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SakeBomb Garage 07-15-15 02:49 PM

GB#3 - FC3S Bi-Xenon HID Projector Headlights (v.2) - SBG
 
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With summer in full swing, we seem to be receiving a ton of messages asking if our headlights are available. Unfortunately as we only make them in large batches for group buy runs we’ve had to turn everyone away for single orders due to lack of time to build them as we’re working on so many other projects at the moment. Since the headlights have to be hand built and are very time consuming we’ve put them on the back burner for quite some time.

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INFO:

We all know that the stock headlights on the RX-7 are completely inadequate for night driving. The possibility of missing something on the side of the road, up ahead, or around a corner creates a dangerous scenario. We finally decided to fix this problem once and for all. SakeBomb Garage is pleased to knock your socks off with the highest quality 'pop-up' Bi-Xenon Projector HID kit for the FC.

Unlike our original design this new design does not require housing spacers to clear the bulb connector. At nearly half the cost, and with no hassles with modifications or spacers to fit the deep projector the new setup is a no brainer for anyone looking for a proper lighting setup for their FC (or any other car using the same headlight size).

FC Owners: Welcome to the 21st Century!
PRODUCT HIGHLIGHTS:


- New headlight housings, with bi-xenon (high/low) projectors
- Optically clear projector lenses
- New SBG 4300K bulbs (5000k SBG bulbs with 50w ballast option, 6000k available as special order)
- High quality 35w SLIM weather/shock proof digital ballast (35w heavy duty ballasts, & 50w heavy duty ballasts available)
- Custom SBG Plug and Play wiring harness - specifically for the FC

Optional 35W HeavyDuty Ballast Upgrade:
Our standard Bi-Xenon kit comes with 35W Slim Ballast to create the most cost effective and lightweight Bi-Xenon kit available. We offer an optional upgrade to a 35W HeavyDuty Ballast, which are more durable and resistant to temperature and vibration. They also have an integrated ignitor for a cleaner and more compact wiring solution.

Optional 50W HeavyDuty Ballast Upgrade:
We also offer the option of 50W ballasts (and accompanying 5000k bulbs) instead of the OEM-spec 35W ballasts and 4300K bulbs. There are pros and cons to using 50W ballasts, so please select the kit that best suits your personal preference.

Xenon bulbs are manufactured to run at 35W, however they can be over-driven to produce more light than would normally be available at a lower wattage. Typically one will find an additional 30% increase in total light, however this extra light does come at a cost: the additional wattage can somewhat reduce the lifespan of the bulbs. The color range of the bulbs is shifted LOWER (more yellow) with increased wattage; however the color temp can be shifted back up to normal bright white by using 5000K bulbs, which is why we will supply the 50W ballasts with 5000K bulbs. At the end of the day, yes, the total light output is increased with 50W ballasts, but it does not change the beam pattern with which it is distributed so you simply end up with a BRIGHTER light, not wider or longer throw. Is this a good thing? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. In the city where streets are well lit, the extra light from the 50w ballasts is definitely welcome, but on very dimly lit back-roads the contrast difference between foreground and background could feel overwhelming to some, and reflector signs will appear very reflective. It is a personal choice whether this increased light output is right for you, but if in doubt remember that the OEM standard is 35W.

We’re confident that this is currently the best performing lighting kit available for the FC, from here to Japan… bar none! This setup is the standard against which other lights are currently judged. Yes, they're that good. These lights ARE the gold standard, and we've yet to see a higher performing lighting setup. We built these lights not only for aesthetic benefit, but as a much needed safety item to prevent a potential accident. Yes they are expensive, but so is your car and they have personally saved us from accidents, deer, and tickets over the many years we’ve been running them

PRICE ($100 off retail):
$465.00 - 35w Ballasts and SBG 4300k Bulbs
$485.00 - 35w Heavy Duty Ballasts and SBG 4300k Bulbs
$505.00 - 50w Heavy Duty Ballasts (~30% brighter) with SBG 5000K Bulbs


This group buy base pricing is $100 off the standard price; However, we typically do not have these in stock as it is.

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GROUP BUY INSTRUCTIONS:

This Group Buy will run a little differently than usual. Here's how it will work:


1. We have set up a group buy "deposit" page, which requires you make an initial deposit of $100 towards your headlights. The link to that page is here:
GROUP BUY DEPOSIT: FC3S SilverLine Bi-Xenon HID Projector Headlights (July 2015) - SakeBomb Garage LLC

2. After completing payment for this deposit, you will receive a confirmation e-mail of your order.
3. We will then send you a second e-mail containing a unique coupon code for a $200.00 credit towards your purchase of your
FC3S: SilverLine Bi-Xenon HID Projector Headlights - SakeBomb Garage LLC

4. YOUR UNIQUE COUPON CODE WILL EXPIRE AT 12:00 MIDNIGHT AUGUST 31ST, 2015 PST.
5. YOU MUST SUBMIT FULL PAYMENT FOR YOUR "FC3S RX-7 SILVER LINE HEADLIGHTS" BY 12:00 MIDNIGHT AUGUST 31ST, 2015 PST.
6. To submit your full payment before 8/31/2015 visit the following link to and check-out using your unique group-buy deposit code:
FC3S: SilverLine Bi-Xenon HID Projector Headlights - SakeBomb Garage LLC

7. After 8/31/2015 your group buy code will expire, and you will lose your spot if you have not sent in full payment. If any spots remain you may still complete your checkout at that point, and we will apply your $100 deposit towards the purchase of the lights.

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NOTE: We are making 15 sets of lights total for this run. We do not know when/if we will have time to make these available again, so for now this will be the last run of headlights until further notice.

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SakeBomb Garage 07-15-15 02:50 PM

Info on our Bi-Xenon setup

HID Lighting 101:

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Other HID “kits” use the stock headlight housing in conjunction with a Xenon bulb. The plus side, they are unbelievably cheap. The negative side? Typically these setups:


- Blind other drivers
- Have a horrible field of view
- Severely scatter the light
- Have uneven lighting with no cutoff
- Actually WORSEN your night vision (they throw intense light into the foreground. This makes your pupils close, causing your distance night-vision to become worse than with your stock halogen lights)

Projector HID's on the other hand are what is used in every OEM HID lighting setup. Our Projectors:

- Have a very even dispersion of light
- Have a very wide dispersion of light
- Have a very long throw (with high beams)
- Illuminate much larger portions of the road while not ruining your night vision
- Oh yeah, and they don't blind other drivers, or attract attention from people who may or may not drive Crown Victorias

Projectors vs Reflectors:

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Here is a good video comparing true projector HID’s to “conversion/reflector” HID’s:


To truly see the difference you need to see our kit in person, pictures honestly don’t do it justice. But don’t take our word for it…

Here’s what current owners have said:











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Optional 50W Ballasts:

We are now offering the option of a 50w ballast (and accompanying 5000k bulb) instead of the OEM-spec 35w ballasts. There are pros and cons to using 50w ballasts, but we'll do our best to explain the differences below.

Xenon bulbs are manufactured to run at 35 watts, however they can be over-driven to produce more light than would normally be available at a lower wattage. Typically one will find an additional 30% increase in total light, however this extra light does come at a cost. The additional wattage does reduce the lifespan of the bulbs somewhat. The color range of the bulbs is shifted LOWER (more yellow) with increased wattage (however the color temp can be shifted back up to normal (around 4300k) by using "5000K bulbs"), which is why we will supply this kit with 5000 Kelvin bulbs.

At the end of the day, yes, the total light output is increased, but it does not change the beam pattern with which it is distributed, so you simply end up with a BRIGHTER light, not wider or longer throw. Is this a good thing? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. In the city where streets are well lit, the extra light from the 50w ballasts is definitely welcome, but on very dimly lit back-roads the contrast difference between foreground and background could feel overwhelming to some, and reflector signs will appear very reflective. It is a personal choice whether this increased light output is right for you, but if in doubt remember that the OEM standard is 35w.


SakeBomb Garage 07-16-15 06:22 PM

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SakeBomb Garage 07-22-15 04:37 PM

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SakeBomb Garage 07-30-15 03:53 PM

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blackball7 08-16-15 03:20 AM

I want a pair, but your site wont let me order!

blackball7 08-16-15 03:28 AM

Also, do you have some already built?

galaxy convoy 08-17-15 12:14 AM

So when are you guys going to make it and ship this things out?

SakeBomb Garage 08-17-15 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by blackball7 (Post 11955758)
I want a pair, but your site wont let me order!

Try again - we've been working out some bugs that popped up after a recent update to the website back end. If things still don't work out, shoot us an email at info@sakebombgarage.com and we'll get you taken care of.


Originally Posted by blackball7 (Post 11955760)
Also, do you have some already built?

We have some partway through the assembly process - the hard part is already done :)


Originally Posted by galaxy convoy (Post 11956161)
So when are you guys going to make it and ship this things out?

The group buy still isn't full, but we're hoping to begin production and have them ready to ship by the end of September, however turnout has been lower than we expected so far. Hopefully it'll pick up.

IAN 08-17-15 06:55 PM

Whats the difference between my GB#2 and this GB#3 V.2? IE whats the V.2 :)

blackball7 08-17-15 08:48 PM

Got it!

blackball7 08-17-15 09:00 PM

So we should have them by the end of September to early October?

SakeBomb Garage 08-18-15 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by IAN (Post 11956562)
Whats the difference between my GB#2 and this GB#3 V.2? IE whats the V.2 :)

The V.2 refers to the second revision of our headlights; we used different projectors in the first version that required spacers and a lot of modifications to get them to fit properly. So, we redid them to have a new projector that fits way better.


Originally Posted by blackball7 (Post 11956632)
So we should have them by the end of September to early October?

Provided everything goes according to plan, yes :)

blackball7 08-19-15 12:45 AM

Could you elaborate more on the difference between the Slim and HD ballasts, please.

SakeBomb Garage 08-19-15 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by blackball7 (Post 11957211)
Could you elaborate more on the difference between the Slim and HD ballasts, please.

Our 35W slim ballasts are designed to fit in smaller spaces to give you more flexibility with where you place them, but the HD (heavy duty) ballasts won't wear out as quickly since they've got better heat sinks and more durable (and larger) electronics built in. Both are fully potted and fully waterproof, the slim ballast has an external igniter where the HD and 50W ballast have the igniter built in to the box itself.

Pete_89T2 08-23-15 09:16 AM

I'm very interested in this for my FC, but have a few questions I didn't see answered here before I pull the trigger on joining the GB.

1. Do you have detailed installation instructions posted up somewhere that I can download & review first before signing up?

2. Do you have a solid delivery date scheduled, based on the current group buy cut-off for orders? Previous posts allude to "late Sep/early Oct", but I'd feel more comfortable with an actual "no later than" delivery date.

3. Assuming you do commit to a "no later than" delivery date, if SBGarage fails to meet that date, will folks who participated in the GB have the option to either wait for delivery or chose to opt out and receive a full & prompt refund of their payments?

Thanks!

Rob XX 7 08-25-15 01:05 PM

just a tip- offer the extended length harness for the ballasts, it allows the ballast to be mounted in a much better area of the FC especially when you factor in the pop- up

incubuseva 08-28-15 11:46 PM

Can we order replacement parts through you as well?

archaphil 08-30-15 09:00 AM

the quality of this kit is awesome dudes. I picked up a set last GB with the heavy duty ballast.

SakeBomb Garage 08-31-15 01:21 PM

Sorry for the delay getting back to everyone! We were shortstaffed last week, there's a superbug going around that took out the whole team for a few days :( Stay healthy folks!


Originally Posted by Pete_89T2 (Post 11958940)
I'm very interested in this for my FC, but have a few questions I didn't see answered here before I pull the trigger on joining the GB.

1. Do you have detailed installation instructions posted up somewhere that I can download & review first before signing up?

2. Do you have a solid delivery date scheduled, based on the current group buy cut-off for orders? Previous posts allude to "late Sep/early Oct", but I'd feel more comfortable with an actual "no later than" delivery date.

3. Assuming you do commit to a "no later than" delivery date, if SBGarage fails to meet that date, will folks who participated in the GB have the option to either wait for delivery or chose to opt out and receive a full & prompt refund of their payments?

Thanks!

We've got a full instruction guide available, please shoot us an email at info@sakebombgarage.com and I'll send you the PDF.

We don't have a solid delivery date, mainly because we're building multiple chassis' HID kits all at the same time and each kit has its own complications. Ideally we'll have these out within the next few weeks but as with our previous group buys it's always a bit of a guessing game.

If at any point you wish to back out of the group buy, please email us and we'll help get things taken care of.


Originally Posted by Rob XX 7 (Post 11959921)
just a tip- offer the extended length harness for the ballasts, it allows the ballast to be mounted in a much better area of the FC especially when you factor in the pop- up

We actually changed the design of the ballasts recently to include extra wire for this exact reason :icon_tup:


Originally Posted by incubuseva (Post 11961356)
Can we order replacement parts through you as well?

Yes, we have replacement ballasts and bulbs in stock and ready to go at all times. Ballasts and bulbs are warranteed for a period of 1 year, and after that we offer replacement parts for very reasonable prices.


Originally Posted by archaphil (Post 11961755)
the quality of this kit is awesome dudes. I picked up a set last GB with the heavy duty ballast.

It's always good to hear about happy customers :) We put a lot of time and effort into making the best possible products we can.

I've also got an updated list of orders:

1. Website order (Texas) - fully paid
2. Website order (California) - fully paid
3. Website order (Hawaii) - fully paid
4. Website order (APO) - fully paid
5. Website order (New Jersey) - deposit paid
6. Website order (Indiana) - fully paid
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SakeBomb Garage 09-02-15 04:03 PM

If you haven't redeemed your coupon code yet, make sure to do that soon! Some of them have expired already, so make sure to let us know if you have issues applying the coupon code at checkout.

1. Website order (Texas) - fully paid
2. Website order (California) - fully paid
3. Website order (Hawaii) - fully paid
4. Website order (APO) - fully paid
5. Website order (New Jersey) - deposit paid
6. Website order (Indiana) - fully paid
7. Website order (New Jersey) - fully paid
8. Website order (Washington) - deposit paid
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blackball7 09-02-15 10:45 PM

Are you sending them out as they get finished or when they are all finished?

SakeBomb Garage 09-03-15 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by blackball7 (Post 11963436)
Are you sending them out as they get finished or when they are all finished?

Since we're making them in a batch assembly-line style, they'll all get shipped right around the same time.

1. Website order (Texas) - fully paid
2. Website order (California) - fully paid
3. Website order (Hawaii) - fully paid
4. Website order (APO) - fully paid
5. Website order (New Jersey) - deposit paid
6. Website order (Indiana) - fully paid
7. Website order (New Jersey) - fully paid
8. Website order (Washington) - fully paid
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SakeBomb Garage 09-08-15 03:16 PM

Looks like we got an order in here twice.

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2. Website order (California) - fully paid
3. Website order (Hawaii) - fully paid
4. Website order (APO) - fully paid
5. Website order (New Jersey) - fully paid
6. Website order (Indiana) - fully paid
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blackball7 09-23-15 09:26 PM

We are getting close to the end of the month, any update?

galaxy convoy 09-27-15 03:11 PM

Updates?

blackball7 10-07-15 01:06 AM

Been about a month since we've heard from you and another weeks time will be mid October. Any updates for us?

galaxy convoy 10-07-15 09:43 AM

I emailed them and they're in the process of building them

"If we are finished in time next week, but otherwise we'll be looking at the week after. We lost one employee last week so were firing on half cylinders at the moment but don't want to cut any corners to try to speed it up"

galaxy convoy 10-15-15 09:36 AM

Since no updates at all this week that means we are expecting them to ship out next week?

Malikai229 10-22-15 03:46 AM

Feeling the same way. Would like an update since the email I got said they'd be shipping out late last week. It's now late this week... Please just keep us updated.

SakeBomb Garage 10-22-15 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by Malikai229 (Post 11982509)
Feeling the same way. Would like an update since the email I got said they'd be shipping out late last week. It's now late this week... Please just keep us updated.

Hey everyone, thanks for bearing with us. We've been understaffed for the last couple weeks so we're a bit behind schedule, but that said, we're shipping out half the orders tomorrow, and the rest mid-way through next week. We'll send emails to anyone who still needs to submit final payment. Those that already submitted final payment are at the top of the list in order of submission date.

Long story short, thank you guys for bearing with us through this process, it's taken longer than we expected and we had to drag out the group buy longer than we wanted due to low numbers. Unfortunately the FC market seems to have dried up for the most part so continuing to develop for this chassis will be somewhat limited... though in addition to the HID's we do have a few parts for the FC due to be released in the next month or so. Hopefully performance parts will resonate a bit better with the FC community than performance lights ;) .

SBG only stays in business and develops parts based on community interest... if the interest disappears so do we. Vote with your FC parts orders from us, so we don't have to start doing Hondas :D

-Heath

Malikai229 10-28-15 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by SBGarage (Post 11982649)
Hey everyone, thanks for bearing with us. We've been understaffed for the last couple weeks so we're a bit behind schedule, but that said, we're shipping out half the orders tomorrow, and the rest mid-way through next week. We'll send emails to anyone who still needs to submit final payment. Those that already submitted final payment are at the top of the list in order of submission date.

Long story short, thank you guys for bearing with us through this process, it's taken longer than we expected and we had to drag out the group buy longer than we wanted due to low numbers. Unfortunately the FC market seems to have dried up for the most part so continuing to develop for this chassis will be somewhat limited... though in addition to the HID's we do have a few parts for the FC due to be released in the next month or so. Hopefully performance parts will resonate a bit better with the FC community than performance lights ;) .

SBG only stays in business and develops parts based on community interest... if the interest disappears so do we. Vote with your FC parts orders from us, so we don't have to start doing Hondas :D

-Heath

Thanks for providing an update Heath. Should we expect to see tracking numbers on the items either via email or PayPal?

blackball7 11-06-15 03:24 PM

Soooooo.... Is that a no on tracking numbers? Have they gone out?

galaxy convoy 11-07-15 03:41 PM

Its better to email them to check the status of your order, I got mine already after a problem shipping it to me, when i recieved it they sent me a wrong bulb. And Im still waiting for a tracking # for the bulb that would fit the hid housing

SakeBomb Garage 11-14-15 04:53 PM

For anyone still waiting on their lights, they will be out Monday (we're working this weekend to make sure of that).

Galaxy Convoy, if you didn't receive your bulb replacement, send us an email immediately and we'll figure out what's up.

archaphil 11-15-15 03:33 PM

worth the wait boys. sit tight

blackball7 11-30-15 03:45 PM

Still waiting.....

I was given my tracking number about 2 weeks ago, gave FedEx a call today and they said they never received a physical package, only that a label was created.

So far, HORRIBLE customer service. Over a month late with delivery and next to nothing in the way of updates on what the hell is going on.

I'm not upset that it's late, more that there was never any communication on why it's late. I would very much like a phone call explaining where my package is and when it will be in my hands as soon as possible.

blackball7 11-30-15 11:17 PM

Thanks for the call guys. I'll get back to you tomorrow

SakeBomb Garage 12-01-15 02:50 PM

FC Light delays
 
Blackball7 We got your message and we're trying to track down what happened to your shipment. We put in a claim with Fedex for the lost package and hopefully it'll turn up. In the meantime, we've packed you another kit, its now sitting in our outgoing mail room, with the rest of our final FC HID kit batch. If the original kit shows up as well, we'll get a return label to you, sorry for the hiccup.

For anyone else waiting on an HID kit, the delays with this batch were an embarrassment for us, but they are now completed and in the mail. We took a shot when completed this run.

Once again, we're very sorry for all the delays, Happy Holidays.


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jinstacee 06-23-16 01:53 PM

Darn, I wish i picked up an FC before this GB because I seriously want to update my lights. Is there any chance that these make a come back?!

SakeBomb Garage 08-22-16 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by jinstacee (Post 12078590)
Darn, I wish i picked up an FC before this GB because I seriously want to update my lights. Is there any chance that these make a come back?!

Put your name on a new list, if we can get enough people together we're more than happy to make these again. Gathering FC owners in one place and actually collecting deposits to make parts is easier said than done... it takes a LONG time to build interest and much longer to actually get payments in compared to every other platform we deal with.

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jl1rx7 08-25-16 03:53 PM

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SakeBomb Garage 09-01-16 02:13 PM

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Sgtbaker 09-11-16 11:16 AM

I'm in for sure! Funny it seems like I was just emailing you about this. Haha

Brodin 09-22-16 06:55 PM

im in for one!

SakeBomb Garage 09-23-16 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by Brodin (Post 12109245)
im in for one!

...This is happening!

We have gotten multiple customer contacts for FC lights, and are putting together a small production run of them now. If you're interested in reserving a set, just check out on our product page! Supplies are limited, we have to special order a lot of these components, so pick up your pre-order spot before they sell out!

Brodin 10-03-16 01:41 AM

Perfect, thanks! How long do these lights last? I am interested in the 50w so how much of a shorter life span would that be compared to the 35w. Also, what's the difference between the slim and the HD. Thanks! Can't wait to place my order!

Bori12A 10-20-16 11:03 PM

Where do we sign up?

SakeBomb Garage 10-21-16 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by Brodin (Post 12111826)
Perfect, thanks! How long do these lights last? I am interested in the 50w so how much of a shorter life span would that be compared to the 35w. Also, what's the difference between the slim and the HD. Thanks! Can't wait to place my order!

The Slim ballasts are lighter and smaller, but the total lifespan is somewhat reduced, and they are water resistant not water "proof". The HD versions are heavier but can take more of a beating.

The bulb lifespan is hard to gauge... Replacement bulbs are under $50 but these bulbs last a VERY long time... standard 35w setups can last as long as 100K miles or more, and I wouldn't expect more than a 10-20% reduction in bulb life with the over-driven 50w ballasts.... either way you're looking at a VERY VERY long time between bulb replacements :icon_tup:.
-Heath

SakeBomb Garage 10-21-16 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by Bori12A (Post 12117164)
Where do we sign up?

At this point we are already mid-production run... we do these very infrequently so anyone that wants an HID kit, please check out ASAP on our website here -> SilverLine Bi-Xenon HID Projector Headlights (FC3S RX-7) - SakeBomb Garage LLC

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