sweet looking !

Draklore 01-14-19 01:48 PM

Thanks Matt!! And yes everything is available LHD and RHd as the interiors are just mirrored. I simply do all the scans and CAD in RHD as my personal car is RHD.


i can’t thank everyone enough, I find myself trying to do better with each month, each product. It is honestly difficult to get consistent perfect results, but the fact that people have stuck with me is inspiring and keeps me going 🤘🏻

silverTRD 01-15-19 12:21 PM

How is figment on the RE A style column pod? I have the Petit and it isn’t great.

Skeese 01-15-19 12:41 PM

Hey Shane! Welcome to the forums, glad to see you made it over here!

Shane made me a custom dash vent replacement to hold my rectangular afr500v2 wideband that came out perfect and fit like a glove. Excellent work, excellent product, excellent price and excellent communication.

Skeese

Draklore 01-15-19 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by silverTRD (Post 12324652)
How is figment on the RE A style column pod? I have the Petit and it isn’t great.

i’d like to think it’s really good, since making Matt’s I have made a second version that lines up even better, has more strength and rigidity and a bit better overall shape. From a distance they are indistinguishable but I will have to get some updated photos. I think there are about 30 or 40 of them out there, just waiting for install pictures from the new ones

I used SCans to ensure clearance for everything underneath and the cluster itself, this meant sitting the pod as low as possible while maintaining an OEM like look and fitment. The tabs are metal and it clips in so well I broke the first few trying to remove them before getting everything squared away

I think I’ve solved all the issues now and I’m really happy with it. Since it’s available in left hand drive, and right hand drive the fitment is spot on regardless. On top of that everything I offer has a lifetime warranty



thanks skeese, can’t wait to see the final install pics!

Project88Turbo 01-15-19 07:51 PM

If you can make an affordable LHD gauge hood, everyone will probably buy 2!

Several vendors have been unsuccessful at bringing that to market. They post pictures of prototypes and that's as far as they ever get.

I'd be down for one myself as the one in my car is pieced together.

Vince

H_M 01-16-19 11:08 AM

I'm glad that you're posting on here now. I've been following your IG posts for a while. I love the products that you're coming out with. It's great to see people making new and innovative parts (and replacement parts) for these cars.

garage alpha 01-16-19 11:53 AM

Welcome! Big fan!

MattGold 01-16-19 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by silverTRD (Post 12324652)
How is figment on the RE A style column pod? I have the Petit and it isn’t great.

It's really, really good fitment. The metal locating pins are awesome and can't imagine what improvements could have been made.

10/10

97fd3s 01-16-19 01:07 PM

Club discount?

dguy 01-16-19 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by 97fd3s (Post 12324871)
Club discount?


Haha, look at his prices, they're already more than fair. Pay the man for his efforts.

You'll definitely be hearing from me when I get closer to the interior of my FD as well as potentially some bits I've been curious about for an MG project I'm working on.

Draklore 01-19-19 03:16 AM


Draklore 01-19-19 03:25 AM

Getting excited! PLEASE EXCUSE the RAW ABS without any finishing. if you have seen any of my other stuff you know this stuff will go through hours of finishing and post processing.


Currently I am working on getting the fitment much tighter on the meter hood.

you can see the oem tabs are small and brittle with little to no support. On mine the screw boses are metal inserts with really wide bases which makes huge difference in rigidity and strength

on another note, I am loving this 7" BTI dash, so far so good.

as far as timelines and prices, I have discussed some of this in detail but Ideally in the coming days I will open up sales with a configurable web page on my site. any input is welcome. please note all of these parts are in process.
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Project88Turbo 01-19-19 07:18 AM

That's looking good! If you make it and LHD and RHD you should sell tons of these.

Does the ABS hold up in the sun? The was once a vendor selling gauge pods, but they would melt and deform once summer rolled along. Not sure what type of plastic they were using. I would assume ABS is fine since the original parts are made of that, but I don't know anything about 3D printing.

Only thing I really know is that you have a lot of skill to make and redesign these parts, and your printer must be huge to make these.

Keep up the good work!
Vince

Draklore 01-19-19 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by Project88Turbo (Post 12325330)
That's looking good! If you make it and LHD and RHD you should sell tons of these.

Does the ABS hold up in the sun? The was once a vendor selling gauge pods, but they would melt and deform once summer rolled along. Not sure what type of plastic they were using. I would assume ABS is fine since the original parts are made of that, but I don't know anything about 3D printing.

Only thing I really know is that you have a lot of skill to make and redesign these parts, and your printer must be huge to make these.

Keep up the good work!
Vince

I'll start by saying, yes I sell everything in LHD and RHD.
Secondly my stuff is warrantied for LIFE. So if issues were to ever arise, the part is covered.
Yes ABS holds up in the sun, MOST people printing parts at this time are using low grade machines and low grade materials that are easier to print. To my knowledge there is no one producing panels like this in ABS for any other automotive platform. although to be 100% transparent I have had two failures in over 1000 parts that were probably due to heat and some other effect from post processing. not really sure. The original parts are also made from ABS. yet printing does introduce some interesting characteristics that are unavoidable (like grain structure etc) Despite all of that, I have had overwhelming luck and cant wait to get these panels sorted. I wouldn't run them in my own personal car if i didn't believe in them lol

Project88Turbo 01-19-19 08:01 AM

Thanks for the detailed answer. I'm glad you took on this project and your work looks amazing.

I look forward to purchasing a gauge hood once available.

Vince

Draklore 01-19-19 08:16 AM

thanks brother! stay tuned for updates. cant wait to get all this stuff done

dguy 01-19-19 02:07 PM

Looks great. I also think that you should give the option of NO post machining cleanup other than extraneous boogers for those of us that are wrapping or finishing our interiors in something other than stock. But I'm biased :)

Draklore 01-19-19 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by dguy (Post 12325373)
Looks great. I also think that you should give the option of NO post machining cleanup other than extraneous boogers for those of us that are wrapping or finishing our interiors in something other than stock. But I'm biased :)

i have been teaching myself carbon overlay, but if someone wanted to private message me about such a thing I would be open to discussion on it. Just need to figure out what the post processing costs me.

Draklore 01-20-19 03:33 AM

Tonight's project,.finishing up the CAD work on this Pillar pod. dual 60mm gauges aimed at the driver. no double sided tape needed with OEM fitment
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ptrhahn 01-20-19 12:04 PM

Could you make something similar for the AIM MXS 5" dash?

P

wthx100 01-20-19 03:55 PM

So how much for a lhd textured 94 gauge cluster and price of lhd radio gauge cluster?

Draklore 01-20-19 04:55 PM

Done, Meter hood I feel has good fit up on both my cluster and the oem cluster. Gauge mounting tabs and the tabs that are responsible for breaking the oem clusters also fit well and line up!

it was difficult to get a good fit on the oem cluster because I only have one working screw boss! Check out my screw bosses though. Super large bases with threaded metal inserts.

ill provide the hardware for these and now I can start working on finishes. I think though at this point it’s time to organize all of this and add it to my website.

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Project88Turbo 01-20-19 06:00 PM

Looking good man! I think I know where my next bit of fun money is going.

Vince

Draklore 01-20-19 11:55 PM

So with these parts nearly complete, i'd like to get some input from the forum members on concerns or feedback.

I'll start with saying my goals and some things that may clear the air or answer questions in advance:

Everything I sell or have sold, is done so with a lifetime warranty on that part to the original buyer.
I feel customer feedback and honesty is 100% the best way to proceed with everything, this also means I will often provide unfiltered responses if I feel your question is unfiltered etc and I'm pretty unapologetic about it..
I like to shy away from discussing my manufacturing methods because there is huge stigma against printed stuff. primarily coming from hoe ass shops trying to make a quick buck. Fuck those shops.
Yes 3D printing has come a long ways, but also yes there are still issues and aspects that make the process un appealing for all parts or components.

The largest issue with printed parts is there layers, meaning if 2 of the 1000s of layers fail to bond, you have a weak section of that part. I do my best to ensure I design and eliminate this from happening, and of course every part is different.
Casting and Injection molding WILL ALWAYS provide a better stronger part.
I would highly advise against standing on my map lids or large flat interior panels lmao I don't think that's covered under warranty

I Only use ABS and high grade paint like SEM etc.

I have seen 3d printed stuff sold for pennies, and I have seen RX7 parts sold for 1000s, I like to keep my prices below parts I feel are better alternatives. Even though I offer dozens of parts that no one else does, I value a community that can afford to
mod their cars and in return, I hope that people have the understanding that I'm a 1 man show, and everything is hand finished or 1 off.

with that being said, my parts from a year ago and today I feel have drastically improved. I am constantly trying to improve my designs, my finishes and my turn around.
Sometimes I send out parts that are not perfect and when that happens I feel pretty bad. a layer line i missed sanding or a run i missed while finishing. I send out a lot of parts so this is inevitable and im sorry

I have had i think 3 part failures now. two were due to acetone washing the parts I believe. they warped in the sun pretty badly. I revised the designs and sent replacements
the third was a cup holder that I had not caught a bad layer separation, and it failed during shipment.


anyways, I appreciate the comments or feedback, thanks again

Shane Drake

MattGold 01-21-19 10:33 AM

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Someone PMd me about seeing some pics of the column pod installed...

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I think these show the spot on fitment and the spot on finishing that Shane does.

Again, I have no affiliation - I'm just a customer and a fan.

Tim Benton 01-21-19 11:25 AM

Let’s see, steering column pod mount, commander holder, cup holder, A pillar mount so far in the wallet check, and the hood cover at some future point :)

looking forward to thr the website and product release....nicely done!

Draklore 01-22-19 04:41 AM

Briefly I'll talk about these inserts for the Shift surround. Basically they are little ABS Coin holders and blanks that fit into the OE brackets, essentially they snap into the spots where the buttons and stuff goes. I made blanks as well. In the future I would like to do like audio jacks and usb ports and stuff. overall I really like the idea
and hope to refine it in the future, but here they are. cheap to make so they are cheap to sell!
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Draklore 01-24-19 05:47 AM

Meter Hood is finalized and available, LHD and RHD.
and huge news, I finally replicated the 94+ finish. I added this to an option for all my FD parts!

And lastly the cluster is available in many configurations as well!
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SuphaG 01-24-19 11:08 AM

The hood looks really good! I wanted to take of my hood and cluster surround to paint it, but was too worried about cracking the stock hood. Knowing I can get a better replacement if mine does crack, I'm more willing to attempt it now haha. Good work man! :icon_tup:

Project88Turbo 01-24-19 12:28 PM

That gauge hood looks awesome. As soon as I get my tax refund I'm ordering one! Do you offer the cluster surround in the factory/ oem setup too?

Vince

DaleClark 01-24-19 01:46 PM

Ordered a hood today, can't wait to get it! Thanks for making these parts, this is a real tough spot in the RX-7 world since Mazda doesn't have the parts new any more.

Dale

Draklore 01-26-19 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by Project88Turbo (Post 12326204)
That gauge hood looks awesome. As soon as I get my tax refund I'm ordering one! Do you offer the cluster surround in the factory/ oem setup too?

Vince

Thanks!, Unfortunately at this time i do not offer a factory style cluster panel as the work involved would be crazy, BUT soon I will offer a cluster for aftermarket gauges (Like speedhut), and adapters for the oem cluster panel to do the same. and Maybe just maybe at some point I will offer a oem style cluster

Draklore 01-26-19 05:05 PM

Love how the Pillar pod came out, overall the finish and fitment is awesome. I am sure as some of you know, there has been a plethora of LHD available pods with varying levels of fitment (some using double sided tape etc) My goal with these is to offer a setup that fits and snaps in like OEM

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Draklore 01-27-19 04:04 AM

Need some help locating part numbers or substitute for the metal retainers on the Meter Hood and the Shift Surround.

Making decent progress on this shift surround, I had previously made a quick blank to see how practical this will be printed. I learned quite a bit from that, so now I'm excited to see this come to life in its entirety. Likely this will have some post process reinforcement added. but I wont know until I make the finished piece.
Also curious what kind of options people are going to want. Obvious options are cup holder, arm rest and oem buttons. aside from that I am open to ideas.
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Johnny Kommavongsa 01-27-19 06:49 AM

I don't have any feedback on the shifter surround but looking forward to what you are going to make.

I am interested in the door plastics. Have u thought about making these? If so, do u have a timeframe?

Draklore 01-27-19 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by Johnny Kommavongsa (Post 12326645)
I don't have any feedback on the shifter surround but looking forward to what you are going to make.

I am interested in the door plastics. Have u thought about making these? If so, do u have a timeframe?

Other than the map lid, which I’ve already created. The only door plastic I have planned is the pocket itself.

the rest of the plastics could be done, but would be incredibly time consuming and would require quite the development budget. I just don’t see the market supporting my time to do so.
we are talking like 800$ in developmental costs per side. If people wanted to come together to make that happen, it would still be some months for me to get to a point where I could actually tackle it

thanks for asking though


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