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Hirohiko 02-11-13 05:20 PM

Damaged housing?
 
I'm rebuilding my 13B because it has a low compression. I've opened and I found this! Do you think that is the cause of low compression? Will I have problems?

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/5...4233191808.jpg

wthdidusay82 02-11-13 05:28 PM

If your fingernail gets caught in it then I wouldn't use it

Rotary >Pistons

stevensimon 02-11-13 06:58 PM

yeah i wouldnt reuse that housing. were your apex seals still intact?

NCross 02-12-13 01:08 AM

Looks like a piece of carbon go crammed against the housing. Being at the trailing plug hole probably lowered the exhaust stroke compression.

Hirohiko 02-12-13 05:17 AM

Hi guys! Thanks for the answers! The seals looks well on both housing, but the compression are low including on a no damaged housing. Obviusly on damaged housing it's lower.

What I can do?

1.- Is it possible repair the housing?
2.- If I buy a new one, could will join with my "old" rotor?
3.- I've read that it's recomended replacement in pairs. But, why?
4.- Any alternative idea?

Thanks guys! You're awesome!

psyaddict 02-12-13 05:43 AM

I think its repairable in the US.
You can buy a new or a used housing, what matches your existing housing. S4 N/A usdm housing has sparkplug holes 5mm closer to eatchother, i recommend to search it from the forums

RotaryEvolution 02-12-13 10:13 AM

if the gouge is in a critical compression area and your nail can catch it then it probably isn't a great idea to use it, i wouldn't even recommend refurbishing it.

critical areas include every surface area of the housing excluding 1-2 inches before and after the exhaust port.

minor burrs and some boot wear can be removed by resurfacing. chrome cannot be repaired currently but a few shops in the northern americas are working on that at the moment. the chrome has to be stripped, reapplied and cut smooth again which is not a cheap process.

NCross 02-12-13 11:48 AM

Just buy another housing. They're pretty cheap. $100 give or take.

Nick_d_TII 02-12-13 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by NCross (Post 11374098)
Just buy another housing. They're pretty cheap. $100 give or take.

Mazdatrix New housing pricing.

ROTOR HOUSING 13B 86-88 N/T FRONT 10-B100-N326 $595.27
ROTOR HOUSING 13B 86-88 TURBO FRNT 10-B100-N332 $625.22
ROTOR HOUSING 13B 89-92 N/T FRONT 10-B10A-N350 $669.33
ROTOR HOUSING 13B 89-92 TURBO REAR 10-B50C-N318 $673.93

Obviously used housings will be cheaper... but they will be used.

Hirohiko 02-12-13 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by RotaryEvolution (Post 11373973)
if the gouge is in a critical compression area and your nail can catch it then it probably isn't a great idea to use it, i wouldn't even recommend refurbishing it.

critical areas include every surface area of the housing excluding 1-2 inches before and after the exhaust port.

minor burrs and some boot wear can be removed by resurfacing. chrome cannot be repaired currently but a few shops in the northern americas are working on that at the moment. the chrome has to be stripped, reapplied and cut smooth again which is not a cheap process.

Hi! Thanks for answer! It's good to know it!


Originally Posted by NCross (Post 11374098)
Just buy another housing. They're pretty cheap. $100 give or take.

Who? Where?! My engine is a turbo s5


Originally Posted by Nick_d_TII (Post 11374299)
Mazdatrix New housing pricing.

ROTOR HOUSING 13B 86-88 N/T FRONT 10-B100-N326 $595.27
ROTOR HOUSING 13B 86-88 TURBO FRNT 10-B100-N332 $625.22
ROTOR HOUSING 13B 89-92 N/T FRONT 10-B10A-N350 $669.33
ROTOR HOUSING 13B 89-92 TURBO REAR 10-B50C-N318 $673.93

Obviously used housings will be cheaper... but they will be used.

I've seen that, but it's a lot of money. If use an use housing, could have any problem? And if I use a new? Which difference have? I read that if I use a new brand housing (only remplace one...) could quick wear down it and shakes crankshaft.

NCross 02-12-13 05:09 PM

Well they're cheap here in the US at least. I didn't notice you were in Spain. Ebay, Craigslist, and forum embers have them for sale for less than $150 in good shape. You can use s5 NA housings as long as you use them on front and rear. Don't mismatch. The spark plugs are at a slightly different spot. Not sure of any other differences.

Hirohiko 02-12-13 05:52 PM

We have a problem with the older rotary (pre-rx8) second hand market here in spain, mainly due to the fact that only few rx7 units was sold.

stevensimon 02-12-13 07:06 PM

turbo s5 is the same as fd housings. fd housings wont have the water port drilled in to them like the turbo s5 housing but if your other housing is good, you can use that one for the turbos water port and use the fd housing for the one mazda just blocks off anyway, or you can just drill it out.

MrGoodnight 02-12-13 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by stevensimon (Post 11374530)
turbo s5 is the same as fd housings.

Are NA s5 the same as well? Besides the diffuser in the exhaust port.

stevensimon 02-12-13 07:52 PM

yes

RotaryEvolution 02-13-13 03:18 PM

technically the S5 chrome is a little weaker than the series 6 FD rotor housings. the FD housings always come out with the least wear.

Hirohiko 02-13-13 03:45 PM

Hi!! Look what I found! It S5T2 engine, you think that you could use? I was here and I had forgotten!

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/7...7732379273.jpg

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/4...7733259295.jpg


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