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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 10:41 PM
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Simple question: Does using different size wheels (ex. 17" in the front and 15" in the back")have a major effect on the car while drifting? I'm curious because I was thinking of getting a set of FN01R-Cs (17x8) for every day use and having decent set of tires on those. Then once open practice days come around, take off the rear wheels and throw on my stock wheels (15x6.5, S4 GTU wheels) in the back with crappy tires just to burn up... Anyone have any experience running a similar set-up? or
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actually near the beginning of me owning an FC i was running some nice 17" wheels in the front and stocks in the rear because i had only painted/gotten tires for the fronts. it was a bit bouncy and unstable on the street to be honest. i thought it was just because the front wheels were like 2" wider than stock, making them stick to grooves a little more, but once i got the rear wheels on the ride was just like normal again.

don't know how it would be for drifting, and actually i was planning on doing that too since im hitting up 2 drift events within 24 hours of eachother, and no time for new tires in between!
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 11:50 PM
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It'll induce grip, which is the opposite of what you want. The opposite staggered setup induces oversteer IIRC. I haven't researched in a while, and I don't drift my fc.
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 02:01 AM
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^word i was planning on just using my advans as a set of wheels, and then my stocks as a set of wheels, not mixing them

it was really awkward handling with the 8 wide in front 6 wide in rear
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Tatakai
^word i was planning on just using my advans as a set of wheels, and then my stocks as a set of wheels, not mixing them

it was really awkward handling with the 8 wide in front 6 wide in rear
Well, what if I was to run a set of FD wheels (16x8) in the rear?
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 09:07 PM
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not tryn to thread jack but wut if someone ran Fd wheels with spacers and low pro's in the front and stock vert rims on rear?
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 09:37 PM
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Why not spend $100 for 2 more FD wheels for the rear and use the same wheels front and back for drifting.
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo II Rotor
Why not spend $100 for 2 more FD wheels for the rear and use the same wheels front and back for drifting.
That's probably what I'm gonna end up doing...
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 05:37 AM
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16s are good wheels to chuck on the back to begin with..

not too small, but still small enough that tyres are cheap..

i run 17x9 and the front and 18x10.5 on the back now...
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Old Mar 29, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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Instead of the stock wheels I thinking Im going to get some mustang GT wheels because they would be the same size as the FN01s...
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Old Mar 29, 2008 | 08:08 PM
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I don't think it'll have that many difference.... I don't really like the Mustang GT wheels though... what about some Enkei or something??
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Old Mar 29, 2008 | 11:19 PM
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i got 4 fd rims, and have 2 vert rims.... i just wanna get 15's for free from my job instead of shelling out some $$ for 16's lol.
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Originally Posted by rx7fan1903
I don't think it'll have that many difference.... I don't really like the Mustang GT wheels though... what about some Enkei or something??
I was gonna run the stang wheels in the back.
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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 09:25 AM
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It's not going to matter at all. It won't "induce" grip, that's depending on the tire you pick. If the overall diameter is the same as your 17"'s then the only difference is the sidewall will flex slightly on the tire, but that also depends on your psi in the rear. Truley it won't matter much.
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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 09:42 PM
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^^ good thats wut i thought just waiting for someone to say something along the lines of Overall Diameter. Just match the diameter... Thanks. Points fo joo
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Originally Posted by K!NCH
Simple question: Does using different size wheels (ex. 17" in the front and 15" in the back")have a major effect on the car while drifting? I'm curious because I was thinking of getting a set of FN01R-Cs (17x8) for every day use and having decent set of tires on those. Then once open practice days come around, take off the rear wheels and throw on my stock wheels (15x6.5, S4 GTU wheels) in the back with crappy tires just to burn up... Anyone have any experience running a similar set-up? or


eventually you will be able to tell the difference. but for now, burn every tire you can get you hands on. Once you become more experienced you will know what works and what doesnt as well as what you like and do not like. During practice days i bring as many tires/rims as I can fit (from 16" to 18"). Besides, any seat time is good seat time. When I want to get serious then i might give a **** what I want on the rear. and even when i care i am only worried about the sidewall/stretch. As long as the rear doesnt have a big floppy tire hangin over the rim, the tire will, for the most part, be predictable during transitions.

example 215 on a 9" rim = good
245's on an 8" rim = fail.

Without some stretch, I think it feels like driving on a sponge or a mattress. the suspension feels good but the sidewalls give out and the car has alot of roll and generally handles pretty gay. And i dont mean you need retarded "zilvia" style stretch, even like a 245 on a 9" rim should be ok ( IMO)


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Old Apr 11, 2008 | 04:45 AM
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oh yeah, and running a smaller tire/rim is going to shorten your final drive ratio, which could help in tighter areas and the opposite is true for larger diameter rim/tire combinations
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Old Apr 12, 2008 | 10:27 AM
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Well I finally got some wheels, 16x7 in the front and 16x8 in the rear. Would running 15"s with a bigger tire in the back be and leaving the 16x7 in the front be ok?
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honestly if you want to run different sizes it's best to run bigger in the rear, especially for drifting (n/a especially)

after driving around with a 17 in the front and 15 in the rear, trust me, you want bigger in the rear. the car was really unstable
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Old Apr 12, 2008 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Tatakai
honestly if you want to run different sizes it's best to run bigger in the rear, especially for drifting (n/a especially)

after driving around with a 17 in the front and 15 in the rear, trust me, you want bigger in the rear. the car was really unstable
Thats what I imagined. I found some 16x7 S14 wheels that I might pick up to use in the rear...
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Old Apr 17, 2008 | 02:57 AM
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i used to run DSM wheels on the front and vert wheels on the back I didnt see a whole lot of differnce. a little more bouncy maybe but thats about it.
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it looks like youre NA, at the last event i was running a set of 16 x 7 with cheap 205/55/16 tires. that seemed to work well for me. i would prefer sliding with 15's since cheaper on tires and a lot easier to break traction, however the 16 x 7s give you a little more control.

Ive also tried to run 16 x 8 with 225/50/16. this set up seemed to grip a lot more and cause the car to understeer. youll still be able to hold an angle but itll be more shallow.

itll also depend on your tire choice.

hope that helps.
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Old May 6, 2008 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by T FC3 H
it looks like youre NA, at the last event i was running a set of 16 x 7 with cheap 205/55/16 tires. that seemed to work well for me. i would prefer sliding with 15's since cheaper on tires and a lot easier to break traction, however the 16 x 7s give you a little more control.

Ive also tried to run 16 x 8 with 225/50/16. this set up seemed to grip a lot more and cause the car to understeer. youll still be able to hold an angle but itll be more shallow.

itll also depend on your tire choice.

hope that helps.
I've decided to stick with my 15s for drifting and I'm going to get 17s for everyday.
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Old May 7, 2008 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by K!NCH
I've decided to stick with my 15s for drifting and I'm going to get 17s for everyday.
thats a good choice, at least till you get the hang of things and start wanting to go faster. the extra size will help stability and control. just get used to getting it sliding and maintaining an angle... then youll feel when you need an upgrade.
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Old May 21, 2008 | 05:13 AM
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can any one give me a web sight where they have rims for a 1984 rx-7?
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