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Graham7 07-26-15 10:36 PM

High rpms..??
 
So I've started my swap up finally and it climbs to 4,000 and more rpms. I turn it off when it gets there cause the motor hasn't run in a while. Do they all do this? New to the game. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

DC5Daniel 07-27-15 08:48 AM

High rpms..??
 
It's normal for a 3k warmup if the accelerate warmup system is intact and working. However, 4k+ would lead me to believe you've got other things out going on (timing, TPS, vacuum leaks, etc.). Have you messed with any of these things yet?

Graham7 07-27-15 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by DC5Daniel (Post 11946315)
It's normal for a 3k warmup if the accelerate warmup system is intact and working. However, 4k+ would lead me to believe you've got other things out going on (timing, TPS, vacuum leaks, etc.). Have you messed with any of these things yet?

I still need to set timing and I'll check all vacuum lines. And TPS I haven't touched. Should I set my yellow line and my CAS up again and start there and see if that helps?

RotaryEvolution 07-27-15 09:52 AM

or sticking throttle

Graham7 07-27-15 11:11 AM

[QUOTE="Lyger;11946340"]or sticking throttle[/QUOTE

The peddle isn't down and it's not open. Can this still happen tho?

diabolical1 07-27-15 01:17 PM

yes. it can still happen. check the linkage on the throttle body itself.

my guess is you have a vacuum leak somewhere.

RotaryEvolution 07-27-15 03:30 PM

if its a stock AFM system car then a vacuum leak usually results in an RPM drop and idle hunt if its bad enough. advanced timing can cause idle to speed up as well but not by more than a few hundred RPMs. a sticking thermowax can also raise the idle but not to 4k by itself without the AWS activated first.

id start with throttle linkage, since it seems the most likely problem.

Graham7 07-27-15 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by Lyger (Post 11946536)
if its a stock AFM system car then a vacuum leak usually results in an RPM drop and idle hunt if its bad enough. advanced timing can cause idle to speed up as well but not by more than a few hundred RPMs. a sticking thermowax can also raise the idle but not to 4k by itself without the AWS activated first. id start with throttle linkage, since it seems the most likely problem.


It's a street ported turbo with emissions removed. I don't have the AFM hooked up either...

RotaryEvolution 07-27-15 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by Graham7 (Post 11946550)
It's a street ported turbo with emissions removed. I don't have the AFM hooked up either...

what engine management are you running?

Graham7 07-27-15 10:01 PM

Stock ECU

DC5Daniel 07-28-15 05:41 AM

High rpms..??
 

Originally Posted by Graham7
Stock ECU

How is it even running at all? The car should die after startup with no AFM activity detected.

lduley 07-28-15 06:10 AM

High rpms..??
 

Originally Posted by DC5Daniel
How is it even running at all? The car should die after startup with no AFM activity detected.

^this

Graham7 07-28-15 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by DC5Daniel (Post 11946815)
How is it even running at all? The car should die after startup with no AFM activity detected.

I do not know but it is😳 so I take it it is dumb of me not having that?

RotaryEvolution 07-28-15 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by Graham7 (Post 11946854)
I do not know but it is😳 so I take it it is dumb of me not having that?

without the AFM the computer won't know how much fuel the engine needs, so yeah, surprised it even runs for more than a few seconds without it on the car.

Graham7 07-28-15 08:43 AM

[QUOTE="Lyger;11946860"] without the AFM the computer won't know how much fuel the engine needs, so yeah, surprised it even runs for more than a few seconds without it on the car.[/QUOTE


So would that explain why it's throwing so much fuel in for 4,000 rpms...?

RotaryEvolution 07-28-15 09:21 AM

[QUOTE=Graham7;11946868]

Originally Posted by Lyger (Post 11946860)
without the AFM the computer won't know how much fuel the engine needs, so yeah, surprised it even runs for more than a few seconds without it on the car.[/QUOTE


So would that explain why it's throwing so much fuel in for 4,000 rpms...?

anything is possible if a certain combination of issues exist.

but with everything proper, no, the car would stall due to a lack of fuel without the AFM installed.

Graham7 07-28-15 12:43 PM


Ok so the TPS was responsible for the 4,000 RPMS but now it is stalling just as you say. So now onto that with the AFM

DC5Daniel 07-28-15 03:15 PM

High rpms..??
 

Originally Posted by Graham7
Ok so the TPS was responsible for the 4,000 RPMS but now it is stalling just as you say. So now onto that with the AFM

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