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kiwiart 10-16-03 07:45 AM

turbo 11 probs
 
if anyone can give me some input here i will be greatfull , i'm running out of ideas fast , i have a s4 with smoking probs the car smokes on idle..... if i hold it at 2 grand i get a faint hue of blue smoke, as soon as i back off i get a decent amount of blue/white smoke then back to the smoky idle. now here's the problem the engine is fresh almost run in , about 800 clicks. and i have had the turbo off and looked at twice with new seals put in both times just to be sure.( hybrid t04 ) . when the turbo was off last time i blocked all feeds off and ran the car , no smoke at all. hmmmm i'm thinking gotta be turbo. get it back with thumbs up from my turbo guy ( and the new seals to be sure ) whack it on.... smoke !!!!! arrrggg. next step was run flexi tube into intake manifold off afm bypassing turbo completly ..... no smoke. so this also eliminates the hot side turbo seal. as soon as afm is hooked upto the turbo i get smoke. i run it for a while and check turbo outlet theres a thin film of oil in there only enough to lightly film the first elbow nothing in i/c piping . have checked oil return from turbo all good. what do you think ??? the car has standard ecu, t04 hybrid ,12a sec, front mount, extend port.

RETed 10-16-03 03:28 PM

Is your emissions intact?


-Ted

kiwiart 10-16-03 05:08 PM

car has no emissions . all blocked off ...... i was thinking maybe something to do with the fast idle and bac valve etc ??

jl_rotary 10-16-03 06:22 PM

i am experiencing similar problems. i have an engine that i purchased from a company that ships engines from japan. i have white smoke only between shifts and if i run the car up to about 4000 rpms and let off the gas, during deceleration it lets out a big cloud of smoke. i also have changed the turbo 3 times. does this sound like a broken waterjacket or oil seals? the car doesn t overheat or no missing coolant. any ideas or suggestions are greatly appreciated.

RETed 10-17-03 02:05 AM

What about the "PCV"? The purge valve?


-Ted

kiwiart 10-17-03 05:27 AM

no purge valve i have the two lines from oil filler cap going to atmosphere.

kiwiart 10-18-03 05:49 AM

put a standard turbo on tonight , got same results ..... getting a little confused !!

fstrnyou 10-18-03 01:34 PM

I have a similar problem. I don't even have any miles on my fresh Atkins engine. I start the motor, everything is fine, no smoke from exhaust or engine bay area. Then after about 3 minutes of 1200rpms, my exhaust is pouring whiteish smoke and smoke is coming from around the turbo. Still have cats but no air pump, egr, or acv. Also, went to check coolant after I shut it down. Wasn't hot but there was pressure. I opened the top cap slightly and heard air rushing out and then coolant leaked around the cap and I closed it back up. It's not even hot. What's going on??

RETed 10-18-03 03:28 PM

The turbo, when left to sit alone by itself for a long time, will tend to smoke once it's running again. Just make sure the engine isn't ingesting coolant. I find that the turbo should stop smoking after about 10 minutes at high idle to burn off all the crap it soaks up.



-Ted

fstrnyou 10-18-03 03:42 PM

Well, I found the reason why there was pressure in the coolant system with cold water on top... for some reason, I'm not getting any coolant flow. I was advised to install a new thermostat per the instructions with the motor. The way I figure it with no coolant at all, with the thermostat in, I poured in 4.5 quarts of antifreeze and then topped off the radiator with water. Then began pouring water into the top cap. I had three quarts left to put in when the top cap filled up. Anyway, seems the thermostat wasn't letting any coolant into the motor at all. It sealed the air in the motor so no coolant could flow up from the bottom when I added coolant to the radiator. So...I'm letting the engine cool now and will pour in water with the thermostat removed to fill the block. Hopefully the motor isn't fried. I took it around the block (with apparently no coolant) and the temp guage quickly made it's way to the top. I turned the motor off and coasted home. I relieved the pressure in the system, removed the thermostat housing and thermostat and noticed no coolant in there at all. So I'll give it another try later.

Craig the NOOB

I need to take a writing class. Seems I have a cronological order problem. Sorry for the hard read.

myfc3srx7 10-20-03 03:31 AM

i have the same problem with my s4.
it smokes blue at idle but is sweet under load
have had the turbo seals done as well but still the same
smokey prob.i have done about 8000ks on new engine and turbo with regular oil changes.motor has run sweet the hole time except the smoke.so i just put up with it smoking it but it is annoying.who did your rebuild and turbo. i am also in nz

kiwiart 10-20-03 07:24 AM

i'm in christchurch , where are you at ?? what turbo you running ?

myfc3srx7 10-20-03 11:22 PM

also in chch, standerd turbo.
today on the way to work i was just cruzin along stoped
at a stop sign and a shit load of smoke pissed out.got to work and poped the hood to find oil cummin out my bov gave it a few revs and it was pissen out.so i think the seals have gone in turbo. engine still runs ok drove home f#$ken slow just to be safe getten looked at tomoro keep u posted .
ps what colours your car what mags might have seen it around .

kiwiart 10-21-03 11:22 PM

glad you got yours sorted , mines all good now had to adjust air flow meter , very touchy things , the cars green with black sixteens. might c ya round.


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