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driftfcbuckey 01-31-11 07:00 PM

sweet, good info for sure! the availability of e-85 in other states is one of the main reasons why i dont want to mess with it not to mention the fact that it makes my eyes water heavily...

380-450 is plenty i dont want to risk my motor every run. i do like the reliability factor of the stock power levels, and i know it wont stay like that @ 450, but id like to get it as reliable as i can to make through each weekend.

haltech sprint-re is what i'm looking at getting. along with 4x 1000cc injectors. any suggestions on that setup? i feel the secondaries might be a little small, but ID injectors will make me miss XDC Round 1...

driftfcbuckey 01-31-11 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by Daviticus (Post 10445978)
Why not? Every Rebel station in Vegas has it at the pump. Here in Utah there are two E85 pumps, and tons of guys are running it including Brandon. :icon_tup:

i plan on going anywhere from LA, to englishtown NJ, to Florida this year if money permits, and i don't know how easy it would be to get E-85 out there. i dont like making things more difficult on me when it's already hard enough to find a rebel station when you need one. i don't want to have to plan out getting gas that hard.

sure i could buy a 55gal drum, and fill it up and take it with (HUGE fire hazzard) or i could fill up locally before i go out (more weight/strain on the truck/higher temps)

but even if it weren't for all of that, i still can't stand the smell of it. it makes me sneeze constantly, and makes my eyes water (why i dont know) but its like clockwork.

i dunno. call me old school, but race gas/pump gas just seems easier.... at worse case scenario each race track usually has race gas on tap. if not there's ALWAYS a gas station within a block-10mile radius.

when i show up to drive, i should only be worried about driving, and not stressing on finding e-85... :/

RotaryEvolution 01-31-11 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by red92vr4buckey (Post 10446086)
sweet, good info for sure! the availability of e-85 in other states is one of the main reasons why i dont want to mess with it not to mention the fact that it makes my eyes water heavily...

380-450 is plenty i dont want to risk my motor every run. i do like the reliability factor of the stock power levels, and i know it wont stay like that @ 450, but id like to get it as reliable as i can to make through each weekend.

haltech sprint-re is what i'm looking at getting. along with 4x 1000cc injectors. any suggestions on that setup? i feel the secondaries might be a little small, but ID injectors will make me miss XDC Round 1...

e-85 is considered pump gas since it's found at hybrid filling stations which has an octane rating of about 97 octane which has a detonation threshhold of ~27psi in rotary applications, C-16 i don't really feel like recalulating but it was around 50psi of boost, methanol has an octane rating around 100 which is good for about 30psi. i don't really run methanol as a straight fuel because it is pretty harsh on fuel system components and only really hardcore drag racers use it as a pump fuel so when i refer to methanol i refer to it as an auxiliary injectant like water injection but methanol burns and allows for more power versus a static knock suppressant like water which doesn't really add noticable power. for the best of both worlds i usually recommend 50%water/50% methanol blend for the auxiliary injection as i have been running it for years without any ill effects.

some people prefer straight water, some people prefer straight methanol, but methanol auxiliary injection isn't nearly as much of a knock safety buffer as water is. some people run up to and well beyond 30psi with straight water injection on 91 octane pump fuel, with methanol as a auxiliary injectant i wouldn't push more than about 22-23psi, many people have tried to push further and failed because auxiliary injection is not an accurate injectant as the fuel system fuel injectors are.

i don't really have alot of experience with haltechs as not many of my customers were running them so i can't really comment on the sprint. i haven't heard anything bad about the ID injectors so i wouldn't worry about that, and just about any haltech will be fine, just depends on which options you want/need it to do.

mikerbike 01-31-11 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by red92vr4buckey (Post 10444161)
i dont trust myself welding spindles yet...
i've seen too many cars die from shitty welds..

Mine have been on for a year now on both of my cars. I checked my daily for cracks a few times. Other than that, I've forgotten about them. *Knock on wood*

The first pair I welded with 220v gas and the second with 110v flux-core, both wire feed.

Daviticus 01-31-11 07:33 PM

I spaced your hopes of national competition, I figured it was staying local, my bad haha.

Nothing wrong with being old-school with fuel. Like you said, tracks usually have race gas on-tap, even if it is a few bucks more than normal.

driftfcbuckey 01-31-11 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by Daviticus (Post 10446173)
I spaced your hopes of national competition, I figured it was staying local, my bad haha.

Nothing wrong with being old-school with fuel. Like you said, tracks usually have race gas on-tap, even if it is a few bucks more than normal.

i'm just a noob on tuning/building stuff...
i like driving. building only when it's progressive. haha

wasn't trying to be a dick or anything, just explaining lol

Daviticus 01-31-11 08:09 PM

S'all good son. Do work, keep drifting fun.

And get sponsored by McDonalds. We're both lard-asses at heart, let's at least get the hookup on food.

driftfcbuckey 01-31-11 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by mikerbike (Post 10446151)
Mine have been on for a year now on both of my cars. I checked my daily for cracks a few times. Other than that, I've forgotten about them. *Knock on wood*

The first pair I welded with 220v gas and the second with 110v flux-core, both wire feed.

if i had a gas welder i'd be all for it. flux core status though idk... im sure it would work, but why chance it when there's $20+k invested + your life... i've had friends spindles come apart on the freeway and watched them straight pummel into krails, so i'd be scared to do it without gas, and especially without enough experience. that's why i only trust JTP, or Forrest to make spindles.
there's nothing wrong with doing things yourself, i just know my boundaries. lol

driftfcbuckey 01-31-11 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by Karack (Post 10446150)
e-85 is considered pump gas since it's found at hybrid filling stations which has an octane rating of about 97 octane which has a detonation threshhold of ~27psi in rotary applications, C-16 i don't really feel like recalulating but it was around 50psi of boost, methanol has an octane rating around 100 which is good for about 30psi. i don't really run methanol as a straight fuel because it is pretty harsh on fuel system components and only really hardcore drag racers use it as a pump fuel so when i refer to methanol i refer to it as an auxiliary injectant like water injection but methanol burns and allows for more power versus a static knock suppressant like water which doesn't really add noticable power. for the best of both worlds i usually recommend 50%water/50% methanol blend for the auxiliary injection as i have been running it for years without any ill effects.

some people prefer straight water, some people prefer straight methanol, but methanol auxiliary injection isn't nearly as much of a knock safety buffer as water is. some people run up to and well beyond 30psi with straight water injection on 91 octane pump fuel, with methanol as a auxiliary injectant i wouldn't push more than about 22-23psi, many people have tried to push further and failed because auxiliary injection is not an accurate injectant as the fuel system fuel injectors are.

i don't really have alot of experience with haltechs as not many of my customers were running them so i can't really comment on the sprint. i haven't heard anything bad about the ID injectors so i wouldn't worry about that, and just about any haltech will be fine, just depends on which options you want/need it to do.

again, tons of good info! thank you for helping! i'm 100% noob status on this, so i appreciate the good info. i usually go through a tank of gas per drift session (@ stock power) so i'll need to get a shake down event going once i get it all together and tuned to gauge how much i'll need to bring with out of state. i STILL need to pull the motor apart and see if i have a cracked iron, or side seal..
like you said i don't see myself needing more than 450whp. so i should be good on the 50/50% blend as you mentioned at my power goals.

i really like the E8 but i'm hesitant on buying it used. i don't like the SprintRE because of the lack of adjustability as well as the fact i need to run High Impedance injectors... :/ i think tonight i'm going to dig through some more threads and try to weight the options... ID injectors are pretty steep but the quality seems worth it.

driftfcbuckey 01-31-11 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by Daviticus (Post 10446247)
S'all good son. Do work, keep drifting fun.

And get sponsored by McDonalds. We're both lard-asses at heart, let's at least get the hookup on food.

Buck Doubles son. i'm like the Hamburglar at events snatching burgers between practice sessions! haha

Daviticus 01-31-11 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by red92vr4buckey (Post 10446276)
Buck Doubles son. i'm like the Hamburglar at events snatching burgers between practice sessions! haha

I'm all about it. :icon_tup:

nismo_bill 01-31-11 10:27 PM

this thread is awesome.. ive been following for sooo long.. i dont post hardly ever.. especially since i got rid of my last 7. but ive got a nice t2 im picking up this weekend. i just have to say this thread is my main motivation to get another fc.. thanks man. and good luck!!

i wish we had more shit for drifting in michigan.. we just have thieves.

driftfcbuckey 01-31-11 10:36 PM

Thieves are everywhere as unfortunate as that is... it sucks, but you just gotta try your best at all times to keep your shit on lock down, and even then it's still at risk.. just gotta hope for the best i guess.
Thanks for the props man! It makes all the photo taking/uploading worth it to know it helps others. that's the main reason why i started it! JTP's advice helped me alot when i was starting so just trying to help out however i can.

you should post more often in here! the T2 will be a fun car when you get it.
blockoff plates, deleted rats-nest, 3" downpipe, straightpipe exhaust, and intake kit will make it rip. score some GSL-SE 680cc injectors for the secondaries, and a wideband, and set the boost to 10psi, and it'll be a rocket.

i miss my early setup for street driving.

Gurew 01-31-11 10:52 PM

let me know when you are ready for some of my parts!

driftfcbuckey 01-31-11 10:57 PM


Originally Posted by Gurew (Post 10446616)
let me know when you are ready for some of my parts!

I'm ready, i can't wait! Ben has me contemplating ID 2000's right now! trying to dig through some threads to see what to do. i already bought 4 RC 1000's off a friend that are brand new..

Gurew 01-31-11 10:59 PM

really hard to beat...the injector dynamics injectors are TOP NOTCH!!!!

driftfcbuckey 01-31-11 11:09 PM

i'll need to pick up the inserts to run your rails correct?

looks like ID 2000's are going into the build sheet. better to be safe than sorry by pulling my motor out trying to save $100 on injectors.

Really looking forward to using your fuel rails! quality is top notch for sure!
https://www.rx7club.com/vendor-classifieds-276/thesarx-darin-neagle-scumbag-scammer-938160/

Gurew 01-31-11 11:13 PM

you dont need the inserts in most cases, but i do make those too, if you ever need some just let me know and ill send some to you :) i make them 100 at a time lol

driftfcbuckey 01-31-11 11:45 PM

SWEET! lol so pumped right now! are you on azdriven.com?
you need to mass produce wheel spacers/steering angle tierod spacers! lol

Gurew 01-31-11 11:52 PM

im not on azdriven, should i be lol?

driftfcbuckey 01-31-11 11:57 PM

Do it if you live there! i just registered. Alex (the admin) is a pretty cool guy! they support alot of vendors, and whatnot.
i just threw my build thread on there to help get more views.

8,500 views isn't enough... lol
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...otobucket2.png

4WDrift 02-01-11 11:57 AM

I havent kept up with this thread but glad its back alive. If your going to xdc at summit point man just hit me up. i live about 1.5 hours south and never mind people crashing at my house.

RXILVER7 02-01-11 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by red92vr4buckey (Post 10445320)
thanks for the info! i need to get on it, just scared i'd mess it up. i was trying to hire a marketing company to help with stuff like that for the mean time so i can go back to school and learn everything for myself, but they WANT SCRIPSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSsssss haha
i would pay someone with experience in doing this to make me a proposal.

anything would help honestly... discounts on tires, discounts on gas to travel... etc.. i've got the drive to go anywhere at anytime, and throw down, just the money aspect is killer... same for everyone else..

What kind of marketing help are you looking for?

driftfcbuckey 02-01-11 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by 4WDrift (Post 10447444)
I havent kept up with this thread but glad its back alive. If your going to xdc at summit point man just hit me up. i live about 1.5 hours south and never mind people crashing at my house.

i appreciate the offer! i may take you up on that if i can get out there! thank you! we'll keep in touch as things go for sure!

driftfcbuckey 02-01-11 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by RXILVER7 (Post 10447567)
What kind of marketing help are you looking for?

i'm going to PM you.


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