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1st Turbo FC3S S4 1987
Hello people of RX7club, I have been lurking around since my first FC(1988 N/A SE) but never really touched the car because I had no money to spend on it.
Now that I do have some extra money to put down on a Project car, I didn't hesitate to jump on this 1987 TII FC3S. (Rancho Cordova/Sacramento, CA area) So the car cost me $1,800. $1,600 if I return his 350Z rims(lol) Pros: It's boosted :) S5 tailights Fresh white paintjob Trust complete exhaust system from turbo all the way to the dual tips(Has a test pipe, no cat) Re-Amemiya front coilovers with camber plates (Spring rate and height adjust-ability) Tokiko illumina's in the rears (Only spring rate adjustable) HKS air filter All electrics work (Sunroof needs a little help to move) Short Shifter New Coilpacks Ebay Drilled/Slotted brake rotors Ebay BoV (lol, I need to buy one that recirculates the air back into the system) Came with Mazdatrix engine rebuild dvd Also bought a Haynes repair manual for it Cons: Rear rotor has 15 PSI compression (Needs rebuild) Interior is burgundy (Plan on dying it black and buying some nice seats) Original car color was red, so engine bay, underhood, and door jams are still red. No stereo or speakers (Plan on installing a double din with a nice sound system) My immediate plans are to get the car running asap.(My brother and I already took off most of the bullshit that's attached to the engine) So here are my options: 1. Me and my older bro can watch the Mazdatrix rebuild DVD like 50 times then attempt the task(lol). Only my brother has had experience rebuilding engines, but he's only rebuilt Honda engines before. 2. Send the 13BT core over to the young boy at Rotary Resurrection, Reasonable price if my rotors/housings are good. 3. Find a forum member willing to rebuild it for me, or help me with the rebuild. (Rancho Cordova, California) 4. Swap another engine in, rotary or not. (Probably not guna do this, way too much work lol) PICS https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...44575651_n.jpg https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...16058096_n.jpg https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...08268572_n.jpg https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...75924176_n.jpg https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...55820849_n.jpg https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...86815961_n.jpg Oh and is this the stock turbo? MY brother said it's like 3X bigger than his Audi 1.8T turbo lol, probably is stock though. https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...41874581_n.jpg ] |
Yes that is the stock turbo.
Good luck with your build! |
Just wondering $1,600-$1,800 a good price for what I have here?
Also on the rebuild bit, what would you guys recommend of the options listed? Thanks MrGoodnight :) |
looks like a decent buy. I think if you put that much into getting it running, then you should have a really solid runner. I definitely see enough to keep you busy until you get it running though, so get crackin'! :)
oh and it is my opinion that those wheels don't even look good on a 350Z, so unless you really like them, get your $200. :) |
you bought that from nick (smogsux) huh?
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Congratulations on your FC turbo purchase. Looking forward to your build progress.
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It's the same car I think, but I got the car from some one who bought it from Nick(Yuba City). He said he drove it for like a week before the rear rotor blew, it also had a ton of vacuum lines and ground wires that were wired/ran incorrectly. Is this the car? I wish I could view it I need 20 posts lmfao
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you have 20 posts now lol but i know a friend who bought nick's last fc and are sorting out a few things last i heard over a year later
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I wish I swooped this up!!
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Pretty good deal. I think the tires are fresh too, so if you like the Z wheels I'd keep em for the $200 he'd give you back. I personally like the Z wheels, since they don't stand out, but are clean and not insanely heavy. Don't want any attention from the cops with that test pipe ;)
The engine popped due to the wastegate line coming off, so when you rebuild it make sure all those vacuum lines are tight! EDIT: I know you have this car, Chobiwan has my beautiful 10AE that I wish I still had :(, and some loser in Socal has/had my other 10AE |
Originally Posted by SmogSUX
(Post 11456474)
Pretty good deal. I think the tires are fresh too, so if you like the Z wheels I'd keep em for the $200 he'd give you back. I personally like the Z wheels, since they don't stand out, but are clean and not insanely heavy. Don't want any attention from the cops with that test pipe ;)
The engine popped due to the wastegate line coming off, so when you rebuild it make sure all those vacuum lines are tight! EDIT: I know you have this car, Chobiwan has my beautiful 10AE that I wish I still had :(, and some loser in Socal has/had my other 10AE |
I agree with what seems to be the general consensus that it's a good buy. I'd spend a morning every weekend or two looking at the pick-a-part syle wrecking yards around there to hunt down things you need after you spend some time looking prodding around under the hood but it looks like a rad deal for what you paid. Does it already have a fuel cut defender already?
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That's a nice start of things. Are you in Norcal?
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Yeah I think the Rtek 1.8 has a fuel cut, right?
And I'm located up in Rancho Cordova/Sacramento area And the engine has been out since May 5th, still need to find out how i'm guna get it rebuilt, any recommendations on local shops? https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...77931016_n.jpg |
I do believe it's supposed to and so you're good. As has been said before. Proceed carefully once you get her running again but with a FCD you have a bit less to worry about. Have fun!
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I would recommend Lucky 7 Racing in Duarte California, have them do a nice street port. It will be more then worth to have a street port done during your rebuild :nod:.
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Ooo engine's out. Time for Q-tips and degreaser!! Local shoppes wise, +1 for lucky7. Never had an engine built there myself but I've heard good things. Most everyone else isn't really local so...
We're having a get together at my place this Saturday; it's mainly like a mechanic's day; we're tearing down my motor and I guess sort of fixing everyone else's car if they come by. BBQ as well. |
Nice! Are you from the sac area? Let me know how you do the double din install. I installed one of pioneers 2013 model. FHX700BT I think is the model. But I have 2 gaps on the side and it was a byatch to put in using the stock brackets.
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So we dropped off the 13B at Evil Genius Racing in West Sacramento, hopefully the boys can make this lil baby run :)
PS: We used a Mexican cherry picker to pull the engine(green bar we found with rope:icon_tdow) then put it in the trunk of my Miata, was a perfect fit(kinda). :) https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...15874309_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.n...30938379_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...75888598_n.jpg |
Cool! Are you getting an port work done on your rebuild?
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Originally Posted by S4 Vert
(Post 11467950)
Cool! Are you getting an port work done on your rebuild?
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Ah, if Lucky 7 already touched it more then likely it has been street ported. They do things right the first time every time.
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I'm also in the sacramento area. If you need anything let me know. I got some very nice used 2pc 2mm apex seals for sale.
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God I love that photo of a blown 13b in the trunk of a miata. :lol::lol:
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Originally Posted by rexy91
(Post 11469740)
I'm also in the sacramento area. If you need anything let me know. I got some very nice used 2pc 2mm apex seals for sale.
If I attempt to rebuild it maybe you can guide me a bit? :) |
Ill be honest with u. I'm watching the mazdatrix video just like u. I bought the motor from a jdm motor shop off florin perkins. Dropped her in and drove around for a couple of months till I blew my motor. I'm in the process of rebuilding my motor just like u.
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By the way there are no reputable rotary shops in sac where did u take your car. And if I'm correct before u bought that car it was on craigslist for quite some time.
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if ben was still in yuba city i would say go there but he isnt which sucks
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Originally Posted by rexy91
(Post 11469954)
By the way there are no reputable rotary shops in sac where did u take your car. And if I'm correct before u bought that car it was on craigslist for quite some time.
About getting a rebuild in the Sacramento Area, I think i'm guna give Evil Genius Racing a chance, even though they aren't as reputable as I would like them to be. |
Hopefully everything goes good with your rebuild
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Looking good keep it up and keep us updated.
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Nice prep and paint work :icon_tup:. Now you'll never have to worry about having a clean engine bay that matches your paint :nod:.
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Originally Posted by Agrovain
(Post 11480167)
Seems like it would have taken less time to remove the remaining pieces than it took to mask them. |
Originally Posted by clokker
(Post 11480403)
I don't understand the logic employed here...
Seems like it would have taken less time to remove the remaining pieces than it took to mask them. |
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Weight reduction time: Speaker tower removal, rear carpet removal, and removing bins.
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...16665493_n.jpg Before/After lol https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...25142203_n.jpg Strut brace very soon https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...16104627_n.jpg Aproxx 31.6 lbs off the car, working on the sound deadening tar tomorrow https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.n...52862612_n.jpg |
Lol my FC is at EGR too! It's the black one in case you saw it.
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Not bad a 31.6 pound weight reduction. What other weight reduction plans do you have in store?
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Originally Posted by S4 Vert
(Post 11498166)
Not bad a 31.6 pound weight reduction. What other weight reduction plans do you have in store?
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Originally Posted by Agrovain
(Post 11447160)
2. Send the 13BT core over to the young boy at Rotary Resurrection, Reasonable price if my rotors/housings are good.
I just about died reading that! I'll have to try that line on Landers the next time I try to mooch some parts off him. What kind of goals do you have for the car? Planning those out early saves a lot of time, money, and work down the line! (Especially injector sizing, clutch, etc while the engine is out). As for rebuilding it yourself: it's not a complicated process; however, there are a lot of tools that most people don't readily have (dial indicators, etc) that are quite important. Also, things such as clearancing the side seals, inspecting bearings, and checking end-play can be major pitfalls if they're neglected. The problem with new builders is they often skip steps or think they can get away with something not being "in spec." If you take your time and check everything, they're really not bad at all. Being organized helps a ton as well. If you're sticking with the stock turbo (that one looks in dire need of a rebuild), now would be an ideal time to port the snot out of that wastegate. |
Originally Posted by SonicRaT
(Post 11498463)
:lol:
I just about died reading that! I'll have to try that line on Landers the next time I try to mooch some parts off him. What kind of goals do you have for the car? Planning those out early saves a lot of time, money, and work down the line! (Especially injector sizing, clutch, etc while the engine is out). As for rebuilding it yourself: it's not a complicated process; however, there are a lot of tools that most people don't readily have (dial indicators, etc) that are quite important. Also, things such as clearancing the side seals, inspecting bearings, and checking end-play can be major pitfalls if they're neglected. The problem with new builders is they often skip steps or think they can get away with something not being "in spec." If you take your time and check everything, they're really not bad at all. Being organized helps a ton as well. If you're sticking with the stock turbo (that one looks in dire need of a rebuild), now would be an ideal time to port the snot out of that wastegate. Sound deadening tar removed somewhat. https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...64286558_n.jpg https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...74955032_n.jpg |
PowerFC's are nice in that they are fairly simple to use. The only downside is the lack of programmable outputs/inputs and the fact that you need an adapter box (datalogit, FC-Hako, or ironically, the ones I just started building over in the PFC forum) to datalog or tap into all of the available features.
You will likely want this adapter from Banzai Racing (Banzai is good people) to run the PowerFC on a Series 4: APEXi Power FC Adapter Kit (86-88 RX-7) It will make life all kinds of easier! Any ideas on your power goals? |
Originally Posted by SonicRaT
(Post 11499292)
PowerFC's are nice in that they are fairly simple to use. The only downside is the lack of programmable outputs/inputs and the fact that you need an adapter box (datalogit, FC-Hako, or ironically, the ones I just started building over in the PFC forum) to datalog or tap into all of the available features.
You will likely want this adapter from Banzai Racing (Banzai is good people) to run the PowerFC on a Series 4: APEXi Power FC Adapter Kit (86-88 RX-7) It will make life all kinds of easier! Any ideas on your power goals? |
Originally Posted by Agrovain
(Post 11499371)
around 400RWHP
As with any modified rotary, my only suggestion is the following forum: Auxiliary Injection - RX7Club.com Anywho, looks like an interesting build. Diggin' the fact that you actually removed the speaker towers. Can't even count how many people just leave those things sitting in there and cut holes in them to fit their strut bars and such! |
So we decided on putting in S5 NA rotors instead of the S4 TII rotors since there is a lack of turbo rotors and I want to get this thing going asap.
Old Rotors https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...60314954_n.jpg Minor crack https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...49713322_n.jpg |
If u do that wouldn't u need the counter weights and eccentric shaft
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I mean use s5 eccentric and counter weights
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Yeah you do need to balance out the rotors
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Wheels are here, getting tires tomorrow.
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