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Frankenrex 10-01-18 03:52 PM

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Supplies for today's adventures:
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2-1/4" bi-metal hole saw. I didn't have *any* hole saws for metal, nor a 2-1/4". The actual hole I need is 2-1/2", but it's got an 1/8" lip that I need to account for, hence 2-1/4".

To start off on the cowl rust, I used a small grinding stone on the Dremel to get rid of the thin, jagged edges:
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Then slathered it in the epoxy:
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Terrible picture. I'm sorry.

The rust over by the hinge:
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After a little cleanup:
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The cowl area will probably get POR-15, and probably a coat of seam sealer, and will get painted with the epoxy primer along with everything else.

So, since there was rust on the driver's side, let's go have a look at the other side.
Wide angle was posted a few pics up. Didn't look too bad, but given what was in the other side, I was concerned. Can we get a look in here?:
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Uh oh

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FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF... dang.

Frankenrex 10-01-18 03:53 PM

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No access from the wiper area:
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That's also where the HVAC picks up outside air.

On this one, I decided to punt and ignore it in favor of something I can actually do right now, while I mull over solutions. I did hit it with rust converter for the time being, as much as I could reach.
Really, I have two options: 1)ignore it (not going to happen. That's a direct hole from outside to inside the car, BTW, and my brain isn't going to *let* me ignore it...) and 2) cut or otherwise remove that reinforcing piece to allow access. It's a bunch of spot welds, some of which may be difficult to get to, so may have to cut as well. That means I'm going to need to get gas for my MIG if I want to have any hope of putting it back together decently. Fluxcore is a pain with sheet metal. As far as the rust repair, fiberglass would work fine, since it's non-structural, but I have a MIG welder. :)

I'll figure that out. On to making a
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big hole in the firewall.
If I needed to make several flanged holes, I'd probably ask my dad to turn up a flanging die, but I only need the one. I came across the concept of a "bob stick" while researching flanging dies, used in the homebuilt aircraft arena. There, it's used to just put a roughly 15-20-degree flange on a hole for strength, same as you would with a dimple die. They get to use wood sticks, since they're working with light gauge aluminum.
Flanging Lightening Holes with the "Bob Stick" - Feature - EAA Video

I'm working with steel, and just to add to the difficulty, I need a 90-degree flange, and it's only a 2-14" hole.
Start with a piece of steel rod that used to be the pivot lever for a sink drain, and cut a slot in it
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I decided a practice run would be in order to refine technique.
Steel from the top cover of a hard drive, with 2-1/4" hole (since this was a test, the hole was made with my air nibbler, then finished out with a grindstone and sanding roll.) 2-1/2" circle was marked out beforehand as a guide.

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Test was successful:
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The stick got it most of the way there, then a little work with a small ball-peen got the flange to 90 degrees. This time the hole ended up slightly less than 2-1/2" - I discovered that you need to have the end of the stick a bit past where you actually want the bend, to account for the radius of the bend. Also, on this sheet metal, the slot in the stick was a little loose, making it harder to bend when it started getting closer to 90. A taller flange would actually be easier to bend, since you'd have more material to grip.


Even though the hole was a bit small, the grommet fit with a little squeezing:
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Now it's time for the real thing.

Frankenrex 10-01-18 03:54 PM

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Marked and pilot hole drilled:
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Using my 2-1/2" hole saw as a template to mark the outer edge:
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...ah. The new hole saw is a bit tall. I could have made it slightly shorter by using the mandrel it came with, but probably still not short enough.

I don't have a 90-degree drill (yet), but I do have one of those adapters:
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Here we go!

Hole.
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(the bendy straw on new WD-40 cans is pretty handy.)

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Let the light shine in

Now to get that flange bent up!
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...ah.

Fine. Mr. Hacksaw would like to speak to you.
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Frankenrex 10-01-18 03:55 PM

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Bob stick worked pretty well up to about 80 degrees, then it became unhappy.
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I cut a new slot in the other end, thinking that the first slot had fatigued after bending one hole and most of the second:
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but:
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Nope.

So I went after it with the ball-peen hammer. It needed a bit more work thean the first hole, and the close quarters presented a challend, but it worked:
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2-1/2":
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Grommet fits and stays put:
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I actually overshot just a bit, and went back and tightened it back down a hair by bending the flange back in a tad.
It will get sanded and made prettier for painting while prepping the rest of the engine bay. That's the next step: a whole lot of sanding.

Whee!

I'll need to make a decision on the passenger side rust. I should be able to work on that without damaging the engine bay paint if I don't do the repair first, but I would prefer to not take the chance. Nothing says I can't do the epoxy primer in several sections or steps, though, if necessary.

RGHTBrainDesign 10-02-18 10:13 PM

Great work!

Frankenrex 10-02-18 10:31 PM

Thanks! I wish I had a shop where I could just blow this thing apart and do it the right way...
I *almost* have enough room to at least get it into the garage, since I sold the GSL-SE that was in there for almost 18 years a while back. Just need to clean up and/or get rid of some of the stuff that was in, on, and under the SE, and clear out a few other projects.
Hopefully I can swing a Max Jax soon-ish so I can at least get it a few feet up in the air (I don't have enough ceiling height for a full size lift. One day...)
In the short term, I need that C25 bottle for my MIG.

Frankenrex 10-16-18 11:02 AM

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So, it pretty much rained all weekend, and I had a few other things to do. It actually didn't rain on Sunday until about 5, but I didn't trust the weather enough to uncover the car and start on anything. Man, I need to clear out the garage so I can get this thing inside when needed.
Amusingly, it was mid-to-high 70s on Saturday and Sunday until the afternoon, then the cold front rolled in, and the rain. It was 42 this morning (all temperatures are in 'Mercan.) Yay Texas weather.

Anyhow, I wanted to try this electroplating stuff, so I did that. Results were encouraging.

Supplies:
1 gallon white vinegar
1 gallon distilled water (tap water probably would have been fine.)
1 gallon muriatic acid
Zinc anode
table salt
sugar
copper wire
4.8V 200 mA DC power supply
clip leads

First step in my case was to get some more reasonably-sized anodes. You may recall that I bought 10 pounds of zinc - it was in convenient cornbread wedges:
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I took the thinner one on the far right and sawed off a couple of strips:
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I really need to go retrieve my bandsaw. This took a bit with a hacksaw.

And drilled holes for wires:
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I have a bunch of old Romex around, so the stripped wire from that proved handy. Vinegar plus a tablespoon of salt, and the two electrodes and we're making peanut butter zinc solution.
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Never mind the shavings on the bottom. I thought it wouldn't hurt to collect the filings from sawing and throw them in to dissolve. It probably won't hurt, but probably doesn't help, either.

You wire one anode positive, and one negative (which actually makes it a cathode, of course) and let it run a couple hours to get zinc in solution. It can be done without doing so, but this jump starts the plating.

The complete setup:
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"Acid" is mostly distilled water with a cup or two of muriatic acid, as a final clean and etch fro the hardware. Distilled water to rinse the acid off.

I selected some suitable hardware:
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The sacrificial lambs.

This is the hardware after media blasting:
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The three bolts on the right have been wire-wheeled after blasting, the one on the left and the flat hardware are as-blasted, just to show the difference. I wheeled the remaining bolt before plating, but left the washer and brake line retainer as they were, just to see how much it affected the final finish.
I should probably change out the media in my blaster for this - the "black beauty" (coal slag) is a bit too aggressive. Great for rust on cast iron, though, and leaves a hell of an etch.

Mount everything on copper wire, hang from my bus bar tube, and apply power. Negative to part, and positive to the two anodes (the opposite of when using this kind of rig for electrolytic rust removal.)
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She be chooching right proper!

I kept them in about 10 minutes. Rotated them 180 degrees at 3 minutes, and then shifted the bus tube about 45 degrees one way at the next 3 minutes, then the other after a couple minutes, to make sure coverage was decent.

Parts right out of the solution:
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Not bad. Sort of cast-iron grey, though it tends to go more primer grey when dried.

After a quick trip tot he wire wheel:
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Brightened up nicely.

Frankenrex 10-16-18 11:03 AM

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Next up, the flat stuff:
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Out of the first plate:
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Wire wheeled:
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Note that whatever texture you have, you're going to get after plating. It's pretty thing, so won't fill pits or anything.

I did the bolts a second round. After wheeling:
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Looking good.

And the flat stuff after a second go and wheeling:
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OK, a different set of flat hardware. This time I added a tablespoon of sugar to the solution. Some sources claim that reduces crystallization and therefore increases brightness.
After media blasting AND wire wheeling:
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Frankenrex 10-16-18 11:04 AM

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Fresh out of the bath:
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After a trip to the wheel:
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After bath #2:
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After wheeling again:
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Oh, yeah, I like it. Couldn't really see any difference re: the sugar, but the primer grey stuff wheels off easily regardless.

I did another set of bolts, and got an interesting result after rinsing them in the water:
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Frankenrex 10-16-18 11:04 AM

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I think this may because of residual acid in the rinse. Probably should use a separate rinse for plated parts.
It wheeled off OK:
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I've got them sitting out to see if they do it again. It's actively raining here, so there should be plenty of moisture in the air.

All the hardware I did on Sunday:
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For something useful, I did a 5/16" driver bit that was looking a bit manky. I neglected to take a "before picture", but basically the black phosphate that was on it originally gave up years ago, and it was that patina that steel gets when it's not exactly rusty, but it's not clean or polished, plus a little actual surface rust. This one I just hit with the wire wheel, no media blasting.

Out of the first plate.
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The dark band on the shaft is where the connecting wire/hanger was, and is therefore not plated. That's the color it comes out of the acid dip with.

Wire wheeled:
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Again, note the bad of non-plated steel.

I shifted the hanger wire to the groove for the second dip. Fresh out of dip #2:
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And brushed:
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Yeah, I'm going to be plating everything I can get my hands on.
I'd like to pick up some nickel anodes so I can nickel plate stuff that needs to be really pretty. Interior hardware and such.

RGHTBrainDesign 10-20-18 12:07 PM

Love the fact that you're restoring hardware instead of just hunting down Hondas at PickNPull for all their top grade hardware. :lol:

Frankenrex 10-21-18 11:52 AM

I like using the correct hardware if I can. Nothing wrong with the Honda stuff, or honestly Most Japanese OEM hardware. I'm sure you know they tend to zinc plate everything, so it holds up well. Mines just sort of run out of zinc after 40 years, LOL.
This has opened up so much for me - I can plate anything steel. So much better than painting for rust and, especially, wear resistance from tools and such.
Now I need to scale up, and build a plating barrel for bulk plating fasteners and small items.

Frankenrex 11-05-18 03:53 PM

Small update. No new progress on the car itself. I've put a little effort into cleaning up my AE86 so I can sell it. The plan was always to sell that car to help pay for the '79. I traded my '90 GXL (with rear seat!) for the AE86 ('87 Corolla SR5 coupe) since I got no bites on the '90 when I tried to sell it outright. Figured the AE86 would be easier to sell pretty much no matter what condition it's in.
I also noticed on some of the bolts I plated, that the more pitted ones did not plate into the actual pits, it seems. Probably those areas were "in shadow" with respect to the current. The ones in better shape are holding up OK just sitting around in the garage. I think I will build a plating drum to tumble them while plating. Should mitigate that somewhat, and allow mass plating with less setup. Also need a viratory tumbler to clean the hardware before painting.

Frankenrex 12-07-18 08:40 PM

For the 2 or 3 of you subscribed (I'm an optimist!), I'm still alive. It's just, you know, winter, and even in Texas that means crappy weather, and I still don't have room in the garage yet. Not a dang thing has been accomplished on the '7, I'm afraid.
Anyone reading this happen to have an FC big brake adapter kit they want to sell? Looks like there's a vendor on eBay now. No idea on quality.
I keep waffling between just the FC brakes, or the wholesale FC subframe.
I do have a set f Tokico Illuminas for my '84 struts, at least. I should probably investigate springs or a coilover conversion before I put it all back together, not that the struts are difficult on our cars.

Frankenrex 02-09-19 08:28 PM

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No new update on the SA per se, but I've been refining and improving my plating rig. I had to bump up to a bigger (3A) wall wart in order to get some large bumper bolts for my AE86 project done - the little 300 mA supply just couldn't get it done. I've got a real power supply now, a fish tank bubbler, and a heater, all of which should improve plating consistency and quality, and bought some chromating solutions from Caswell Plating.
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I've done the black chromate, and it worked pretty well. I need to find the hardware I plated for the RX-7 previously and try the gold and silver-blue chromates on them. I seem to have hidden that hardware from myself somewhere. I've also gathered up the parts to make a small-scale plating barrel so I can plate a bunch of stuff at once, without having to hang everything on wires.

Frankenrex 04-09-19 12:59 PM

Anti-archive post.
It's finally getting warm enough to work on this thing outdoors again, consistently. Now if it will stop raining every weekend...
Plating barrel is almost complete, so I can bulk plate everything.

chuyler1 04-09-19 02:21 PM

Just read through your thread, looking forward to seeing all these plated parts on the chassis. Quick question, with the harness firewall grommet, did you find a new grommet or was that off the parts car? It looked clean, couldn't tell.

Frankenrex 04-09-19 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by chuyler1 (Post 12340852)
Just read through your thread, looking forward to seeing all these plated parts on the chassis. Quick question, with the harness firewall grommet, did you find a new grommet or was that off the parts car? It looked clean, couldn't tell.

That's the original from the parts car. I think I cleaned it up a little before messing with it. I hate putting dirty stuff back on the car...

Frankenrex 04-25-19 11:01 PM

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Last weekend I put the front crossmember and suspension back on it so I could move it out of the driveway. Had roofers coming, and they needed the driveway for their waste trailer.
Start:
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Add 3.5 hours:
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then winch and push to curb parking:
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It's now back in position in front of the garage, where all its missing parts currently live. Hopefully will have some time to work on it some more, soon, now that it's warm enough.

That was also the first time all the GSL-SE steering gear - column, mounts, and box - were installed, and it all went in perfectly, which was a relief. I have gas for my MIG, excuse me, GMAW welder, so I should be able to fix that rust inside the passenger upper chassis member. Just need to get in there with a spot weld cutter and go to town for access.

Frankenrex 07-05-19 03:06 PM

I'll get back on this soon, I promise. The AE86 is about done as I care to make it, and ready to sell, then I can focus on the '7, home and daily driver projects allowing.

rx787b 07-10-19 12:56 AM

I’m looking forward to the updates. You’ve got a lot of talent.

Frankenrex 07-10-19 08:55 PM

Thanks! Really, I just keep beating on things until I get it right. Repeat for 49 years, and you're bound to pick up something....

Frankenrex 09-16-19 11:20 AM

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So, actual progress on the RX-7, as tentatively promised!

Got here uncovered, and took a look at how the engine bay weathered the months:
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Not terrible. Most of the phosphate held up.
A few areas where I must have gotten it on too thin.

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The front suspension is back in because I had to move the car so the roofers could use the driveway a few months ago.

Today, we will be focusing here:
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And here's a hint of why:
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Spot welds center punched and hit with a small drill to help keep the cutter centered, and a couple already cut there on the left.
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Whoops, got a little too aggressive and went all the way through
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I've got the plug that came out, and will hold that there with a magnet when I start welding everything back in.

Almost ready to go. Had to get the upper ones from the top, because the shape of the stamping occluded access from the bottom.
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That was annoying, because there are several spots along there where layers overlap, and it was difficult to judge the cut.
A few touch ups to the cuts and a bit off wiggling, though, and out it came:
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uh, oh. Do you see what I see?

Frankenrex 09-16-19 11:21 AM

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Yep. That's why this had to come off.
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There was no way I could live with myself knowing that was there unrepaired.

How about a nice, close, well-lit shot (automotive gore warning):
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Yes, I know it's nothing by northeast/Canuckistan standards, but this is TEXAS!

A little poking and prodding, and this chunk of sealer came out, opening up the smaller hole a bit:
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Beginning cancer removal:
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One more little chink up there at the top right:
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And I'm done. The smaller group of pinholes up and towards the door I'll back with brass and weld to fill. Or maybe just epoxy. Nah, I have a welder!

Frankenrex 09-16-19 11:22 AM

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A wee bit of rust on the inside of the removed panel. Not terrible:
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Chucked the panel into the media blaster for a quick run:
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Man, I love that blaster.

I had a visitation.
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No idea. It just wandered into the garage, then back out.

A combination of wire brushes/wheels, Scotchbrite wheels, and rust remover wheels got me to here:
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Before I started spraying, I blew out the cowl area adjacent to the repair and got all this:
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The area right next to where I'm working is largely inaccessible. It's the pick-up for the HVAC, and mostly blocked to try to prevent that crap from getting into the car:
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That all came from the other side of the vertical panel with the slot.

Frankenrex 09-16-19 11:22 AM

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Shot some weld-through zinc primer on the panel:
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And then on the repair area:
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Especially inside:
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That area is the end of the A-pillar, and is pretty much inaccessible when that giant hole isn't there, except for the little round hole in there, and the holes where the drain tube for the sunroof go through.
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All the junk that fell down to the ground:
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I went through two Dremel reinforced cutting wheels, and several rol-lok Scothbrite pads. Their sacrifice was worthy, though.

Next, I need to cut a couple patches and weld them in. I'm debating on how exactly I will do the patches. The rust seems to have been largely because two bits come together there, and create a mostly-sealed area that traps moisture. The inner piece needs to be sealed from outside, because it's the inside of the car, but I think I may leave/create some breathing holes in the outer piece. That location is covered by the inner fender, so there should be no direct splashing. I'm also going to coat the inner area with POR-15 after the first patch is in place, before I weld in the outer bit.
Some of that might get done this week if I'm not wiped out after work, but definitely will NOT get done next weekend - I'm working the video room at a local sci-fi con Fri-Sun.
http://www.fencon.org/, for those that are local enough to Dallas (Irving, actually) and of a science fiction bent.

Frankenrex 09-30-19 01:58 PM

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While ordering some other stuff on Amazon, I decided to pick this up:
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I'd made one out of wood that was serviceable, but this one was :tenbux: and adds the ring stand for the filter.

Seems to work well enough, though I either need to raise it, or have it at the edge of the table, due to my attached at-gun regulator.
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I may attach a larger base to both raise it and make it more stable. It's fairly stable as-is, but it's clearly designed to be screwed down to a table or wall.

I finally made time to move on with rust repair.

Step one, find some replacement steel:
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Chunks from a Harbor Freight blasting cabinet that I cut out on top to add a light.

CAD work:
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Check fit, sand/grind, repeat, until:
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Frankenrex 09-30-19 01:59 PM

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Ready to weld:
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Just got gas and changed out to .024 wire, so a couple test welds:
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That looked OK, so off I go.

Jiminy fragging Christmas, the actual weld didn't go near that well.
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I think maybe I should have wire-brushed the weld-through primer off.

Fine. "Grinder and paint..."
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This will be behind another later, so, meh.

Speaking of, more CAD for that filler:
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And said filler:
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But first, that upper hole, while I can get to the back side for templating and such. More CAD (not shown,) and a little shaping:
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Frankenrex 09-30-19 02:00 PM

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I figure I could fill those pinholes above it with weld. Not only was I wrong about that, the weld on the filler didn't go well. You don't get a "before" because man, it looked *terrible*, and I was getting pissed off by that point - a sure sign that I should have stopped sooner.
I ground that mess down.. and opened more holes, as well as wrecking the edge of the larger hole below.
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I stopped there. It was dark by this time, and I'm outside in the driveway. Not only did that go badly, somewhere along the way, I let the grinder get away from me and zapped the edge of my door:
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Now I have to fix that, too. Argh.

Sunday, after several hours of killin' fools in Battlefield V the night before, I was in a much better mood.
Started out addressing how the hole in the outer layer had opened up, and my patch no longer fit. First, trim the ragged edge to something smoother than can actually be fabricated:
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Not CAD, byt TAD (Tape-Aided Design):
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Cut new additional patch:
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Weld, grind, and adjust fit:
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(The weld on that went a lot better - I neglected to take a picture before grinding, though.)

With that fitted, I need to patch the upper hole while I can still reach the back side for templeting and fitment purposes. Again, trim the ragged edges, then a little more CAD:
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Frankenrex 09-30-19 02:01 PM

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File and sand to fit:
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(lower part will be tapped down after the vertical bit is tacked.)

Weld:
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UGH.

Welder did not like welding here. Settings should have been spot-on for the metal, wire, and gas. It welded fine putting the two other patch pieces together. I *think* it's because I had to hold the gun a little further out than it wanted due to the tight space, and the gas wasn't shielding quite as much as needed. I should have probably upped the flow a bit.

Grinding down revealed some pinholes and a chunk that didn't penetrate properly:
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I went through several iterations of weld, grind, find a hole, repeat. Finally, I got it down to no holes, and just lightly ground it, then primered:
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It's ugly as heck, but it's solid. Fortunately, it can't be seen with the fender on.
This is where I stopped. It was 7 PM, and would be getting dark, and dinner was ready. I'll get to the other patch shortly. God willing, that should go a bit better. It's much more accessible. Then I will need to do some seam sealing, and paint, then replacing the brace that was spot-welded over all that. That should be the last of the rust up front - I'm dreading the entirely missing lower right rear quarter panel.

After the patch is complete, I can go back to more sanding and surface rust removal in the engine bay, then 2K epoxy primer, then red. Will have to remove the suspension and steering gear again, though.

Good Lord I hate rust.

Frankenrex 10-07-19 03:14 PM

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More actual work - more rust repair! Still not done, of course.

Taped up the edges of the hole, since I did not want to be grinding cured POR-15 so I could weld later:
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Applied POR-15, tried to get it all the way back in there:
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Had some left over, so did the area where the battery tray goes, and some hard-to sand spots in the bumper mount areas:
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While that was curing for the second coat (2 hours+) I thought about the driver's side, and decided maybe I should take a closer look there, as well, since I'd done a little repair there already with epoxy.

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Not as bad, but glad I checked:
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Frankenrex 10-07-19 03:15 PM

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Trimmed the ragged crap:
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I still need to trim the hole out to square for ease of filling.
So on this one, I think I may just weld the outer layer to the inner layer there at the cut. The inner layer curves back rearward at that point. I don't thein the outer skin above that point adds much strength, if any, though I may add still add a piece back in to help support the top of the fender/cowl right there, just in case. Probably just a corner, to prevent forming a catch basin like OEM.

Surface rust and seam sealer wire-brushed back:
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This needs to be fixed:
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The hose from the sunroof drain isn't long enough, and drips into the kick panel. This pic after primer show better what I mean:
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I tried to pull the hose through more, but its brittle and just... broke.

Leftover grit from blasting still hiding out in the upper chassis member:
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I blew that out, along with all the sanding dust and such from removing the rust and seam sealer.
I forgot something when I did that:
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POR-15 is sticky and takes a long time to not be. So the grit and dirt got semi-permanently embedded in that particular bit of POR-15. I'll have to sand that down, if not remove entirely, when it dries. :(

Applied second coat, then headed out the the local RX-7 club meet, where my AE86 soiled itself and refused to start for an hour or so. Still don't know what that was about. Seemed like the mechanical fuel pump quit, but after letting it sit, it started up without too much fuss, and drove home perfectly. I'm glad Mazda went with electric fuel pumps way back.

Sunday, back at it.
POR-15 crept under the tape a bit, but still much less of a pain to clean up:
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Frankenrex 10-07-19 03:16 PM

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Patch in place.
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I tacked what was lined up, then body-hammered the bits that were out closer in. It actually went pretty well for a change:
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Still kind of ugly welds, but better. Didn't blow through anywhere. I did have to fill a couple small spots I missed, after I ground it down (which was the reason I ground it down, really,) but nothing major. Ground flat(ter):
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Zinc primer:
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And just to be sure, and to replace the old seam sealer that dried up and fell out of the factory seams, fresh seam sealer:
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I'm letting that cure and will hit it all with some regular primer. I should probably mix up a small batch of the catalyzed epoxy primer, but, eh.
Also got after the grit in the POR-15 over at the battery tray location:
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I'll have to re-do that application when I coat the driver's side repair.

While I had the welder and such out, I filled a hole in the engine compartment area where I removed a bracket, but got too zealous with the spot-weld cutter and went through. It went terribly. Poor penetration/adhesion, sputtering, crappy looking welds, pinholes. Took a bunch of tried, grinding it down and welding again, to get it somewhat presentable.
Can you guess what the problem was, beyond my lack of skill? The result was this reminder label:
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...yeah. I turned the bottle off when I went to the store briefly. And forgot to turn it back on.
At least I remembered to check all my *other* settings before I started to weld then and at the beginning of the day. Good thing, too, because my wire speed dial has almost no resistance to turning, and will spin to some new, exciting value at the drop of a hat.
Hopefully that particular error won't happen again. I was surprised that it welded as well as it did, now.

Next update: more of the same, but on the driver's side! #wow

Narfle 10-14-19 02:31 AM

Great work on the metal repair!

Frankenrex 10-14-19 02:58 AM

Thanks! I'm hoping I can make enough mistakes here where it doesn't matter, cosmetically, so I can do a decent job on the right rear lower quarter where some previous owner let the antenna leak. I'm basically missing the lower 3" or so of body back there!

Frankenrex 12-30-19 10:01 AM

Still winter, and still working on the garage remodel/re-org, which is going well. I don't know if I'll actually be able to get a car in there completely, but I will at least be able to nose one in to work on it when I'm done, which will be nice.

Frankenrex 01-02-20 03:36 PM

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While rearranging and putting up stuff in the garage, I found these:
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The SE badge I found in a wrecking yard - it's broken between the "S" and "E", but I repaired it and repainted the black. No pins on the back, either, so it would have to use trim tape to mount it.
The black "Mazda" is an original part. The two silver ones are aluminum I cut on a waterjet years ago. One is polished, and the other is brush finished. Both are exactly the same size as the original part. I also cut two in stainless steel. Those two are on the '79. Well, one is, on the rear. The other is in the parts tubs at the moment, since the front of the car is disassembled.

Also this:
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This is a spare of the wide gas pedal cover I made - the flared out part lines up with the brake pedal for easier heel-and-toe action (not that I can make my big ol' feet do that in this car...) This was my first attempt at the pedal cover, and I used the wrong setting to do the etching, I think. It came out a little rough. I also have no idea why I went with three "MAZDAs" instead of modeling the "RX-7" logo as well. I wish I still had access to that waterjet. I could make so many things with it...

Frankenrex 06-04-20 04:42 PM

Not dead.
Finally not cold, but was still renovating/organizing garage. Now COVID-19 sort of slowing things down. You'd think WFH might allow some time for that, but I'm actually *working* from home, since I'm in IT. Kind of saps the will, honestly. I'm at home, but can't do home stuff.
Will get back on it, though. Really want to drive my baby again.

Now if I can get someone to buy the AE86, I'll have some dosh to buy goodies, too. COVID-19 not making that easier, either.

Frankenrex 06-23-20 04:29 PM

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I actually did something!
So, I had actually forgotten that I had removed the brace on the driver's side to assess the rust over there, but I found it when I organized all the parts from the project into something slightly more organized than "a pile".

Parts on the shelves, shelves are straddling the trans that was in the car.
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I had made some mods to my media blaster (foot pedal operation, better vacuum attachment port, and more lighting) and was itching to use it, so I grabbed that brace and went to town on it.

Start:
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Just some minor surface rust where it was sandwiched against the other panels.
The blaster worked fine. I was concerned that the pedal wouldn't flow enough air, but it seemed to be sufficient, and *way* easier on the hands.

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And after some zinc weld-through:
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I love making clean metal like that. Messy as heck, especially if you don't have a cabinet, but the end result is so satisfying.

Hopefully I can keep momentum and at least do some smaller stuff consistently on the '7.



Frankenrex 07-07-20 07:28 PM

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Did some stuff, but first, while picking up a prescription for my sick wife, I found these at Walgreens:
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1967 Toyota 2000GT, and a pair of 1974 Mazda RX-3s with their race pants on, all from Jada Toys. Nicely detailed, with opening doors, about 1/43 scale. All are RHD, BTW.
Walgreens also had the 2000GT in white with orange striping, all black with plain tires, and all red with plain tires. They also had modified NA Miatas in 2 colors, as well. Nice!

A week or so ago:
OK, so, frigging rust on the driver's side.
Here's what I got:
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That entire area should be covered by another layer. For comparison, this is the repaired passenger side:
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I cut the hole
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square, for easier fitment, then cut and shaped a patch:
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The lumpy sh*t above and to the right of the patch is JB weld I used to patch the pinholes I was able to see before removing the brace that was media blasted in the last episode. For reference, this is what the area should look like with said brace (passenger side shown):
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I did the epoxy quite some time ago, before I had a welder. At any rate, some of it had to be ground back to clean metal in order to weld in the patch.

And then I did my usual stellar job of welding in the patch. Man, I need more practice.
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Grinder and paint...
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At least penetration was adequate. I did have to re-weld a couple spots where it wasn't, but not too bad. Also had to weld up a pinhole I found to the right of the patch while smoothing everything down. I didn't get it perfect because this is not only under the fender, but will be under another layer. Mainly ground down to make sure it's actually welded to the surrounding steel.

Next up was the broken sunroof drain hose. The end completely snapped off, and it was basically draining into the kick-panel (which has a drain itself, but I don't care to depend on that.)
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Getting in the car, I note another thing I'll need to fix:
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Frankenrex 07-07-20 07:29 PM

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Drain hose, as noted above, goes through the kick panel area, passing above and forward of the speaker that mounts there from the factory:
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(the thing with the grey stripe. That's excess primer from me spraying the inside of the rust repair that followed the hose.)

Drain hose going up, speaker, power mirror, and power lock wiring going to the door on the left:
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The drain connects up to the sunroof in the headliner, of course. Up in this area:
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Vinyl headliner, so it's all glued around the edges, and attached to the sunroof weatherstripping. I started to remove that corner, thinking I would replace the entire hose, then decided I didn't want to tangle with that headliner just now, plus the sunroof was actually stuck to the weatherstripping (pop-up sunroof, not sliding) and I couldn't open it easily, so I decided to punt and only replace the bottom bit.
I cut off the broken end, both to square it up, and to give me something to size a barb union with. It turned out to be 3/8" ID, or near enough. I just happened to have a couple of short lengths of 3/8" hose that came with a fuel pump or something in my stash of hose and tube, and hit up Home Depot for a union:
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Fits!:
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Shoved into the car end:
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And poked through (with a bit of wiggling. It was a close fit, which is fine, and the remaining original hose is stiff, making it difficult to line up with the hole):
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Excellent!

Now back to that rust.
CAD (cardboard aided design):
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That corner bit folds, and will require a filler piece to make it work, I think. Will be able to tell more with the actual metal in there. The cardboard is a bit too floppy.
That's as far as I got on that, but I got a couple other things done as well. I do intend to POR-15 that area before welding the next layer on. I really don't want to have to ever deal with this again.

Frankenrex 07-07-20 07:29 PM

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I did note that I'll need a new windshield before I can re-register it. There's a new crack right across the driver's view. That wasn't there when I parked it
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Previously, it was only the crack at the bottom, and up the passenger side, which were fine per the law. I mean, I was still going to replace it, but now it's a "have to."
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Pictures of cracks in glass are difficult to capture...

As it sat then:
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(I do throw the fenders and hood back on, just hanging there, and put a car cover on it.)

Frankenrex 07-07-20 07:32 PM

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Saturday, the Fourth of July, I did approximately jack. So Sunday, I made myself go out and work on the RX-7 a bit.

Last episode, we had a template:
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Now we have it marked out on actual steel:
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(This was the casing for a VCR, as I recall. This is the drop from when I made new glove mounting rings - well, ovals, actually - to replace the melted plastic ones on my blasting cabinet that survived a fire. It's a little light, at about 22 ga., when the car is mostly 20 ga., but it'll do here.)

I still haven't made a mount for my vice on the workbench, so I attached it temporarily to my welding table to bend up the patch.
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I probably should have used my smaller one. It's got sharper corners on the jaws. This one is pretty beat up. I really should build a small bending brake to clamp in it instead.

Test fit #437, before bending the corner bit, as that doesn't affect fitment, but fitment will affect it.
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This is after the vertical corner at the top (behind the cardboard) was welded to set the position, so I could then trim the angled corner to fit:
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The cardboard is to make a pattern to fill the gap at the top that I completely failed to measure properly.

Said gap filler in place (overhanging end will be trimmed after welding):
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And you can see the
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corner weld I was talking about.

Welded inside:
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and out:
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Outside welds are marginally better. For one thing, I wasn't worried too much about penetration on the outside welds, as that's mainly for appearance.
A couple rounds with the flap-wheel got me to here:
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FWIW, none of the welds flaked off or broke, so I guess they were adequate. I didn't try to dress the inside welds. Out of sight, out of mind. Actually, all of this will be out of sight... but I think of it as practice for stuff that *will* be visible.

Another hour or so of fettling, trimming, careful disc- and belt-sander work, and the fit is acceptable to me. I'm not ecstatic about the gaps, but they are manageable, I think. I *probably* should have made this two or three separate pieces, welded together in place. Ah, well. I'm not up to the Binky level yet, obviously.

Since I had the upper hinge loose to get it out of the way (the weld will be right at the angled edge of the hinge,) I took that opportunity to de-crustify it.
Before:
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After,
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Sooooo satisfying.

Frankenrex 07-07-20 07:33 PM

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I threw the patch in just to guarantee a good surface for painting.
Somehow, I didn't take pictures, but the hinge bolts also went in the cabinet. They cleaned up beautifully as well.

I got out the POR-15 to coat the area that will end up behind the patch, and, while I was at it, I cleaned up the hinge mounting point (no pic), and the rusty area outside of where the dead-pedal mounts:
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And then put POR-15 on all of it (once you get POR-15 out of the can, you have to use it or lose it, and there's only just so little you can pour out):
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Oh, hey, hand shielding the camera from the setting sun!

Slapped some galvanizing weld-thru on the hinge and patch:
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and the bolts:
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I could plate these bolts, but I think I'll paint them for this location. Or not. I reserve the right to change my mind when I start plating stuff in batches.

Frankenrex 07-21-20 11:26 PM

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In between dealing with sick wife and hospital, and, honestly *to deal with sick wife and hospital*, I did some things in the garage.
Over the weekend I found the energy to get out and
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weld in the patch on the RX-7.
Used a couple hard drive magnets to hold it flush and in place:
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And then made a travesty:
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Seriously, I am so glad this is going to be out of site. I'm not sure if it's my technique, settings, or the welder not feeding consistently or something. Penetration seems to be OK, and I didn't burn through until I went to re-weld some spots after grinding, so, functionally, it's fine. Just ugly.

Speaking of grinding:
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The stuff on the upper, and the left side of the photo was difficult to reach, and, as noted, will not be visible, so I just hit it enough to knock it down and stress test it a bit.
The bit that's ground flatter is marginally visible from inside when the door is open, but realistically not much.

Primer coat. Not worried about the possible pinholes in the welds, there - it;s mostly double-walled there, and I'll be hitting it all with seam sealer.
Speaking of which:
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This was messy without disposable gloves...

And, the door hinge reinstalled:
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Next session, I might pull the lower hinge and clean and paint it.
At this point, I can weld both of the braces back in. I may tape off the spot/plug weld areas, and hit the rest of what will be hidden with POR-15 to seal it up, though I can probably just roll with the cold galvanizing. After all, those areas were only primered originally, and weren't rusty.

added oddity: I got seam sealer on the screwdriver I used to open the caulk tube of seam sealer. It dried, so I used my wire wheel to get it off of the screwdriver, and discovered just how pathetic the chrome plating on HDX screwdrivers was:
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Went right through the "chrome" and nickel layers. If there even was a chrome layer.
At least the copper plating seems up to the task.

Frankenrex 07-21-20 11:29 PM

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Decided to attack replacing the braces today, starting with the driver's side.

I hit the spot weld areas with a scotch-brite wheel, on the theory that the weld-through zinc primer might have been causing some of the welding issues, then clamped the brace in place. the drilled spot welds make it easy to line everything up.
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And then laid into welding:
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I finally figured out the welding issue about here:
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Definitely looking better.


It felt like a feed issue, so I turned off the gas, and just started pulling the trigger, looking at the wire coming out, and had the door open to observer the spool. Sure enough, the feed would stall fairly often. The motor was actually stalling. I could grab the wire at the tip and pull it, but the feed couldn't push it. I took the tip off, and it fed just fine, so it's not a liner/feed tube issue. Checking the fit of the tip over the wire, it was tight. Too tight, obviously, even though the tip and the wire are supposedly both 0.025" (0.6mm) spec. I ran a 0.6mm drill through it to make sure, and that helped a little, but not enough for my liking, so I drilled it about 3/4 the way through with the next size up I had, 0.8mm, leaving about 1/4" at 0.6mm. that seems to have done the trick. Feed was consistent after that. Made things much nicer.

Primered:
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(the primer is still drying in the pictures, hence the mottled appearance in places)

I ground the welds on the top back to prevent interference with the fender, but left all the other ones alone.

I need to do the passenger side, and probably go ahead and clean up the other 3 hinges, then I can get to sanding everything in and around the engine bay smooth-ish, so I can lay down the epoxy primer everywhere.

Nice to be putting parts back on the car!

mazdaverx713b 07-25-20 05:43 AM

You're really doing a nice job and going the distance on the car! Nice job thus far! What ever happened to that light blue FB you were robbing parts off of?

Toruki 07-25-20 09:20 AM

I like how you put everything out there. Welding is tough! I've only ever done enough with an arc welder to be just awful at it. So much harder than it looks.
And I hope everything goes well with your wife.

Frankenrex 07-26-20 04:06 AM


Originally Posted by mazdaverx713b (Post 12425626)
You're really doing a nice job and going the distance on the car! Nice job thus far! What ever happened to that light blue FB you were robbing parts off of?

It's in the backyard, still serving as a parts source, and storage for other spares.


Originally Posted by Toruki (Post 12425654)
I like how you put everything out there. Welding is tough! I've only ever done enough with an arc welder to be just awful at it. So much harder than it looks.
And I hope everything goes well with your wife.

Thanks. Welding is just a matter of a little knowledge, and a lot of practice. Of course, it also helps if your equipment operates properly! thin gauge metals make it a bit harder, but again, practice - which I don't have a lot of. Most of my previous experience was with heavier stuff, and that's fairly easy. Honestly, if everything is set correctly, and clean, it *is* fairly easy, with a little technique and the aforementioned practice.
Thank you for the well-wishes. She's home and much better, now that the colitis infection has been dealt with.

Frankenrex 07-28-20 08:38 PM

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Sunday, I made myself get back on the RX-7, and I'm glad of it. Felt better once I got going. Fighting the lazy/apathy.

Started by removing the lower driver's door hinge and the passenger upper.
Of course, there was a bolt I couldn't get to with the door closed on the lower, that I couldn't see until I removed the door-holder spring:
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So i had to put all the bolts back and remove that one with the door open:
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Hinges before:
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Bolts and upper hinge after blasting. Driver's lower is still in the blaster.
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Mounting area is a little crusty on the passenger side.
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...poop. I didn't even look at the driver's side lower. I'll do that before I reinstall.
Got those painted with the zinc paint (no pics - looks just like the after, only a different grey :),) then got started on reinstalling that brace on the passenger side. Procedure was the same as the driver's side, though I had to clearance one of my welds a bit for fitment:
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and clean the seam sealer off of a weld point at the top (which happens to be just around the corner from the weld that was clearanced):
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All welded up. The MIG behaved much better now that it feeds properly.
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Ground the top ones down:
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