^ I understand. I included you in my comments as I want you to continue posting here. Love your work and would be saddened to see you not posting anymore.

 

Guys, I really wish we can all just get along. Everyone posting here is a valued member of the community with something to offer

Benny, as John already mentioned, if you'd like anything done to the posts in this thread please PM the moderation staff

 

So I guess this discussion forum is no longer for open discussion? Just looking a photos? Might as well be flickr or instagram then. Too much hyper-sensitivity these days.

Good luck with the build, Benny.

 

Oh wonderful, more personal attacks. This forum has become a joke.

 

Thanks, still going through with it so we'll see how this goes...

Lol for reals. after doing more research i came across a thread on the EVO forum about a guy building his own wing too.. jesus, that forum had so many more users contributing rather then bashing. All the guy said was "i've never used composites before and im going to make a wing" and posts later people were giving advice and tips and explaining things... Not here, you get ridiculed for every decision and thing you do, when teaser pics are revealed for a PROTOTYPE. really makes me want to post somewhere else.. might not be too bad of an idea.

weither it gets *****'d out for being the dumbest creation ever, or on the news because i flipped over, you'll see it

YUP, **** show, same trolls as always. thanks man still churning hard to get her done for DGRR

Thanks David. I started out knowing absolutely nothing, its build threads like yours, collins, gordons, mannys, blackade, etc that fuel me to keep going, try something different weither it be better or worse. THATS why i post, to help people get ideas flowing.

100% with you on #2 i use to frequent this forum a lot but in the past years the community has been dominated by a bad aurora, i dont even waste time reading posts anymore, just to check out a few worthy builds that inspire. Maybe ill check out speedhunters forum, could be fun

Yeah.... like how he fell off the face of the earth for the past few months!!

yeah maybe thats true, but half don't know how to communicate with respect.

Nope i dont care, just shows how big of a douche bag people can be.

Yeah your discussion tend to be more of smart *** remarks and sarcastic comments like the one above. None of you are looking for a discussion, just more reason to troll and criticize everything i do. None of you "follow" my thread, you guys only simple comment when you find something i do you bash me for... this is why the community sucks compared to years ago. and I know for a fact i am not the only one who feels this why. thats why this forum has a bunch of disappearing members.


Exactly. Its ironic how the whole posse comes to chime in when NONE of you are:
a. interested in making a wing
b. buying my wing
c. concerned because you "drive behind me and fear for your life"
d. actually made a wing before

So really, why do ANY of you care? there is absolutely not evidence my wing with "fail" I HIGHLY doubt any of you actually have real world experience with composites either. Just because you "briefly went over it in one of your classes" or because you "fiberglassed a crack in your bumper" doesnt make you credible. I'm not saying im a profession because im far from it, but i'm willing to bet i know much more about composites then majority of you.



So i'll try this one more time. for anyone interested learning about aerodynamics, heres some useful stuff i came across.

Here's a good link i found... pretty basic but fairly easy to understand. Pretty cool, nothing better then building fenders for aesthetics to find out they actually function
Aerodynamic Downforce - Go Faster By Sticking Tighter - Circle Track Magazine


Ah finally found the evo forum link again. super awesome read if anyone is actually interesting in making there own wing.. and wow. now that is a community, so much useful input from a bunch of members
Building a GT Wing - evolutionm.net

Now as far as testing, for people who fail to realize, computers and programs to run analysis were not always around. plenty of other ways to do test...
A windtunnel and fancy computer programs are NOT the only way to learn about your design.
DIY home "wind tunnel simulator"
"do you even own a fog machine at home?" yes, i do have a fog machine.

Tuft method- tape, yarn and a camera...

As far as strength i have no fancy equipment for this. i doubt my 20ton press putting all that load in one localized area will really tell me anything. for this, I will simply just try breaking it. throw it in the air, whip it at something, drive over it with my truck, who knows, I'll just caveman style this ****. I'll make a video for your enjoyment

Now since everyone had me second guessing my design, I figured I should read up on aerodynamics a bit more. with that said I am confident nothing tragic will happen, worse comes to worse, I will have a ton of drag because i made an insane camber (my opinion compared to the foil designs i have seen)

But just for verification, can I assume this is all relative?
Longer distance vs shorter distance on object = High pressure vs low pressure? aka surface of an airfoil or car, or inversely? the insides (top and bottom) of ducts?

Now back to all things not aerodynamic...
so i began cutting up my rear fender to prep for the over fenders. marked the line and cut, wow cake this is going to be easy. at first i tried just banging (stretching) the existing fender well and that was a terrible idea. As the metal is already thin, then grinding it to have a clean surface, i just kept blowing through it and had a hard time getting a good ground without the ground clamp in the way. so off that went. i cut a rectangle piece out, got some 20 gauge mild steel i have stocked up and cut it with a little over hang so i had extra to trim. (better too much then too little) With my stomp shear it was a piece of cake. tack/spot welded it in place and then it went to pooh from there. i had trouble with finding the right settings, blowing through the body (after grinding it was super thin) BUT i managed to get them sealed. i lapped the sheet metal on the inside fender and corner? "t"? welded the arch. im' going to seam seal them to make sure no moisture gets in then spray some paint to protect it from rust.. only pic i took-- yes she bleeds red...


also got my rivnuts and fancy bolts for the over fender. these bolts are cool, 2 tiny dots that require a special screwdriver to remove them... I thought it was pretty cool since ive never came across them, and well they are different, so cool to me. Cons? well if i lose my special screw driver or dont have it on the spot well im pretty screwed lol. anddd i think they might strip out easily... lets pray that doesnt happen lol


Anddd picked up this baby yesterday...


I have all the major parts that i needed to purchase for my build so i'm breathing a little easier now... the rest is pretty much left up to my labor and fabrication...... timess a ticking!

 

This forum has thousands of members. Just like in real life, not everyone is going to get along. I see no reason for someone to not post a criticism of something if they believe there is an issue with it, but it should be done in a respectable manner. I guess the second part of that statement is up to interpretation. Not everything always translates via text on a post as it is intended to come across. If there was no sharing of ideas or red flags pointed out to one another, our learning process as a community would be much slower. Not taking sides one way or another, but maybe people on both sides should get a bit thicker skin.

That being said, looking forward to seeing how this turns out. And wtf is that in your truck, looks like a coffin haha.

 

Lol its a Thule cargo box.. As i plan to vendor at a bunch of events this year i need to haul ****, tent, tables, chairs merchandise etc... the 7 cant fit all that with a passenger (im not riding solo) so instead of having 2 cars, or tailoring the 7, why not slap a cargo box on top. hate it? love it? who cares, its functional, and well it should get some good exposure/marketing

rough PS my buddie steve did way back which gave me the idea

 

For some reason that immediately reminded me of this:

 

bahahaha youre not too far off........... for what its worth, the box will be seat more towards the rear of the car in hopes to look half as cool as this..



whoaaaaaaaa they look like fenders with really poor body work! getting there..

 

^ That looks pretty cool actually.

 

Sick fenders. That is not easy.

 

lol yeahh, hopefully i can execute it right otherwise it will look like the space ship on the plane

thanks, I thought that was going to be the easiest thing i was making... turns out it was the hardest.... and not planning a head didnt help either lol... are you going to DGRR this year?

 

a little mock up... just need to weld the jack stand to the trunk and some zip ties and ill be good to goooooooooooooo




got about < 3weeks to have this looking like a full car for deals trololol

 

What is the load rating of the jack stand? Have you done any calculations to make sure it can handle the stresses at highway speed? Additionally, what brand zipties do you plan to use and that is their plastic composition?

On a serious note, what method did you use to make the fenders symmetrical? I know when making something custom like that it is harder to make the second match the first.

 

It's gonna sit a little higher right? Cause it'll be sitting on top of the roof rack.

 

Dude man, you have no shame about doing crazy stuff to your car. Fun to watch.

 

Looks like I'm not the only one pulling all-nighters to prep the FD for DGRR

 

Jack stand is rated for 2 ton.. but my welds will probably break before i even have to worry about that... Zipties.. hmm for strength i should us the metal ones but i may just go with the hot pink ones..

If you look back two pages? i posted how i made the fenders.. i dont know if they are 100% symmetrical, but i doubt anyone could tell without using a measuring tools... but I'm still sanding and only have paint on them so its tough to even tell if they are symmetrical at this time..

Originally yes. But looking more at Jon Olsson's R8 in the previous picture he doesnt use a rack. and from the mock ups i posted i think i might be able to slip a bracket/rack between the crack of the trunk and the roof. IF i can get it to work like that, I'm gonna X the roof rack and just make my own!

lmao thanks, its all about the build, i really enjoy just making stuff. anything. even cupcakes

oh, im pretty sure 50% of us dont see sleep in april til AFTER DGRR ahahha thanks Phil

 

Fenders look awesome.

 

^^ Thanks! I cant stand looking at them anymore.. ive put in probably 10 hours in just sanding them the past 2 sessions. my arms are deadddddd.

Originally for the fenders i was going to make a mold and lay up new fenders so they are 100% fiberglass but now im contemplating if thats even worth it anymore.. The material for the molds will be 200+ and more time. might hold off on that for now and just rock these 20lbs fenders for now.......

oh yay more sanding. just did the rough sand on the top of the spoiler and sprayed if black to use it as a "guide coat" for the next layer..
ps APR GTC-200 on top.. for size reference... pss this thing is hugeeeeeee

 

You make me happy Bubbles. The fenders look great.

 

^^ hahah, thanks glad i can make you happy hehehe

Oh for the love of Carbon<3333333

 

uuuggghh must have those door cards in carbon fiber.

 

Here you go Gordon: https://www.rx7club.com/group-buy-pr.../#post11425272

Check out that fitmenttttttttt =)

 

Well today i realized how big of an idiot i am. I didnt fiberglass up the b? pillar enough and the cut line was way too low and looked like ***. so im currently extending that portion.

On top of that i hate where i ended the rear fender, it leaves a "line/crease" right on the side, which is fine if i ran normal side skirts, but since ill be running flat panel skirts, it will just look stupid. so i extended those as well. I'll be trimming the bottom edge like feed's skirts, vertically.


Also began to install the rear over fenders. i'm using rivnuts, and i LOVE them. which i knew about them a while ago, they're so cool. ive been trying to figure out the name of them since ive sold my CF M2 Air box!

just on a dinner break.. will be back to sanding and glassing in a few for update #3 of the day.