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Frankenrex 09-18-21 11:20 AM

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Just before I headed out on Thursday to hep set up the convention, I decided to take a swing at the hood latch.
This is after dunking in the muriatic acid:
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So clean!

The outside went fine, but the inner parts were a bit more difficult.
I tried a few variations of this to get inside, between the layers:
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Which worked to a degree. There still seem to be a few spots that refused to plate. I't difficult with two moving parts in there occluding various bits.
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I think what I will do for the missed spots inside is collect some spray galvanizing in a container and brush it on. I doubt that it will take the passivating, but that's inside the mechanism, out of sight. I just want it to not rust. It'll help that there will be grease in there to lubricate the pivot points, as well.

Kizmit99 09-18-21 11:32 AM

Looking good... I'm interested in seeing how that hood latch turns out. I've got mine pulled right now - no rust on it so it's unlikely I'll strip it, probably just grease and use as is. Still interested in how this turns out though!

Question for you on the storage of your muriatic acid... Do you keep and reuse it between sessions? If so, what are you storing it in?

I've had bad experiences with acid in a shop environment (even the slightest fumes can cause a rust storm in the shop). My plan is to use the acid only outside and to keep the original container (plastic jug) outside once opened. So far I've just used a bit at a time, then dilute it water and discard (instead of trying to keep it between sessions). While this won't be too expensive, it is wasteful. So interested in your approach.

Frankenrex 09-18-21 12:57 PM

I've been reusing the same batch for quite a while, adding a bit if needed. It doesn't seem to lose potency, though it's gotten dirty from the stuff it's removed.
It definitely needs to stay sealed. It surface rusted a number of tools and stuff on my workbench before I grew a brain and was more careful.
I keep it in a disposable Tupperware style food container - I believe this particular one was one that sliced ham lunchmeat came in. I open it to dip the parts, then immediately seal it back up. It lives in a pie tin on a piece of cardboard when in use to protect my workbench and contain any spills.
Basically, any container that seals up (and isn't metal!) should work - for example, the distilled water I buy comes in a nice heavy jug with a screw-on cap that would work perfectly. You could always get another jug similar to the original and funnel the used acid in there to keep it separate from the fresh stuff.

I could have used the latch as it was. The OEM plating was still there, just a bit ugly. I could have repainted it and gone on, but I wanted it all shiny and gold. :D

Kizmit99 09-18-21 06:07 PM

Hey - speaking of "shiny and gold" -- I know you're planning on a GSL-SE intake with this build, but have you given any consideration (or stumbled across anything online) to refurbishing vacuum actuators (like those that surround the Nikki carb)? Mine are old and skanky looking (even after cleaning), and a nice replating and chromating would do wonders -- but, I'm pretty sure that would end up destroying them eventually. From what I can tell it would seem that the muriatic acid dip shouldn't bother the rubber diaphragms inside (assuming they are a natural rubber), but I would expect the dip to strip the plating on the inner surface and that replating would only do the outer surface. Leaving the inner surface stripped and ready to rust away. So, I've pretty much convinced myself it's a no-go for plating, but was curious what others may be doing to refresh them?

I have had nice results using rustoleum's "chrome" (metallic silver) paint. Wondering if their metallic gold might produce a reasonable result on the actuators...

Frankenrex 09-19-21 11:19 AM

I'm going to have to figure that out when I get to that point. I have several sets of actuators, both GSL-SE and S4 FC, but I don't recall their condition.
In the past I've brushed or polished, then clear-coated steel, with varying results. I've gotten surface rust under the clear, but not consistently. A good auto body 2K clear might work better than the Rustoleum clear I used.
I wonder if the diaphragms can handle enough heat to powder coat? There are some nice metallic powders that are a fair representative of various metals.
There is a way to plate stuff that can't be immersed. Caswell makes a zinc anode "brush" for spot-plating. I don't know how well theirs works, but I've made a version using a zinc strip and an acid brush, and it did work, albeit slowly. It's good for getting into hidden areas and difficult spots.
Full kit: Plug N' Plate Zinc Plating Kit - Caswell Inc (caswellplating.com)
(There's a video of it in use at that link)
Brush only, if you already have the chemicals:
ZINC PLATING WAND - Caswell Inc (caswellplating.com)

Frankenrex 09-24-21 12:12 PM

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A little more progress.

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I did end up brushing some cold galvanizing paint into the interior:
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Also galvanized the fasteners for the bumper shocks I painted last week.
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Bonus bolt I was using as a mandrel to handle those nuts :quagmire:
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Plated it since it was there and a little ragged.


Unrelated to the project, I unearthed this while searching for something else (my modeling paintbrushes to get the cold galv in the latch mechanism) in my office:
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For you young folks, this is what we used pre-internet to wire in stereos and alarms. Either that, or a fax service that sent you the same thing a car at a time on request.

I don't know if I'll get any more done this weekend. It's cooling off here in TX, at least, but I know at least one day is already a family day.

raven12aFB 09-24-21 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by Frankenrex (Post 12486801)
A little more progress.

http://i.imgur.com/WnKP7Bcl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5IdFdLUl.jpg

I did end up brushing some cold galvanizing paint into the interior:
http://i.imgur.com/dkduuW6l.jpg

Also galvanized the fasteners for the bumper shocks I painted last week.
http://i.imgur.com/mXqyDSNl.jpg

Bonus bolt I was using as a mandrel to handle those nuts :quagmire:
http://i.imgur.com/YM9fWe1l.jpg
Plated it since it was there and a little ragged.


Unrelated to the project, I unearthed this while searching for something else (my modeling paintbrushes to get the cold galv in the latch mechanism) in my office:
http://i.imgur.com/RDy9uA3l.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2MFcF8Rl.jpg

For you young folks, this is what we used pre-internet to wire in stereos and alarms. Either that, or a fax service that sent you the same thing a car at a time on request.

I don't know if I'll get any more done this weekend. It's cooling off here in TX, at least, but I know at least one day is already a family day.

Wow......the last time I saw that book was in a friend's shop in the late 80s....... pretty cool....

Where in Texas are you located? .... I'm in Allen......

Frankenrex 09-25-21 12:39 AM


Originally Posted by raven12aFB (Post 12486805)
Wow......the last time I saw that book was in a friend's shop in the late 80s....... pretty cool....

Where in Texas are you located? .... I'm in Allen......

I'm in the mid-cities.
I bought that book from our supplier when I worked in a shop. In 1994, obviously :P

Have you been to any of the DFW RX7 gatherings in Irving? If so, I'm the guy who keeps showing up in a blue AE86 (since none of my rotaries are operational, natch.)

raven12aFB 09-27-21 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by Frankenrex (Post 12486873)
I'm in the mid-cities.
I bought that book from our supplier when I worked in a shop. In 1994, obviously :P

Have you been to any of the DFW RX7 gatherings in Irving? If so, I'm the guy who keeps showing up in a blue AE86 (since none of my rotaries are operational, natch.)

No brother ......I haven't been to any meetings....usually when they do the meetings is on the weekend and I'm usually working.....

Frankenrex 09-28-21 12:36 PM

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Long ago, I made these pretty. They got ugly over the intervening decade or so:
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Easily disassembled:
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Insides were spotless, which was nice!
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Wire brush + a little steel wool:
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Ah.
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Guess I should have either media blasted them, or used paint remover to make sure I had the recessed lettering clean.
I just got in there with a pick and scraped it out, then made sure to wire brush and clean thoroughly.

I also cleaned up the ignition lock, replacing the breakaway bolts with some Allen bolts I had handy. They had to be shortened a bit.
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The bolts, cleaned, with old ones for comparison.
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You'll note that one looks different. That's because one of the original two ran away and hid from me. Thankfully, I had another pair that had been modified (head diameter reduced) for some purpose I can't remember, and I just used one of those. You can also see the nut I used as a guide for the cutting wheel there in the background, and the thread chaser to clean up the cut threads.

Stuff came out nice!
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I even made sure to dangle an anode inside the cans to get that plated, too:
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All reassembled:
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Frankenrex 09-28-21 12:36 PM

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The insulation I ordered two months ago from Aliexpress finally came in:
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Seems decent.

In typical Ali fashion, there was no tracking other than "it left the building" and "it's at your door." Two months at various ports and/or on a ship, and that's all they could tell me. :shrug:



So I think I my air compressor hurt itself.
It sounded a bit labored after using it to do a little blasting and drying on the last few parts, chugged to a stop, then tripped the breaker. :ohdear:

It was pretty dang hot.
It did start up again after I let it cool down a day, and let some air out to trigger the pressure switch, but it didn't sound quite right, and was taking longer than usual to build pressure.
Also, I noticed this:
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That seems a bit warped.

It came loose easily from one of the bolts, so I swiveled it around:
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Little melty.
Interestingly the manual says:
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I noted a bit of seeping/bubbling at the head gasket when I changed the oil in the crankcase (which was still full, BTW - I checked that first.) You can see the oil seep in that first picture. It's not knocking or making terrible mechanical noises, so I'm thinking the head gasket is blown and/or tha valve plate is shot. Of COURSE this model pump uses a plate rather than individually replaceable reed valves, and that plate is NLA. $195 on eBay - no one else has them. And entire new (aftermarket, because the pump is NLA, too) is $250.
I'm going to try the $50 gasket kit first. That's still available. I got it from Grainger, since there's one close by work, it's an official part, and they specced and sold these in the first place (Dayton/Speedaire.)

I've also ordered a metal filter/silencer. Later models ditched the plastic garbage. I did learn that Dayton = Speedaire = Campbell Hausfeld, and LOTS of compressors used this particular pump (4B247, AKA C-H part # VT4923.)

Worst case I will replace the pump. I paid exactly $0 for this years ago, so it owes me nothing.

chuyler1 09-29-21 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by RX7_Renesis (Post 12484826)
Just a suggestion for a front mounted oil cooler in a '79 / '80 SA with a full size rad.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...9655bdb3fe.jpg

I highly recommend having some sort of soft bushing to mount the oil cooler. As strong as that bar looks, it is still subjected to vibrations and flex. You want to isolate the cooler from that so welds don't crack.

Frankenrex 10-11-21 02:07 PM

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So, all kinds of adventure with the compressor.
The gasket the kit comes with doesn't fit my valve plate. Mine is an older style, and of course the valve plate kit is NLA. I found exactly one on eBay. The seller was asking $195 (for which I could just buy another brand new pump entirely...) They accepted my offer of $70, though, so I should have the compresor back up this week.

In actual car stuff, digging out a replacement fluorescent tube for the kitchen turned into a minor shed reorg and cleanup, at which time I dragged some exhaust bits out of the rafters for the RX-7.
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The header is a genuine Racing Beat from an FC RX-7, but will fit the GSL-SE 13B engine, and should fit the chassis OK as well. Cat will be deleted (or replaced by a high-flow that doesn't need external air pump - I think I still have the replacement one I was using on my FC. I think it was able to not use A.I.R. Actually, that one there looks the same...)

I'm not sure when RB was chrome-plating their headers, but... they could have done better. To be fair, not much stands up to the heat of a rotary exhaust.
I'll see what I can do with that. I like that there's an O2 port in the rear header tube and one down just past the join as well.

The Muffler is a Brullen from my friend's former SCCA C-Street Prepared GSL-SE. I've had it for years. Amazingly, I'll be replacing the stock original muffler from 1979. Brullen apparently disappeared in the mid 2000s. I believe my friend told me this muffler was, if not perished, muffling less, so I may need to cut it open and repack it. If I do that, I may go with pumice, like another brand I saw a while back (RB's rotor shaped one? I forget.) Fiberglass packing doesn't hold up at all, and I hear even steel wool is iffy. Will have to see how loud it is.

The stainless tip on the muffler polished up nicely:
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The header cleaned up a little, but most of the chrome is just gone.
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The y-pipe fared better than the header, but it's further from the heat, so that makes sense.

Obviously, I'll blast the rear pipe and muffler, and high-heat paint those, and decide what to do on the header. The pipes aren't really rusty, but the flange is. Need to buy or make a gasket for the header to y-pipe joint. I'm pretty sure I have the one between the header and the engine.

Looking forward to the air compressor being back in operation.

Maxwedge 10-11-21 06:39 PM

That's a cool exhaust. I have a (new) 13B long-primary but it's cool to see the difference from years ago.... the dual-pipe header going into a separate collector to cat. Neat.

The chrome on my brand new RB header is horrible. I understand that I paid for the thick tubing and design, but, my God the welds and chrome plating are poorly done. Paint it, wrap it, re-chrome it, whatever. Just know the thick-wall tubing and bends are proven performers.

Frankenrex 10-13-21 08:33 AM

Oh, yeah, it's plenty thick for sure. The fact that it's lasted this long, both on a car and in storage, says that.

raven12aFB 10-13-21 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by Frankenrex;12489004
[url=https://imgur.com/Lf3E7T0

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You need to sell me that y pipe connector.....😉 I need to get my muffler and exhaust pipe done....need to order the y pipe and flange.....unless you want to sell me that one😎..............🤣😂🤣

I got the same header...bought it used....no chrome left... But I wrapped it and looks new and it will help to keep it cooler.....
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...db0ca4e8d3.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...8ec4d427ec.jpg



Frankenrex 10-13-21 08:54 PM

I'd love to, but I need it for mine!
I think Racing Beat still sells them, or the flange. It really wouldn't be difficult to fabricate one with a little measuring and a plasma cutter, or better still a CNC plasma or waterjet, and a 2" y-pipe.

Your's looks good like that! Guess I need to price out some heat wrap. :D

raven12aFB 10-13-21 11:06 PM


Originally Posted by Frankenrex (Post 12489371)
I'd love to, but I need it for mine!
I think Racing Beat still sells them, or the flange. It really wouldn't be difficult to fabricate one with a little measuring and a plasma cutter, or better still a CNC plasma or waterjet, and a 2" y-pipe.

Your's looks good like that! Guess I need to price out some heat wrap. :D

I'm just kidding about the Y pipe . I bought the heat wrap...2 rolls and 20steel straps for like 20.00 from flebay.......

Thanks...I thought came out pretty good also.....

Frankenrex 12-02-21 11:20 AM

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I started on the floor pan rust repair on the RX-7. Yep - RX-7 content!
Marked for surgery:
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Cancer excised:
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Incidentally, those two angled ribs? They're drains that in theory let any moisture trapped between the layers out:
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(the tube brush at top, and screwdriver at bottom.)

The issue here, is that the moisture was on top, trapped in the carpet and underlay.

Because winter, it got dark (and I wanted to go see Dune,) so wire-brushing the paint and remaining surface rust back, and throwing some weld-through primer on was as far as I got.
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Next will be to make a pattern, cut some steel, and start throwing sparks.

Winter will slow me down on some stuff. Paint doesn't like the cold, for example, even the mild cold we (usually...) get here in Texas. Hopefully I can get the floor done before it's too cold to paint it, then I can do stuff like the firewall insulation, and work on wiring. I do need to blast and paint the frame for the dash, though, too.



Frankenrex 12-02-21 11:22 AM

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I tried some leftover AC coil cleaner I had on the crusty air flow meter (AFM) for the GSL-SE EFI going in the RX-7. It's a basic (rather than acidic) cleaner. Seems to work OK-ish. It doesn't make it shiny, though it does get the crud off.

During:
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After:
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Then I did the whole bottom, with a little scrubbing:
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As near as I can tell, the really silvery bits are where what's left of the OEM clear coating on the aluminum remains.

Here's the other side, still grody:
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I did the other side of the AFM on Sunday.
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I also forgot and left the cleaner on a lot longer than you're supposed to, which darkened it a bit, but didn't hurt it otherwise. I think I'll try some acidic wheel cleaner. I swear I bought some, but I can't find it now. It's definitely not where I put such things. I may have used it all trying to clean my old AC coils, and forgot I did so. Entirely possible.

Frankenrex 01-05-22 01:58 PM

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I picked a couple hours on one good weather day to start on the patch for the RX-7's floor.
The floor is apparently 18ga.:
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CAD for the first part:
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The ribs are going to be annoying. That's partly the reason for ending it there. Cut that piece, more or less, put in the ribs, which will shorten it, or should, then trim and make the second part. I ran out of light and fucks about that point, but I did at least trace out the patch for the part by the drain hole:
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I also removed some of the sound deadener on the other side, to see how the ribs interacted. They go from an "innie" to an "outie" across the bend.
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Easier to see with some primer:
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Guess I'm going to have to come up with something to let me form those ribs.

RX7_Renesis 01-05-22 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by Frankenrex (Post 12496289)
I also forgot and left the cleaner on a lot longer than you're supposed to, which darkened it a bit, but didn't hurt it otherwise. I think I'll try some acidic wheel cleaner. I swear I bought some, but I can't find it now. It's definitely not where I put such things. I may have used it all trying to clean my old AC coils, and forgot I did so. Entirely possible.

Have you tried vapor honing any of the aluminum parts?


Frankenrex 01-08-22 06:18 PM

Nope. I'd love to build a vapor blaster, but they're messy, and I dont have room at this time. The dry blaster takes up enough room already.
I don't know if anyone nearby does vapor blasting - probably, but I'm not sure I want to pay. :P
I've seen the results on motorcycle engine casings, and it's really impressive. Dang near a factory finish! I guess I could look into it for the parts I want that look for.

Frankenrex 01-31-22 04:17 PM

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Last time we saw the RX-7, I had made a template for part of the rust repair in the footwell, and started on the one for by the drain hole nearby, as well:


Originally Posted by Frankenrex (Post 12500661)
I picked a couple hours on one good weather day to start on the patch for the RX-7's floor.
The floor is apparently 18ga.:
http://i.imgur.com/dqplNoil.jpg

CAD for the first part:
http://i.imgur.com/lKYellsl.jpg

The ribs are going to be annoying. That's partly the reason for ending it there. Cut that piece, more or less, put in the ribs, which will shorten it, or should, then trim and make the second part. I ran out of light and fucks about that point, but I did at least trace out the patch for the part by the drain hole:
http://i.imgur.com/dxGgQB6l.jpg

I also removed some of the sound deadener on the other side, to see how the ribs interacted. They go from an "innie" to an "outie" across the bend.
http://i.imgur.com/G58p5wfl.jpg

Easier to see with some primer:
http://i.imgur.com/sSQq3cel.jpg

Guess I'm going to have to come up with something to let me form those ribs.

Since then, I bought the bead roller, of course.

I think I posted about this before, but thanks to a neighbor who does... something... with 50-gallon drums, I have a stack of these:
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Which are close enough to 18 ga. to use.

I refined the patch template for the drain hole:
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Then went on to cut the patch for the other part:
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Frankenrex 01-31-22 04:17 PM

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I got out the bead roller, and paused for a moment to mark the dies:
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Then got on with rolling bends:
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I'm really happy with how the bends came out!

I cut the tail off after the last bead to make it easier to fit up.:
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I'll be trimming the floor more for the next piece, to catch a bit more thin metal that I spotted, and to just simplify the patch.
Tacked:
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Burned in, a little sloppily, but not the worst:
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Ground it down and discovered some missed spots. As expected, really.
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(I also had to chase some disappearing metal on the floor ribs there, too. I'm going to just slap a coat of epoxy down to address all those pinholes, then probably some bedliner.)

I absolutely did not catch this towel on fire trying to use it to protect what little carpet is left...
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I totally caught that towel on fire, right underneath my face. None of those brown spots are oil stains.

Burned in and ground down:
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And a little zinc primer:
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It's fairly obvious it's there, but I wasn't going for an invisible repair, just a solid one. It's going to be under the carpet, never to be seen again for years.

That was Saturday. Sunday everything hurt so much from contorting myself into the footwell (sooooo oooooold) that I couldn't work up the shits to give for doing the rest of it, so I cleaned up some random interior bits as I was moving some things around in the garage, whilst looking for the grout I thought I had.
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The 8-ball "white" is a little bit more yellow than it looks in the photo, but I can't find anything to un-yellow it. Honestly, it's about the shade most billiard balls actually are, and it's durable, so I'll leave it alone. It stood up to polishing with Blue Magic metal polish! I think it may actually be built like a billiard ball, though it's smaller than an actual one. Also, I guess I only have the one pedal pad - and it cracked a little when I cleaned it. It's a bit crispy. I mean, it *is* 43 years old...

Frankenrex 05-24-22 09:52 AM

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A cool front decided to roll through Texas, so I felt like I should get something done.

Long-time readers may recall we left the RX-7 at this:
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Hmmm. A little rust in there.

Before welding, I decided it would be a good idea to remove the undercoating on the bottom of the floorpan. I did *not* need a fire under there.
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Got a lot off:
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Oof, my frame rails. Fuck you, previous owner.

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Mess
(Banana finger for scale)

Noticed some rust in the bottom of the door:
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Blargh. Might be repairable. Looks like the drain holes weren't. I vacuumed up all the leaves and dirt in the bottom of the door to hopefully hold that at bay, and treated it with rust converter when I did the floor further along.
I do have a spare pair of doors if needed.

Frankenrex 05-24-22 09:54 AM

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I was concerned about all those pinholes still in the floor pan, so I hit it with a knotted wire wheel.

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Pictured: no longer "pinholes".

Marked for deletion:
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Finding and marking the spot welds, since this is where two sections of the sheet metal overlap and are welded together:
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Deleted:
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Wire-wheeled and treated:
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I already had a template for the more rearward patch, the one with the drain hole, so I started with that.
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Ugly welds partially ground:
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Frankenrex 05-24-22 09:55 AM

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Ground:
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At that point it was starting to get even cooler as the cool front *really* came in, with a bit of wind, not to mention, you know, darkness. So I hit it with the galvanizing spray, and cleaned up for the night.
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Not bad!

I did have enough daylight to lay out a template with the time-honored graphite method.
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BTW, Brahma boots are cheap junk:
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Not even leather. To be fair, these were from a thrift store, and I've worn them off and on for a while. This failure mode just really irritates me.

I also made a wrench to get the wire wheels off of my grinders, since nothing I had would both fit the flats and also fit in the gap between the wheel and the grinder body.
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Just a chunk of heavy steel strapping I had hanging around, obviously used to make something else previously.

Frankenrex 05-24-22 09:58 AM

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Sunday it was nice. 70 degrees F for the high.

Template!
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A little pipe insulation on the pinch weld to keep my ribs intact.
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Ready to cut another chink off this drum lid
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Boom!
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That was the easy part. The hard part was bending it properly to fit.
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That particular spot curves in like three different directions. It took a *lot* of fiddling to get it in there. A frustrating amount of fiddling.
At least I wasn't dripping sweat and slowly dying while doing it. Just wedging myself into the floorboard (yes, everything hurts today, Monday, thanks...)

Eventually, I got a halfway decent fit:
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Lots of gaps I'm not happy about, but I'll get it done.

Got it this far:
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until:
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argh.

And that gap is terrible.
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One trip to Home Despot later:
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Frankenrex 05-24-22 09:58 AM

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Grinding (too far in one spot - had to go back and re-weld, *and* made it too thin all around, causing a mess.)
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Potato phone picture. No idea why it was out of focus. The wider spot toward the front of the car/lower end of the picture is a porcupine of wire I made trying to chase the metal burning through... Guess I should have cut back a little further initially. It was still a bit thin there, then I ground it thinner. It doesn't help that the metal I'm using as a patch is a gauge thicker than the actual car's sheet metal.

*Lots* of grinding dust...
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Ground back underneath - you can see the blob I was talking about. Also rosette-welded where the spot welds were in the interim.
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All galvanized up:
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I'll do the remaining little rectangle later. It was almost dark by this point.

While cleaning up, I noted another area I need to apply some attention to:
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This is the forward brace that the seat mounts to. No major calamity, I just need to get some rust convertor and paint on there before it gets nasty.
Have I mentioned just how much I hate rust?

Frankenrex 05-31-22 11:46 AM

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OK, where were we?

Saturday 5/28/22.
The expedition into the depths of the Workbench were successful! I found the top of it.
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I need some space to work on a couple things, so the workbench got de-cluttered and generally cleaned. Mainly just packed up the plating mess, since I've got a new bin for that, and don't need it just this second, then cleaned up the mess that made all over the place. Also remounted my magnifying lamp into the workbench itself.

Now I can get to the remaining patch. Template, etc. This one's just a rectangle, so should be simple, right?
No.
It's anything but flat, and has part of a reinforcing rib in it...
Getting there:
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A little more careful trimming and tweaking and it looks pretty good:
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Bead roller came through again on that rib.

Burned it:
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Did a slightly better welding job this time around.

Ground back:
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Found a few missed spots, so a few more tacks and more grinding,
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(still not going for perfect. Obviously.)

Bottom:
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Zinc spray:
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Not bad!

RED
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Frankenrex 05-31-22 11:47 AM

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Sunday was a honey-do day with my mother-in-law, but Monday was Memorial Day holiday (If you served, thank you for your Service, and remember those who died to give us the opportunities we have in the US), so on the the rest of the driver's side floor!
Seat out:
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Lots of crumbling foam and junk.

Started vacuuming up that, but the carpet tore while handling it, so out it comes and into the bin.
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Sound deadener/water retainer out:
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Initially doesn't look bad, but I'm concerned about those edges:
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Rightfully so:
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That's what I was bale to just pull out with bare fingers.

Short detour to install a set of threaded inserts into the floor and frame rail for the exhaust hanger.
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This year didn't originally have a cat, so didn't have the hanger that goes here, but I've retrofitted a later exhaust (originally had a later-model engine when I got the car) so installed the hanger long ago with big ass sheet metal screws.
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Worked OK, but a little janky.
Said hanger reinstalled:
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That done, I seam sealed the overlap underneath
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And then attacked it with bedliner.
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On further reflection, I think I'll be doing the bedliner on the inside too, to replace the asphalt sheet.

Frankenrex 05-31-22 11:51 AM

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Getting after said asphalt sheet with a scraper and a hammer.
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Surprise! that small hole was actually a big hole!

But wait, what's that above and to the left of the drain hole?
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<sigh>

Well, OK. I can fix that. It's above where one side of the frame rail is spot-welded to the floor pan, so only partially "through".

Now how about that bit on front of the seat?
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(also not that this is where one of the threaded inserts ends up. I probably have the hanger too far forward compared to factory, and that's supposed to end up under the seat mounting crossmember.)

Turned out that area wasn't bad. Just some surface rust.
A big pile of asphalt:
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All gone:
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A better look at that rust hole:
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A crack where one of the rear seat mounts sits:
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That'll need to be welded up.

Closer look at the from seat mounting crossmember area:
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A bit of nastiness in the behind-the-seat area:
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Guess I should have yanked the carpet years ago.
Ah, well.

After a bit of Goo Gone and mineral spirits to remove the remaining asphalt:
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The factory primer held up pretty well, just, you know hard to fight water held against the floor with the carpet and padding.

I'll get after the rust next chance I have.
I can't wait to see the passenger side...

Frankenrex 06-09-22 04:48 PM

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Sliced out the rust.

This bit was annoying, because not only was it an overlap with spot welds, but a triple layer:
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Note the reinforcement at the top right of the photo. That's the rocker coming in to join the party.

Removed paint around the seat mount in preparation of seam welding it.
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Noticed this in front of the rear wheel while crawling out from under the car:
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Ah.
That's fiberglass on the inside.
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I... think I might have "fixed" this years ago.
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Doesn't look like I killed the rust effectively.

I also looked briefly at the rear control arm mounting location, and I'm not happy about it.
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(that's after popping off a chunk of undercoating and splashing some phosphate on it.)
This is a common area for first gen RX-7s to rust out. It's got that reinforcing plate that likes to hold water and grime, and the storage bin area on the inside of it that also likes to hold water in the seam between the floor and wall. I'll be investigating that more thoroughly as I move rearward in the interior.

Templates.
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Trying out a new template material recommended by Puddin's Fab Shop on YT:
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$30 for that roll, and of course it's useful for it's original purpose of covering floors during construction - which I will be doing.
Pretty easy to work with. Somewhere between cardboard and craft paper.

I forgot to take a picture when I gathered it up, but this is all the change I found in the well where the handbrake mounts, after washing it and running it through the jewelry polisher just for the hell of it. It was all filthy - you can see a couple of the pennies still didn't clean up after 30 minutes in the tumbler:
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Making money back!

A mix of '70s and '90s, with a loan 1988 penny. Two of the quarters are bicentennials!

Frankenrex 06-09-22 04:49 PM

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Small patch fitted:
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Larger patch fitted:
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(got a little too aggressive on the nub that fills the spot-weld cutout on the one side. Gaps will be filled...)

(No, I'm not going to do anything about that rust at the base of the storage bin panel, other that wire brushing it and applying phosphate.)

The two patches side-by-side:
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I finally made some copper backing plates out of chunks of used copper tubing:
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Because I blew out the corner on the small patch:
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It was going pretty well up until then. The tight gaps helped immensely. Just got a little too aggressive filling the slit from cutting out the rust.

The backing plate worked great, actually:
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Other piece went in pretty well, too:
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Then I tried to weld up the small holes on the side, and made a mess.
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I *really* didn't want to cut another patch, so I just methodically filled it in. It was ugly, but functional.

I tried using a jack to get the floor and seat mount back to where they should be before welding, but it just... jacked the car up, since there's no engine.
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I tried helping by applying a 260-pound downforce from the top (AKA, my butt), but eventually just had to smack it from below with a deadblow a bit.

All welded up and ground back:
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A fresh flap-wheel on the grinder did wonders. I hadn't realized how worn out the one I was using was. Also was a finer grit to start with, I think.

Frankenrex 06-09-22 04:50 PM

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It took a couple iterations of grind - find hole - reweld on that side bit, but got it all nice enough eventually.

The crack by the seat mount took a bit more work. I discovered when I looked underneath that it went further - under the seat mount - that I realized from the top:
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That done, it meant I could mark off an item on the list:
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(also marked off "new radiator" because I didn't previously.)

All zinc coated:
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Wednesday I decided on a thing, and scuffed up the red paint, and put down seam sealer.
BTW, I hate 3M Dynatron seam sealer in the tube.
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This tube may have been on the shelf too long - it was almost too stiff to use when I used it previously (5/30/22 as noted on the tube) and was almost impossible to get out now, not even two weeks later. I was forcing it our and applying by gloved finger, until it literally popped the seam on the cap and squirted out a *lovely* ribbon of sealer.
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It was also making a mess inside:
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It really did not want to come out of the spout. This is after running a long screw down the spout to clear it even. Not sure where the problem is, but I had to throw out a half-full $17 tube. I stored it between uses capped with a silicone tube cap and in a sealed gallon Ziploc bag.
I ordered a can of brushable sealer instead for future use. Perhaps that will have better shelf life.

Moving on, sealer applied, and a bit of taping:
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Boom! Spray bedliner:
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....which promptly ran out before I was finished.
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I just made the executive decision to buy the Herculiner roll/brush bedliner kit. $95 at O'Reilly's, in stock, and will do an entire 6' bed, which should be good for most of my interior and some of the underside (should I not use it on the underside? I feel like the actual undercoat is not effective, particularly.)
I'm only going to be using the bedliner on the lower floorpan - the original stuff on the trans tunnel is intact, and I'm not worried about it trapping water due to the location and angles involved.
I'll wait until can get a look at the passenger side floor before I roll out the bedliner, though, so I can do it all in one shot.

Frankenrex 06-13-22 01:35 PM

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Back on the thing Saturday, this time the passenger side, with trepidation.
First, I had to remove this:
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from here:
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then remove that
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...how long have those coloring sheets been under there? The car was parked in 2010, but my daughter is 21 this year. Oh, right, she would have been... 9. Also, that's where that scraper went. Only need the things like 5 days a year on alternating years, but whwen you need one...

Decided to pull the rear speakers to get the wiring out of the way:
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Boss 8" 2-ways. Adequate, and they still appear to be intact. I'll try them out later and see if they disintegrate immediately.

So. On to the actual objective. First sight on removing the carpet.
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...Fffffff.

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FFFFFFFFFFFFF...

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Frankenrex 06-13-22 01:35 PM

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Removing the asphalt (and as you can see, the insulation from the trans tunnel as well.)
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Including the front bit that I previously left alone:
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F.

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Meh.

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F.
(do you see it?)

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F!

One last shot for Saturday:
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This is a modification to use a later transmission in an early car. For those that don't know, series 1 RX-7s use a direct-shifted transmission, which put the shifter rather far forward, with a bend in the shifter for clearance. The Series 2 and later transmissions had a remote rail shifter that allowed for a shorter straight lever, further back. I had to cut the hole back, and add a plate to cover the difference at the front. This old on is light gauge tin - I'll be replacing that with a heavier piece made from the same material I'm using for patching (AKA a 50 gallon drum top.)

Sunday morning, the first order of business was shade:
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Because:
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Frankenrex 06-13-22 01:36 PM

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After a couple hours removing the remains of the asphalt:
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Thankfully, the majority of the floorpan is clean, with a little surface rust.

After a boat-load of wire brushing:
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...which of course opened up more holes. Note the daylight showing in the passenger footwell above,
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and
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and
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Phosphate applied:
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This time I got smart and used a diluted mix in a chemical sprayer (basically a heavy duty weed sprayer.) This also allowed me to spray it inside the seat mounting crossmember on both sides, and in the rockers.

I totally forgot to get picks of the underside, but I spent some time removing any loose undercoating, and some that wasn't loose, and spray phosphate under there, too.

A bit more welding in the future, if I don't melt going outside. Man, I wish I had a shop, or at least a clear garage...
I'm not entirely sure how I'm going to handle that seat mount. It still feels solid, amazingly, but those holes have to be filled, at least the ones in the floor.

VA RX7 06-13-22 05:22 PM

Rust is extremely frustrating. I plan to tear into the 79' soon and there is not telling how much rust it has. Waiting to get completely finished on my 84 before I fully commit to that mess. Your commitment to detail in every spot of rust is very encouraging. Keep up the great work.

Frankenrex 06-13-22 09:58 PM

Thanks. I want none of that red demon in my car. Entropy ticks me off. Curse you, Newton, and your third law!

Frankenrex 09-28-22 09:12 AM

Not a lot (well, no, actually) progress.
I did just get the multiprocess stick/TIG/plasma machine I backed on Kickstarter, so maybe my welds will improve.


...after a lot of practice with the new machine. I've never run TIG before.
Plasma cutter might make certain operation faster, though, for sure.

Frankenrex 11-16-22 05:50 PM

Yeah, still no progress, sorry.
Though, if anyone has a wrecked SA/FB in north Texas, I need a chunk of the passenger floor with the rearward outboard seat mount. I'd really rather replace that with original steel than try to fabricobble one up. Hit me up.

RX7_Renesis 11-16-22 06:03 PM

I can't help you with the floor .. however I do have a SA/FB Passenger Side Door (Right Side) if that helps.

The door is posted in the New RX7 Marketplace .. however it's a Canadian Listing so I don't imagine it gets many views in the USA.

https://www.rx7club.com/market/1159619



Frankenrex 11-17-22 10:49 AM

Thanks - I have an extra pair of doors. I have spare cars for that matter, but I'm not going to cut up a usable chassis.

Frankenrex 02-22-23 12:06 PM

Starting to warm up, so hopefully I can get back on this thing soon.
Home projects and such getting in the way, of course, but "livable house" tends to triumph over "unnecessary sports car".

Frankenrex 04-17-23 04:18 PM

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I looked briefly at my RX-7 this past weekend. The car cover was tattered, so I put a new cheap one on. First time in the sun this year, I think:
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But of course I noticed the driver's door:
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and driver's rear fender lip:
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Little crazing behind the driver's door that might be concerning:
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And of course the sunroof is rusting from the inside out:
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Some of this I obviously already knew about - the rear fender rust I think has been treated, looks like. The popping bondo and bubbling on the driver's door is new. I have another set of doors, not to mention 3 other RX-7s, so no really big deal, but... <sigh>.
I'm leaning toward using one of them for floor pan slices, etc. since that one has a police-issued (theft) VIN that we do not have the title for. Might be un-title-able. It's already red, at least. '82 GSL automatic. I've already stolen the suspension out of it, then swapped that with the GSL-SE I have, so the '82 is sitting on my original '79 suspension, and the transmission is out, I think in my shed.


Anyway, new car cover.
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