Where are the new advertising rates?
 

Its been a while and have not heard back from any mods. Are there new vendor advertising rates and what are they?

Bump...

It is my understanding that they are working on a case by case basis to make it very fair but the Doc would know for sure as I understand he is working directly with IB for a bunch of members.

I haven't heard a peep about it. Odd, considering they are so concerned with the money. I spoke with a business owner today and he has yet to hear from Doc or IB as promised last week.

Doc told me in a PM yesterday that he was sick in bed for a week. He has not been as active as much as he usually is. :)

Makes sense. Hope he gets well soon, even if Im not gonna like what he has to say when he does. ;)

actually the unconfirmed numbers I was hearing and very very reasonable... less than I paid before.

As soon as we can get a confirmed numbers we will post them guys.

Roen and myself have also brought up that vendors should be able to part out up to 6 cars per year with no fees or other issues... so hopefully that will go through too.

Sorry guys, I have not been well lately. I will see if I can get some more information on the matter this week.

*hums jeopardy theme*

Ok, here is the official approved lower rate at this time:
$100.00 a month for a signature link, a signature graphics banner and unlimited posting privileges in the Business Classifieds. This also includes unlimited group buys. Before you would have to pay the extra fee with starter packages if you wanted to run group buys. Group buys will still have to be posted in the group buy forum and are not allowed anywhere else on the site.

A Business Classifieds section has been created and is where all business/vendors are to post their classifieds. Businesses/vendors will not be able to post in the private classifieds. Existing vendors that were posting in the private classifieds have until the end of this month to post in there. After that point all of threads are to be posted in the Business classifieds and mods will be moving the existing ones at the end of the month.

When contacting Internet Brands if you want this package you need to state that you want the $100.00 a month starter package.

Any other questions please either pm me or post in this thread.

Thank you,

Note that we are also working on getting a lower cost package approved, but don't have an answer on that one yet.

Sounds good, however I am curious about the individuals that dont own and operate a business, nor never attend to. Is there a limit to how many FS threads they can post a month? This is a question for the people that sell on a 'regular' basis I guess.

Thanks,
Charlie
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Interesting. Fair price considering the signature allowance, but I believe it would put businesses/vendors at a disadvantage versus "individuals" when trying to sell parts, because most people are not going to look in the business classifieds as much as they will in the general classifieds for individuals.

This means that businesses actually pay for decreased views versus individuals who can still post free. Hardly seems right.

Looking over the 2 classified areas right now, it seems there are a lot of extraneous sections in the business classifieds. There should be just one business classifieds area...one for group buys, and one for business feedback. IT is far too confusing the way it is.

It would be a better compromise to put the business classifieds as a subforum of the general classifieds, so at least more users would notice it and think to look inside as they are looking in the other classified sections.

I know, I know...all I do is bitch and whine. Just pointing out facts.

IF this oversight were corrected I might consider coming on board.

exactly, excellent point

The reason that the Business classifieds were put at the top of the page is that it would be the 1st classifieds that members would see. Also the fact that it is grouped with the other business sub-forums and group buy sections.

We could put it between the regional forums and the private party classifieds.
That way it would be right above the private party classifieds for more exposure.

Also need to state that effective June 30th, 2008 that all Vendor/Businesses are to post in the Business classifieds. There will be no more posting in the private classifieds allowed by Businesses/vendors.

Off topic but I will respond.

This is what has been agreed on for the private seller.
A private seller is one that does not own or operate a "Business".
-- No more than 1 part out every 2 months. (This means 1 car part out every 2 months)
(6 per year)
-- No more than 5 FS threads a month.

Anymore than that you will have to pay vendor fees.

Their will be more updated detailed information about all of this when the draft is finished and the current rules are amended.

Thanks.

Doc, dont forget to tell them that "NO MORE POSTING" includes :
NO Forsale threads
No responding to WTB threads

You can not offer anything for sale nor can you respond when a member post a WTB thread. If you are a paying vendor or former vendor you can not do anything in the regular classified section.. IB might aswell block Vendors and former vendor from even being able to access that part of the website..

Doc from your recent pm to me, the above is what I interpreted.. except the IB blocking thingy...yet that might be next..

How is that going to be regulated. There is no way to moderate a 'vender' PM'ing someone on a WTB post. Like you said the ONLY way that is possible is to block them. But if they want to buy something second hand how are they going to see the classifieds when they are blocked.

this is a complete joke!

Its not a joke.. it is for real.. If you are a current paying vendor or former vendor, or a regular Registered user with more than 5 F.S. threads monthly or more than 2 car part outs, you are not allowed to post a reply to ANY WTB ads in the regular F.S. section or post any F.S. threads. As per DOC's pm to me at 6:40am this morning.. responding to WTB's is offering parts for sale and it is not allowed.

If you are a PAYING vendor (100.00 per month for now, IB will most likely raise this price later) you will only be allowed to post items for sale in this new BUSINESS/VENDOR FOR SALE section ( Soon to be created). I am guessing that there will be no WTB's in this section, only vendors listing items for sale and regular registered members posting/responding in the vendors thread.

Now responding to WTB's in the regular F.S. section via PM's and not posting...well DOC did not tell me that is not allowed.....YET ..atleast he hasn't. This is why I said IB might aswell block all vendors, former vendors, registered users with more than 5 F.S. threads per month or more than 2 car part outs from even having access to the regular F.S. section.

This proposal is actually worse than before, and I feel like is going backwards..

To all the venders that sell parts I feel for yeah. Say goodbye to alot of your business :sadwavey:

Sorry, But you have misinterpreted this.

I did not state anything about private sellers responding to WTB threads. Private sellers can respond to as many WTB threads if they have what the member is looking for. It has nothing to do with if they have exceeded their amount of threads or parts for that period of time.

In my pm to you I stated that if you are a vendor/business and have not payed to advertise on this site. Then you are not allowed to post any for sale threads or post any replies to WTB ads anywhere on this site. Key word is "Post". What you do in Pm's is nothing we can control. Posting is advertising and as a Business all are expected to pay fees to do so. So far we have gone to great lengths to negotiate at Vendors behalf to get lower rates. We have accomplished this with the $100.00 a month starter package which is half of what it was. We are still in negotiations to get a even lower rate. This lower rate will not have the same perks as the $100.00 a month one but will still get your name out their at a very affordable price.

As far as paying vendors/businesses posting to WTB threads in the private for sale classifieds I don't see a problem with that. Again, the key word is "Paying". There is just to be no for sale threads to be started by businesses/vendors in the private classifieds. I also don't see a problem with a paying vendor/business starting a WTB thread in any of the classifieds. It's just the selling of goods that are to be kept in the Business classifieds.

I hope this clarifies this issue.

Updated information on April special-

https://www.rx7club.com/announcement.php?f=230&a=155

I would like to see business posts mixed in with general posts, but they could be made a different color text or have a special tag, icon, or font next to them to set them apart. IN fact, this would be productive for what the vendor fees are meant to do...attract attention to what the business is selling.

Thinking long and hard about it, I am not sure that it is not a disadvantage to have to pay to post in a different section than the one that everyone is already used to looking in.

We'll take this up with IB, but I'm not sure how they'll respond. One of the main complaints we got from vendors before was that if they didn't pay for a private subforum, they didn't have a place to post sales. We tried having them post in the regular classifieds forums, and that lead to a lot of the mess we're in now - both because private sellers wound up trying to compete with vendors (and visa versa) which pissed both sets of people off; and because it made it possible for a ton of people to sneak in and start selling on the site without paying, which really pissed off paying vendors. So we created the new "business classifieds" section to resolve the issue.

Anyway we'll bring this up with IB, but I'd like to see how it goes. I've been watching traffic on the Classified section, and watched it shift from the old forum to the new right after we created it. I really think after we get the new forum populated with posts, people will enjoy having the choice.

Main thing to notice here folks is we've made real progress. We finally have a good rate package, and even a super special deal for new vendors. Lets recognize the good here too?

I agree. We make some progress and people start downing it. This further leads to other members "joining" in on the bashing/hazing of new rules and new rates.

What more can be done from the moderator's and the admin's?

ThE $150.00 for 90 days thing is fine.. Plenty would be willing to do this.. And we all know that IB will raise the price after the 90 day period is over.. I personally would decide then to renew or not to renew based on the price..

The Bad: The "Business Classified" Has ZERO traffic! To be bound to only post there is $150.00 wasted.

The Solution: Let US post in the regular Classified Section for the 90 day period, knowing in advance that 90 days from now all vendors ads will move over to the "Business classifieds".. This gives everyone plenty of time to get going again with sales and giving notice that vendors will be moving soon..

Otherwise IB's current offer is incomplete

I have sent an email concerning your proposal and will give you the answer as soon as I get a response.

Why is it that mods can say "this is how it is" and everyone is supposed to just accept it without question and say "oh, how awesome" even if it is not the best solution (from our point of view). But if someone dissents or suggest another path, then they are "complaining, whining, etc." instead of 'trying to make things better" which is what you claim you want.

Some mods accuse me and others of starting drama and being paranoid, well take a look in the mirror every once in a while.

Good suggestion.

Because it's the same stuff being complained about, and we have been TRYING to make progress on the situation and it just get's annoying to hear the same old thing. And look what it did. It just slowed the process down.

I am just glad there is some resolutioon to this.

Kevin,
We are working on this and have stated that we will be submitting alternatives. Lets focus on that and leave any negativity out of the equation please.:)

A supposed negative comment does not have to be responded by another supposedly negative comment.:)

Lets for once just move forward.

So, for $50 per month (3 month pre-pay) and then $100 per month after that, you get everything I was offered at my current price range minus the banner add?

Seeing as how most people have turned off the banners since they got annoying after the buy out, I wonder if I am getting was we pay for monthly?

Or am I just over analyzing this?


-billy

all right, here is the deal guys.. i have come to the conclusion that the mods here are pretty much useless when it comes to rates.. i went directly to the source and spoke with kim and marvin.. they were very helpful and took care of me .. the main contact number to reach them is 310-280-4000..

No, I'd give them some credit, it appears they have genuinely made an effort to get a compromise for better rates. But it still seems kinda like putting a band aid on a stab wound at this point, and they still become defensive when someone suggests that it could have been planned and executed better.

So there is some clarification to the vendors that were told a while back that they would be able to post in the regular classifieds. This was the direction as given by Ryan at the time. As you can see if was a temporary thing as stated in the thread by him.

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Clarification ...

No dealers in classified section means no NON PAYING dealers in the classified section. Paying vendors are of course allowed to post in the classified section until we come up with a separate 'Classified Section Vendor' advertising package. But for now, if they're an approved vendor (they have a subforum and/or are on the IB list of approved vendors) they can use the Classified section.

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im sure you remember who brought this to ryans attention, dontcha doc?

i always go to the top, there you will get action!

thanks ryan!

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Yes, they are now up to date because of our meetings and efforts with the Marketing director of IB. :)