theres about $100 difference between em, if you get accesroies to make the mt have the e6x features.

point and click is hard in a moving car, yea i'm used to it too, but the dos is faster

mike

 

As I said earlier, I can't see the point of blowing a bunch of money on a new ECU if you're going to use 15yo sensors. Sensors are the source of 99% of EFI problems, so the last thing I'd want while installing and tuning a new ECU is the possibilty of an unreliable sensor.

And I highly doubt any S4 owner is going to shed a tear over losing the stock TPS.

 

There are quick key's in the Microtech Software that make it a little easier. I like to use the matrix table to tune, but I know others hate that. I really thing the software choice comes tdown to preference. I agree on the price point. It might even be closer than $100. A real selling point for me when I bought it was price, at that time is was considerable cheaper, currency played a big roll in that.

 

For that same reason, Is why I used my new s4 TPS (mounted on my s5 TPS plate) and new Water Temp Sensor. I do plan on getting a new Air Temp Sensor too, whenever. Probably springtime.

 

the microtech is point and click persay...........but umm yeah.......it makes your laptop function as a hand controller........why in the world would they program it like that !!

somethings just don't make sense to me

 

Not always. Like I said if you tune using the matrix table the hand controler style is eliminated.

 

What I'm stumped on Is the bar displayed on the top of LCD screen Handset. What's It's function?

 

well you are the only person that tunes like that lol

 

I also usually use the matrix table, I have heard rumor of there being a "map trace" in the matrix table but I haven't been able to find it.

Daniel

 

Users with a Wolf 3d V3 seem to use the matrix table as well. Having not used the Haltech software to actually tune a car, I can't comment on it's ease of use, but the matrix table seems to work well.

 

actually i shouldn't have typed that but ah well....... most people use the handset so you can't do the matrix table thing

 

allright,
Instead of starting up another thread I will simply try and use this one,
I am torn betweent he two ecus as follows;
Microtech LT-12,
$900.00 USD
Inlcudes support for,
WB02,
BAC,
stock sensors,
comes with;
flying lead harness,
2.5bar MAP sensor

and the new
Haltech E6X,
$1095.00 + $58.00(3bar MAP sensor)
comes with flying lead harness,
TPS,
Water temp sensro,
Intake temp sensor,
Map sensor (extra $$$)
Fuse block,
Closed loop operations,
WBO2

Now can anybody convince me one way or another,
I have owned an LT-8 already but am selling it ot my freind for his Turbo Conversion, I liked it very much simplistic and good for what I needed at the time but now want MORE MORE MORE!!!

 

What is wrong with keeping the LT-8?

 

I will eventually want to do 20b! lt-8 wont do it the way I want it done! so choices lt-12 or E6X/k!

Plus my buddy is going to buy it from me for almost what it cost me! but he is going to keep the maps that are in there, his setup will be similar to mine when done so minimal tunning will be done!

 

The E6X and E6K will not run split ignition timing, if that is what you mean. You will need (listed from least to most expensive) a Microtech LTX-12, Wolf3DV4 Plus, Haltech E11, Electromotive TEC3, or Motec M800 if you want split timing on a 20B.

Make sure he is very careful if directly loading your maps. Sometimes there is a bigger difference in engines than what you would think. See this link:
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...hreadid=220817

 

The E6X does do split Ignition Timming on the 13b right? or was I misinformed?

And thanks for the thread evil, I am doing the turbo conversion for my freind I will make sure that evrything checks out!

 

Yes, and so does the LT8.

 

Evil Aviator, you are a funny funny man.
But From what I have read the E6X will run a 20b with split timming and the LT-8 Will not! I had one It worked Great don't get me wrong. But now I was drivability and reliability. I would like to get into my car and drive it without having to have my laptop handy! With my lt-8 i was constantly adjusting it to get it just right! and then the next day you guessed it! I would also like the closed loop function! All thaugh the same results can be had without it! It is definitely a plus for me! there are also all the extra inputs and outputs that i wish to make use of!

But the price of the lt-12 is appealing!

 

the e6k/x will not run ignition split on a 3 rotor. the e6k has 5 outputs total, 2 for fuel and 3 for spark, to run split timing on a 20b you need 6 outputs.

mike

 

I just got an email back from Haltech and the e6x does not do split ifnition timming for a 20b nor is it an option!
But that is still never the less a tugofwar between the e6x and the lt-12!

 

Hehehe, OK, so now we are both on the same sheet of music.

BTW, unless the new E6X has some strange issues that I don't know about, it should run a 20B with 0 split timing by emulating a 6-cylinder engine.

IMO the E6X is not much of an upgrade from the LT8. I can understand the LTX-12 if you want to move up to a 3-rotor engine with split timing and you just want a very basic, inexpensive EMS.

I highly recommend that you buy an EMS with a closed-loop O2 function so that you will finally understand how little it will help you.

 

Thanks Duely noted!
I think I have made up my mind but not certain on that! with the haltech i do get brand new sensors, but with the microtech I still use the stock ones! this is so far the only thing other than the possible 20b thing i am still debating!

Thank Evil for your help!

 

if you want to put a haltech on the 20b forget the e6 anything and get an e11, its soooooooo much better than the e6k 20b its not even funny.

mike

 

Do you see any market for the E6 nowadays? IMO the LT8 is the best thing going for a bargain-basement EMS, and the Wolf3DV4 and Haltech E11 are far superior to the E6 and are only a bit more expensive. I have a feeling that Haltech will drop the E6 from the product line pretty soon.

 

actually the the e6x updates let it run sequential efi and waste spark at the same time on a 4 cylinder, and they are gonna have a windoze version soon.

the e6x doesnt have a split timing map anymore so i'm wondering if they intend to have the e11 be the rotary ecu.

mike