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PISTON KILLA! 05-23-12 11:54 PM

Anyone see that super angle kit they got coming out soon? Super insane
http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_plu...topic.php?9099

FC_fan 05-24-12 12:21 PM

^ Amped for FC control arms. they look a little flimsy though, but I'm no engineer. I'm surprised there are no control arms for the FC on the market already with all the guys drifting them these day. they have had knuckles for a little while, might be changing their design now for those control arms though. nice find bro, I asked Dan through email about links such as rear toe arms and a better way to control rear camber. I was told that they were looking into things but nothing was really being actively developed yet lol. this was like middle of last year.

Comicartist-you want to keep it like that and then maybe even lower it more after you drive on them? it looks almost undrivable on the street as is. you will be scraping your exhaust off it looks like. I understand hard park stance but driving...well, good luck. you must have some smooth flowing roads to get away with that lol.

EDIT: after rereading that comicartist, it sounded like I was being a dick. I wasn't trying to be. jus sayin' ya know. go hard if your roads allow it dude.

ComicArtist 05-24-12 01:15 PM

Frame rails actually have good clearance. About 2" right now, which is way more than what Im used to. My S30 that I daily only has about 3/4" clearance. And I'm not running that exhaust.

FC_fan 05-24-12 06:42 PM

ya, I have rb header and presilencer. hangs notoriously low. Do what you do guy, get away with dope stance for all of us who can't. lol

PISTON KILLA! 05-25-12 01:45 AM


Originally Posted by FC_fan (Post 11101450)
^ Amped for FC control arms. they look a little flimsy though, but I'm no engineer. I'm surprised there are no control arms for the FC on the market already with all the guys drifting them these day. they have had knuckles for a little while, might be changing their design now for those control arms though. nice find bro, I asked Dan through email about links such as rear toe arms and a better way to control rear camber. I was told that they were looking into things but nothing was really being actively developed yet lol. this was like middle of last year.

Comicartist-you want to keep it like that and then maybe even lower it more after you drive on them? it looks almost undrivable on the street as is. you will be scraping your exhaust off it looks like. I understand hard park stance but driving...well, good luck. you must have some smooth flowing roads to get away with that lol.

EDIT: after rereading that comicartist, it sounded like I was being a dick. I wasn't trying to be. jus sayin' ya know. go hard if your roads allow it dude.

Yeah I'm pretty pumped to see where it goes. I see myself buying that kit once its ready to be sold.

RadioX7 08-04-12 02:08 AM

Can someone send a link with spring rates or a web site were thwy sale them for the fc's or info for the fc's I'm not reading 7 pages on my phone lol

ComicArtist 08-04-12 06:40 AM

PBM is the only place you can order them. Spring rates are 8/10k but you can get a 6k spring for the rear and put the 8k up front.

AngelsAndBombs 08-04-12 05:29 PM

I think the 10/8 is perfect. Im pretty damn low and running about half way stiff and never bottom out. Plus, they ride amazingly.

m0nst3r10 10-02-12 04:43 AM

Im running godspeed coulovers., havnt completely ran thm on streets or track yet tho.

m0nst3r10 10-02-12 04:44 AM

Im running godspeed coilovers., havnt completely ran thm on street or track yet tho.

whereiswaldo 11-13-12 06:27 PM

I'm also in the same boat as for as some good drift coilovers ! Money is no object, so I was thinking either D2 Racing or K Sport. I'm looking to get these on my FD3S!

ComicArtist 11-13-12 06:34 PM

If money is no object, you shouldn't be looking at D2 and KSport.

whereiswaldo 11-13-12 06:36 PM

I was thinking K Sport Kontrol Slide Drift coilovers, any opinions on K Sportt?

RotaryRocket8 11-13-12 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by ComicArtist
If money is no object, you shouldn't be looking at D2 and KSport.

Right?

ComicArtist 11-13-12 06:39 PM

Like I said, if money isn't an issue, you should be looking at like Tien or Stance. Parts Shop Max is about the only good coilover in the $1k range, but they don't make them for FD's. Check out Stance GR+, you won't regret it.

whereiswaldo 11-13-12 06:40 PM

Well thats why I'm here asaking for advice on the right coilover for drifting.

whereiswaldo 11-13-12 06:41 PM

Ok awesome. Ill look into Stance

whereiswaldo 11-13-12 07:32 PM

Is Stance made from better quality versus D2 or KSport?

ComicArtist 11-13-12 07:45 PM

Yes.

FC_fan 11-17-12 11:22 PM

money no object? Ohlins. now, dialing in settings on those is a bit harder as they have a lot more features then most (independent adjustments like rebound and stuff, etc) but getting a decent drift setup shouldn't be hard. depends on what you want out of the car. PBM's are pretty good, for drifting and some street duty. Ohlins are more for serious track duty but they have the adjustments to gain advantages out of them. Overkill in a drift car probably.

k sport. no, I did some research as well. for FC's and other models on k sports. the general consensis is that they aren't worth what you pay for the performance you get. a lot of 240 guys hate k sports after they moved on to something better (hks/pbm/stance). Lots of people like stance though. not to much bad about them and they are stateside. I have to say though that I love my Old style PBM's (the orange/yellow version), my car handles pretty well around corners and drifting is great. the new style is much improved it seems when it comes to regular street driving and I am sure the performance is still there and improved as well.

slowgxl 11-18-12 10:40 AM

http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_plu...ic.php?9099.20

Anyone seen this yet...multi link rear end.

d_clardy 11-18-12 10:54 AM

Anybody running the trak pro coilovers?

d_clardy 11-18-12 10:57 AM

I'm thinking about running the stage three. They retail for Around 1500.

FC_fan 11-18-12 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by slowgxl (Post 11290097)
Forums /

Anyone seen this yet...multi link rear end.

Maybe I am misunderstanding you but those are just replacement units for what we already have in our FC's. It's not "multi link", thats what 240's have. we have a semi trailing arm setup. If you just meant that those are multiple links available then please disregard. It's just that some might think you are talking about doing away with the trailing arms and putting in a multi link setup.

slowgxl 11-19-12 05:54 PM

Fc fan: thanks for the heads up. Just did some reading there making new replacement parts for the oem stuff.

bewst12psi 11-19-12 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by ComicArtist (Post 11285723)
Like I said, if money isn't an issue, you should be looking at like Tien or Stance. Parts Shop Max is about the only good coilover in the $1k range, but they don't make them for FD's. Check out Stance GR+, you won't regret it.

This.

FC_fan 11-20-12 12:18 AM

fwiw, I've heard a handful of FC owners not like tien coilovers. mainly the super drifts I think. main issue was ride quality and performance, one person even went as far as to say that his k sports on his 240 rode better (which is saying a lot). Generally speaking though when considering all other makes and models, tien is usually very good but I have no experience with them in an FD. whatever you end up picking, try and get a consensus from drivers of the same chassis that have had them. best bet. Or just get stance as they seem to be great in everything. lol, srsly though.

K!NCH 11-20-12 01:00 AM

I have Tein Flex with the Super Drift spring rates. I love em.

RotaryRocket8 11-20-12 01:49 AM


Originally Posted by K!NCH
I have Tein Flex with the Super Drift spring rates. I love em.

Wow, with 240s there is a pretty big consensus on what's good...FCs seem to be a crap shoot. Everyone says something different.

I had JIC FLA2 for years and they were awesome

beachFC 11-20-12 11:36 AM

alright, I just got mine last night, and threw them on with 2 collars removed in front, and one removed in back.

and my FUCKING TIRE is scrubbing the inside of the fender well. not the fender. the very top point. i have seen peoples cars lower than mine, so what the fuck?

what did you guys do about this?

ComicArtist 11-20-12 12:49 PM

Get smaller wheels/tires

fcrotory 11-20-12 01:01 PM

Or better offset?

RadioX7 11-20-12 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by fcrotory (Post 11292287)
Or better offset?

there 17x9 +4 lol

RadioX7 11-20-12 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by beachFC (Post 11292189)
alright, I just got mine last night, and threw them on with 2 collars removed in front, and one removed in back.

and my FUCKING TIRE is scrubbing the inside of the fender well. not the fender. the very top point. i have seen peoples cars lower than mine, so what the fuck?

what did you guys do about this?

pix or it didnt happen lol

beachFC 11-20-12 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by RadioX7 (Post 11292301)
pix or it didnt happen lol

don't you have pictures from last night? hahaha

definitely not going smaller than 17's. thinking of a 215/35-17



faaaahk i pretty much lost my fuckin mind on the way to work today.. my front tires were smoking on the freeway haha!

handles good, just bumpsteers like a fuckin motherfucker. feels like my car is haunted by a steering ghost and shit

fcrotory 11-20-12 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by beachFC
alright, I just got mine last night, and threw them on with 2 collars removed in front, and one removed in back.

Do all the pbm guys remove collars? What's the point of this?

beachFC 11-20-12 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by fcrotory (Post 11292347)
Do all the pbm guys remove collars? What's the point of this?

collars get in the way of being gangster.

fcrotory 11-20-12 02:22 PM

Lol, tell that to your tires and bumpsteer. I can slam my friends ride to the same rub height without removing collars....and he's on the new style. Those threaded sleeves are very capable of low low...

ComicArtist 11-20-12 04:40 PM

That's weird. I'm on 215/40's on 17x9 +17's up front with no problems. I'm also tubbed though, that might have something to do with it.

beachFC 11-20-12 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by fcrotory (Post 11292359)
Lol, tell that to your tires and bumpsteer. I can slam my friends ride to the same rub height without removing collars....and he's on the new style. Those threaded sleeves are very capable of low low...

Bumpsteer, collars get in the way of being gangster.

I'm quite sure you don't understand how low the car is. unless your friend has like 50 series tires, there no way the coilovers are scrubbing tire with the collars still there.

& I'd much rather deal with bumpsteer than a 4x4 fc.


Originally Posted by ComicArtist (Post 11292486)
That's weird. I'm on 215/40's on 17x9 +17's up front with no problems. I'm also tubbed though, that might have something to do with it.

haha that DEFINITELY has something to do with it. wish I was tubbed </3 haha

fcrotory 11-20-12 06:13 PM

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beachFC 11-20-12 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by fcrotory (Post 11292580)
Well personally, I'd rather have a well performing car over any kind of bumpsteer or crap like that. But that's just me.

I mis read the statement about inner fender well. My friends was killing the outside of the 45 series tire and we were nowhere near maxed out.

well I have been pretty slammed for a while now, and have felt no difference then when i was on teins with like a 2 inch drop. the lowness doesn't get in the way much. look at comic artist's pics, he obviously still handles business with tucked 17's

fcrotory 11-20-12 06:21 PM

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I prefer performance over looks/bumpsteer/rubbing anyday. Thats just me. But all I do is drift my car. It's not something I cruise the street in. Don't get me wrong. I love slammed cars and I respect what your doing. I just figured from my experience with buddy's car. I never woulda thought you would have to pull collars. Here's his ride nowhere near maxed out. Had lots of thread front and back.


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It's prolly no where near as low as yours. But it's no 4x4. 17x8 0 offset(with spacers). 215/45.

fcrotory 11-20-12 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by beachFC

the lowness doesn't get in the way much. look at comic artist's pics, he obviously still handles business with tucked 17's

I've never heard him complain of bumpsteer, or tires rubbing. But I've also never seen him drift other than pics. I know cars can perform great slammed. Look at George's or buckys FCs. They make it work. It's all on how you set up your ride for how low your gonna go.

beachFC 11-20-12 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by fcrotory (Post 11292594)
I prefer performance over looks/bumpsteer/rubbing anyday. Thats just me. But all I do is drift my car. It's not something I cruise the street in. Don't get me wrong. I love slammed cars and I respect what your doing. I just figured from my experience with buddy's car. I never woulda thought you would have to pull collars. Here's his ride nowhere near maxed out. Had lots of thread front and back.


It's prolly no where near as low as yours. But it's no 4x4. 17x8 0 offset(with spacers). 215/45.

honestly I wish I wasn't into the low thing, it's such a pain in the ass. But every time someone asks "how do you even get anywhere?" it gives me a warm feeling inside, as well as a sense of accomplishment hahaha


Originally Posted by fcrotory (Post 11292601)
I've never heard him complain of bumpsteer, or tires rubbing. But I've also never seen him drift other than pics. I know cars can perform great slammed. Look at George's or buckys FCs. They make it work. It's all on how you set up your ride for how low your gonna go.

well a low FC is a low FC, and unless he has roll center correctable arms and all that mess, then we are in the same boat. & really the only bumpsteer i'm getting is forced by the damn tire hitting. with a smaller tire/smashed in fender well i'll be perfectly happy

fcrotory 11-20-12 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by beachFC

with a smaller tire/smashed in fender well i'll be perfectly happy

There ya go.

I wanna see pics of this sled. Post em up!! Lol

FC_fan 11-21-12 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by RotaryRocket8 (Post 11291876)
Wow, with 240s there is a pretty big consensus on what's good...FCs seem to be a crap shoot. Everyone says something different.

I had JIC FLA2 for years and they were awesome

I guess you're right. because I heard that JIC FLA2's are crap lol. guy was running a really old pair so moot point as they were probably at rebuild point.

ComicArtist 11-21-12 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by beachFC (Post 11292560)

haha that DEFINITELY has something to do with it. wish I was tubbed </3 haha

It's really not that hard. If you weld/know anyone that can weld, you can knock it out in a day with a trailer fender. It's harder if you have to use sheet metal, but that's also doable.


Originally Posted by beachFC (Post 11292588)
look at comic artist's pics, he obviously still handles business with tucked 17's

Thank you : )


Originally Posted by fcrotory (Post 11292601)
I've never heard him complain of bumpsteer, or tires rubbing. But I've also never seen him drift other than pics. I know cars can perform great slammed. Look at George's or buckys FCs. They make it work. It's all on how you set up your ride for how low your gonna go.

This. I will say, having slid slammed S-chassis, a slammed FC is much easier to drive than a slammed s-chassis. But we also know that our suspension is far superior to that of an s-chassis as well : D

My tires rub on my fenders and the top of the fender well in the rear. That's mainly because I have them set up super soft in the rear so I get a bit of squat. Honestly, making a slammed car perform well is more about your preload settings than height. When most people slam, they just crank up the preload as much as possible, which results in being wayy too stiff and a lot of hop. To get max traction, you need your preload pretty low.

That, and you just have to learn to drive a slammed car.

DR_Knight 11-21-12 07:43 PM

Running bn aero. 18x9 -1 up front. car's sideskirts are sitting about a little under a centimeter from the ground daily driven... with super steering angle knuckles, shine auto foresight fender reps, mazdatrix steering spacers and no rubbing issues. get a sledgehammer and get to work. no rubbing anywhere from lock-lock. took a while to figure it out. just use spraypaint if you dont care about the under carriage and see where it's rubbing off and hammer it.

and fitting the 18's was alot more difficult than fitting 17's by far

FC_fan 11-24-12 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by ComicArtist (Post 11293571)
But we also know that our suspension is far superior to that of an s-chassis as well : D

I thought the opposite was true. Multi link (240) may have a lot more connecting rods/links and what not if you want to go super low and have it handle well but stock for stock, I think that a semi trailing arm setup isn't ideal. the thing with 240's is that you need more aftermarket links that are designed to be low. not unlike FC's extended ball joints/LCA's. my .2, I know that FD guys have called FC suspension, and this is a quote, "archaic". lol

The only thing I hate is FC rear camber and how the adjustability on a low car really sucks. we have to use the lateral link which changes pinion angle at the same time or the individual adjusters which, for drifters, break a lot I hear.

comic artist, did you have pretty bad spring binding and memory steer with your current or old pbm's? Mine is pretty bad if I have to turn like 90 degrees slowly and then straighten. I've put 10k miles on my pbm's but I guess the pillow ball is still just too stiff. I'll be putting a roller style bearing on both ends of the spring to resolve this but just wondering. pbm told me it would go away with some driving but I daily it and turn quite a lot and its still just as bad as when I first installed.


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