nooob help
Okay here's the deal I jst got a 87 rx7 with 180k miles that been parked for about a yr the guy told me it started to smoke and he jst parked it. My problem is now I'm trying to get it started I'm getting spark but no gas the fuel pump when out I'm using starter fuild jst to get it started but its not happening I'm getting compression .......any ideas?? Oh yea its a 13b na
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Get a new fuel pump... Stop with the ether.
Ether (starting fluid) blows up... gasoline burns. Take a lighter and hold it infront of the can of ether and give it a squirt... That giant flame ball you shoot out thats what your putting in your engine. So stop it; your apex seals will thank you later. lol Your injectors are positioned by Mazda R&D to start the car and deliver fuel properly when the fuel pump is working. Hence new fuel pump = running car. |
Alrite lol I guess ima get a new fuel pump and try that
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Originally Posted by azfc
(Post 11060370)
Alrite lol I guess ima get a new fuel pump and try that
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For reals 100 buxs down the street
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anyone gonna tell this guy to change his fuel filter?..fresh gas?..clean the fuel pump sock?
By the way,you are getting gas to the Pump.It sits in gas..it just isn't getting to the engine.!! |
Originally Posted by misterstyx69
(Post 11060858)
anyone gonna tell this guy to change his fuel filter?..fresh gas?..clean the fuel pump sock?
By the way,you are getting gas to the Pump.It sits in gas..it just isn't getting to the engine.!! |
Lol when I buy a fuel pump I plane on cleaning the tank and freash fuel filter ....
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Originally Posted by azfc
(Post 11061310)
Lol when I buy a fuel pump I plane on cleaning the tank and freash fuel filter ....
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Lol those damm rats....
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Update......new fuel pump got the car started smokes like a bitch blows white smoke from the exhaust....any help?
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Well at least she's running now 8-)
Sounds like an exhaust leak or a hella lean condition. Have you run a can of seafoam through the machine yet? |
No not yet I jst got done running it for awhile not smoking as much jst idles around 2grand
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Originally Posted by azfc
(Post 11073099)
No not yet I jst got done running it for awhile not smoking as much jst idles around 2grand
"clears up smoke... smooths rough idle" - Seafoam :nod: |
Compression test it and stop spending money on extra things. at 180k, sitting around for a year or more, and tons of smoke whenever you start it, a compression test is the first thing i would do just to get it out of the way.
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The first thing I would suspect is oil control ring seals. If nothing else clears the smoke that is what it is and it means the engine needs to be split apart. At 180K miles compression could still be high enough to make it run but a split O ring in an oil control ring spells doom. If you do split the engine expect 50% of the parts to be junk.
If you do decide to try a rebuild get a couple engines to tear apart first. Pick through the parts you have and find the best stuff, measure, measure, measure. Then yank the engine out of the car. If done on a budget you can throw one together for well under a grand. |
Originally Posted by Qingdao
(Post 11074845)
Like you just named the symptoms that the bottle of seafoam reads it cures :-P
"clears up smoke... smooths rough idle" - Seafoam :nod: yea i might try that my other buddy of mine told me to do that as well |
Originally Posted by Vortes
(Post 11075018)
Compression test it and stop spending money on extra things. at 180k, sitting around for a year or more, and tons of smoke whenever you start it, a compression test is the first thing i would do just to get it out of the way.
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Originally Posted by jgrewe
(Post 11075077)
The first thing I would suspect is oil control ring seals. If nothing else clears the smoke that is what it is and it means the engine needs to be split apart. At 180K miles compression could still be high enough to make it run but a split O ring in an oil control ring spells doom. If you do split the engine expect 50% of the parts to be junk.
If you do decide to try a rebuild get a couple engines to tear apart first. Pick through the parts you have and find the best stuff, measure, measure, measure. Then yank the engine out of the car. If done on a budget you can throw one together for well under a grand. hmm well i wanna rebuild my motor if its bad but im having trouble finding parts or a rebuild kit ....... i was also thinking about buying a swap from a website but i dnt know any |
Originally Posted by azfc
(Post 11075476)
i wanted to compression test my motor but i read somewhere that u need one jst for rotarys that its different from others
I kind of jumped the gun saying compression test, it for sure is a good test to do, but may not diagnose your exact engine problems. Pressure testing the cooling system and testing it for exhaust gasses would be good things to test first. |
Seafoam is a gift to any motor. I sell parts for a living and that is what I tell people getting a new to them vehicle, it will help a lot.
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You guys are like super quick to say a motor needs rebuilding.
How does white smoke mean the engine needs rebuilding or has a loss of compression? Maybe if there was a hint of coolent in the exhaust... :scratch: |
Coolant leaking into exhaust would also warrant a rebuild, so its not entirely THAT far of a jump to assume rebuild.
To OP- Atkins rotary, pineapple racing, rotary aviation all have, or should have, rebuild kits for purchase. If you crack the engine open, at the very least you will need a full soft seal kit. AT 180k it would be wise to replace apex seals as well. If you are on a budget, it might be cheaper to buy a running n/a engine off someone thays doing a swap or something. |
Originally Posted by Qingdao
(Post 11075905)
You guys are like super quick to say a motor needs rebuilding.
How does white smoke mean the engine needs rebuilding or has a loss of compression? Maybe if there was a hint of coolent in the exhaust... :scratch: In an older engine the O rings can get hard and lose their sealing capacity, particularly if the engine has been sitting or if it has been run hot. |
Anyone know any good az shops
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