Chip or Standalone?
Would I be better off buying a Chip that would eliminate the AFM(MAF Sensor), as well as hold rmp/ hold throttle.
Or is my only option a Full Standalone Unit? Im just looking into eliminating the Air Flow Meter / Mass Air flow Sensor. |
yep standalone is you one and only choice
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ok..
Originally Posted by flaco
(Post 10925976)
yep standalone is you one and only choice
Not really feeling like getting a full setup, is their anything on the market thats short and sweet, not big into massive tune. Stockie boy. |
Let's try this from another angle... what are you trying to accomplish?
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Well
Originally Posted by Evil Aviator
(Post 10927638)
Let's try this from another angle... what are you trying to accomplish?
But only way I know off is to get a MAP 3BAR GM Sensor which requires a Standalone. Is Their another way? |
I still have no idea what you are trying to accomplish, but here goes...
Originally Posted by cvcruiser@hotmail.com
(Post 10929063)
Well, just don't care for Mass Air Flow sensors give me problems just looking for something to delete it.
With appropriate add-ons and tuning, the stock AFM is good for about 400bhp. Many people like to keep the AFM because it compensates for slight differences in engine wear, unlike a standalone EMS or carburetor which must be retuned as the engine's volumetric efficiency changes. However, a standalone EMS is an excellent upgrade for those who are willing to spend a lot of money to gain maximum performance from their engine, regardless of the hp level.
Originally Posted by cvcruiser@hotmail.com
(Post 10929063)
Is Their another way?
- Convert to a speed-density (RPM vs. MAP) system with a standalone EMS. - Convert to an alpha-N (TPS vs. RPM) system with a standalone EMS (not recommended for turbocharged engines). - Convert to a carburetor with a carb kit (not recommended for turbocharged engines). |
Why do you not recommend AlphaN for turbocharged?
Originally Posted by Evil Aviator
(Post 10929229)
- Convert to an alpha-N (TPS vs. RPM) system with a standalone EMS (not recommended for turbocharged engines).
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Originally Posted by EB Turbo
(Post 10929640)
Why do you not recommend AlphaN for turbocharged?
A better solution is to use a speed-density system because a MAP sensor is a very good indicator for turbo boost, and therefore makes a much better primary sensor. The TPS can then be used as a secondary sensor for acceleration enrichment and deceleration enleanment. Typical use: Mass Airflow - Street Car Speed-Density - Turbocharged High-Performance Car Alpha-N - Non-Turbo Race Car |
The turbo opperates independantly of the throttle position just the same. Manifold pressure is just as a poor indication of air entering the engine.
You need to use both sensors. Not just throttle position for accel and development purposes. AlphaN is the prefered method for professional tuners. EB Turbo
Originally Posted by Evil Aviator
(Post 10929799)
The turbocharger operates independently of the throttle position. Therefore, the TPS is a poor indicator of the amount of air entering a turbocharged automotive engine.
A better solution is to use a speed-density system because a MAP sensor is a very good indicator for turbo boost, and therefore makes a much better primary sensor. The TPS can then be used as a secondary sensor for acceleration enrichment and deceleration enleanment. Typical use: Mass Airflow - Street Car Speed-Density - Turbocharged High-Performance Car Alpha-N - Non-Turbo Race Car |
ok...
Well I geuss that answered the questions what could I do otherwise.
Well for me it's eather replace and have same problems or buy a standalone... Only standalone I have any knowledge on in the Power FC, and mircotech anything else is quite new and unknown to me. Any good doller value ones out their that someone would recommened. |
Get something that you will be able to get support for. call the manufacture, call the dealer, tell then what you want to do and listen to what they have to say. if you have a hard time getting a hold of them or are unsure of the things they tell you, look into a different system.
Lots of people will tell you "X" is better then "Y", or don't get "Z" cause it sucks. Even if it is the best ECU on the market, if it doesn't do what you want it to or you cant get support for it, don't use it. Systems you should look into are AEM EMS4, AEM EMS Series II, Haltech P1000, Haltech Sprint/RE 500, Any MoTec. EB Turbo
Originally Posted by cvcruiser@hotmail.com
(Post 10930431)
Well I geuss that answered the questions what could I do otherwise.
Well for me it's eather replace and have same problems or buy a standalone... Only standalone I have any knowledge on in the Power FC, and mircotech anything else is quite new and unknown to me. Any good doller value ones out their that someone would recommened. |
Originally Posted by cvcruiser@hotmail.com
(Post 10930431)
Any good doller value ones out their that someone would recommened.
Originally Posted by cvcruiser@hotmail.com
(Post 10930431)
Only standalone I have any knowledge on in the Power FC, and mircotech
http://banzai-racing.com/store/S5_PFC_adapter.html We have sub-forums for those and other EMS products if you want to browse or ask questions about them on this forum. However, I would still suggest that you talk to a tuner/dealer before buying anything. https://www.rx7club.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=37 |
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