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JustJeff 12-27-07 02:00 PM

SleeperRx7 = MIA
 
I bought a S5 TII engine harness from SleeperRx7 and he hasn't delivered. I Paypal'd him money through a credit card on Nov. 14th, but told him to hold off on shipping till I was sure I didn't need anything else from him. On Nov 27 he confirmed that I didn't need anything else and he'd ship the next day. That was the last I heard from him. I sent him PMs on both Dec 13th and the 20th with no response from him. There is at least one other person complaining in his for sale thread that they haven't heard from him or gotten their parts.

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=708317

Here is the thread where he originally posted about his part out
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=704323

He was last on Dec 22, so he's surely gotten my PMs and has chosen not to respond.

I filed a dispute with Paypal and will keep everyone posted on the progress....

FS_WTB 12-27-07 09:35 PM

SleeperRX7 = Bad seller
 
James Arnett aka SleeperRX7
Paypal address: arnetts600@hotmail.com


no respond after received my payment

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=708317



https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ght=SleeperRX7

JustJeff 12-31-07 02:22 PM

Still no word from him, could be he's out of town for the New Year....still he was on the 22nd and I sent him a PM on the 20th, so he could have made some kind of response.

JustJeff 01-01-08 04:04 AM

Just giving a bump to someone who's sharing the same problem I have

Jager 01-01-08 09:15 PM

It seemed pretty BS when I was e-mailed him a few times.

Sorry about all your loses.

JustJeff 01-04-08 03:06 AM

It's all thru Paypal and on a credit card, so hopefully it'll get worked out soon

JustJeff 01-08-08 08:32 PM

Still nothing...I'll have to see if there is fraud protection on the credit card.

JustJeff 01-13-08 11:45 PM

Ooppssss....made a mistake when I posted.....

JustJeff 01-13-08 11:46 PM

I escalated my paypal from dispute to claim. No contact from him.

I was provided his number by another forum member who bought parts from him in person. Called the number it's "unreachable" I googled everything I knew about him and found him on nopistons.com with a posting selling a turbo timer under the name Arnetts7, it's back in 2006 though.

http://www.nopistons.com/forums/inde...2&#entry844152

Anyone have any information about him?

rx7roller02 01-14-08 06:33 AM

your best bet at this time will be thru your credit card, if they have the fraud protection. Paypal will find in your favor if he doesnt answer but my guess is he has no money in that account for them to take. That is common when people scam someone these days.

JustJeff 01-14-08 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by rx7roller02 (Post 7736888)
your best bet at this time will be thru your credit card, if they have the fraud protection. Paypal will find in your favor if he doesnt answer but my guess is he has no money in that account for them to take. That is common when people scam someone these days.

I looked into fruad protection thru the card but it's only valid with in state purchases and then will only protect for remaining balances, not what has already been paid for. I'm hoping to find a physical addy for this guy so I can get the cops involved. At least one person bought a part from him in person...or says they did.

rx7roller02 01-14-08 07:22 PM

that would be your best bet, really, paypal also has the habit of not helping you very much if you didnt buy the item through ebay.

I also have more info than what you've found. Seems he was selling more things on nopistons.com, more recently than what you've found:

in 2005, he tried to sell a T78 turbo setup, no one else posted in the thread.

Then there is the one you found, from 2006, with the boost controller.

And one in August, 2007, with some replies:

http://www.nopistons.com/forums/inde...ts@hotmail.com

9 replies, but no one saying anything about actually buying any parts....I posted over there to ask if any of those members bought anything and what the end result was. I also linked this thread over there so hopefully someone has some info for you.

I can tell you this much--grand larceny is what you're aiming for. Anything less and the police probably wont be too interested in spending time on it. But there is a pretty easy way to make this happen--so far we know of two people who got ripped off by this guy, and you spent $125 plus shipping, is this correct? The other guy, FS_WTB, bought a clutch, and the price of that was $300 plus shipping to Canada. So, he spent some good money for shipping from CA to Toronto. Between the two of you, he took more than $400. It can easily be combined into one complaint because he sold parts to the two of you from the same for sale ad. I have done this before in Florida, and that scammer was subsequently charged with grand larceny(over $7,000) and 66 counts of attempting to defraud.

I would recommend you contact FS_WTB on this one. If you are interested, I will get you guys a # to call where you can file a complaint. That way, I can have you speak with the same cop and this can be put in as a grand larceny complaint. Just let me know...

Jon

JustJeff 01-15-08 12:37 AM


Originally Posted by rx7roller02 (Post 7739440)
that would be your best bet, really, paypal also has the habit of not helping you very much if you didnt buy the item through ebay.

I also have more info than what you've found. Seems he was selling more things on nopistons.com, more recently than what you've found:

in 2005, he tried to sell a T78 turbo setup, no one else posted in the thread.

Then there is the one you found, from 2006, with the boost controller.

And one in August, 2007, with some replies:

http://www.nopistons.com/forums/inde...ts@hotmail.com

9 replies, but no one saying anything about actually buying any parts....I posted over there to ask if any of those members bought anything and what the end result was. I also linked this thread over there so hopefully someone has some info for you.

I can tell you this much--grand larceny is what you're aiming for. Anything less and the police probably wont be too interested in spending time on it. But there is a pretty easy way to make this happen--so far we know of two people who got ripped off by this guy, and you spent $125 plus shipping, is this correct? The other guy, FS_WTB, bought a clutch, and the price of that was $300 plus shipping to Canada. So, he spent some good money for shipping from CA to Toronto. Between the two of you, he took more than $400. It can easily be combined into one complaint because he sold parts to the two of you from the same for sale ad. I have done this before in Florida, and that scammer was subsequently charged with grand larceny(over $7,000) and 66 counts of attempting to defraud.

I would recommend you contact FS_WTB on this one. If you are interested, I will get you guys a # to call where you can file a complaint. That way, I can have you speak with the same cop and this can be put in as a grand larceny complaint. Just let me know...

Jon

Thanks for your help Jon. FS_WTB and I have swapped a few PMs and I'm waiting to hear back from him. I was thinking the same thing about coordinating our complaints to the police in Sleeperrx7's area. I would be interested in the number you have, that would be helpful. I've dug up some personal info on Sleeperrx7 and I'll PM you about that.

I've been keeping tabs in FS_WTB's bad guy thread. I haven't spoken with him about how much he lost, but the guy got me for $140 total.

Thanks again for your help and you've got a PM

JustJeff 01-15-08 01:30 AM

Simply bumping this to the top so that both threads about Sleeperrx7 stay more closely related

rx7roller02 01-15-08 05:35 AM

Can you please post some more details? Like how much was the total that you sent to him? Thanks

FS_WTB 01-15-08 07:45 AM

$310 Usd

rx7roller02 01-15-08 10:22 AM

between the 2 of you guys, you have enough for a grand larceny complaint. PM me if interested in proceeding--at this point it is probably about the only real option that could get you results, unfortunately. Let me know...

Jon

JustJeff 01-15-08 12:47 PM

Would it be possible for RX7doctor to combine my thread and FS_WTBs. It would be alot easier to coordinate. I'll post the same request in the other thread and send RX7doctor a PM.

JustJeff 01-15-08 12:49 PM

I posted this same request in my thread about Sleeperrx7, but can RX7doctor merge the 2 seperate threads into one. It would make coordinating all this easier...and more coherent for the community to keep up on the progress. I tossed RX7doc a PM about it.

JustJeff 01-15-08 11:01 PM

thanks Doc

JustJeff 01-18-08 12:54 AM

Any news on that number, I'd like to move forward with it ASAP

totpkg 01-19-08 09:57 AM

SleeperRX7 ripoff
 
Add me to the list of peeps he has ripped off. Back in late Nov., I bought a set of JDM FTP's ... paypal confirmed payment on Dec 13th of $90. He said in his last response of the 13th that he would ship the next day. I have still yet to receive. I have sent several PM's and have even sent an e-mail to his hotmail account. I have yet to file a paypal claim ... but look to do so in the next few days. I don't feel like I will get anywhere, but at least I will try.

Ken

rx7roller02 01-19-08 11:50 AM

ok, here is what we need to do. Each of you that lost money to this guy, you need to get a file together. You need to put in that file all paperwork you have---payment receipts and so on. You also will want to print out any emails you have sent and received--but you need to print them with the full header displayed. If you are not sure how to do this, just let me know and I will tell you how, it is really simple. When you have all of this, let me know. We will need this info when complaints are filed so that we can show enough cause for the police to check it out.

When you guys have this stuff together, let me know. We will present the complaints to the same person so that they dont get separated and lost in the shuffle. That way, they will be far more inclined to act because they will see that this guy is a repeat thief.

JustJeff 01-19-08 11:52 AM

Thanks for adding yourself to the list. I'm waiting to hear back from RX7Roller02 on the number to call.

I'll toss you a PM

Edit: Didn't see Roller's response........

Sounds like all the hard copies should be held by one person. I don't mind being that person and will PM both totpkg, and FS_WTB with my mailing addy.

rx7roller02 01-19-08 01:28 PM

if you guys like you can fax them to me or mail them to Jeff. But please--let's get on this. It is obvious by now that he will just keep on scamming people, and we can knock that shit off quick, fast, and in a hurry. Please dont drop the ball on this guy. Thanks

Anyone wanting to fax them to me can PM me for the #. We just need to get these things together. You should include your contact info in the file you put together, for the police to keep up with you guys.

JustJeff 01-25-08 03:17 PM

Update:

Paypal found in my favor of course....no money in his account of course.

Jon

I couldn't fax you last night, no cartridge in the fax machine.

rx7roller02 01-25-08 03:34 PM

no prob Jeff, try again when it's all set.

totpkg 01-26-08 06:35 PM

Jon,
Faxed all my BS ... sorry for so much, lookin back might have been better to use postal ... let me know if any additional needed.
Thx,
Ken

rx7roller02 01-26-08 11:54 PM

Ken--check your email--I only got the first 5 pages due to power outtage

we can try again tomorrow if youre able to

SleeperRX7 01-29-08 11:00 AM

Okay first off I'm very sorry guys for putting you through the ring around. I know I haven't been on the forum for a good month and a half and it was partially because of the problems I have started with the selling of parts.

I am not trying to scam you guys all though it seems like it, due to the fact that you haven't recieved the parts and I haven't refunded ur money back to you guys.

Let me tell you that I am not trying to scam you and am working on making this straight with everyone that has bought something and hasn't recieved it yet. I am in a big bind right now with money due to trying to go back to school and some other unfortunate events. I have stopped school due to the financial burden on me from it and am working on replenishing my accounts.

I will be refunding all the money back to the members that have bought something and did not recieve it.

Again I am just trying to make this right, and I know I am in the wrong for going about the way that I did. I hope you guys see this and read this and, to the guys I owe stuff to if you have any questions please feel free to pm me or e-mail me and I will let you know what happened and how i plan to get your money back to you.

Sorry again for all the problems and confusion.

rx7roller02 01-29-08 03:03 PM

here's the deal--

the only reason why I am typing this post is because we have been told this same thing time and again from people so many times I cannot count. Simply put, I am here to make sure that you follow through. If you do, then I will be the first in line to thank you for standing up and taking care of business, and hopefully you can use it as a learning experience.

If you don't, I promise you that three complaints will be filed with your local police department, and the criminal charges will include grand larceny, which is a major felony. I dont think you want that on your record....I urge you to take that promise seriously, I dont bluff.

So, to date, we have the following:

FS_WTB, owed $310
Justjeff, owed $140
totpkg, owed $90

You need to provide a reasonable solution for paying these people back, and then it needs to happen. At this point, I would usually recommend that the two parties take the conversation private, but since it will all end up here anyways, its probably better to just put it here.

If anyone else sent this seller money and did not get their parts, post about it and you will be added to the mix.

Communication is your best friend right now--if you had communicated with people already, this thread might not even be here!

X-JaVeN-X 01-29-08 10:17 PM

i absolutely HATE when people post "money problems" as their excuse for not coming through with parts. you were SENT MONEY TO COVER THE PARTS AND SHIPPING! You had the money in your hand and chose to NOT ship them....That is theft...plain and simple. File the charges guys...end of story. Maybe he'll learn his lesson the hard way.

JustJeff 01-30-08 03:43 AM

I don't really want the answer, but my first question is...why is it 2 months later that you are communicating?

Once I have a money in my hand, as well as FS_WTB and totpkg has their's I'll be more concerned and have more sympathy for your financial situation. Until that time comes I hate to say it but it sounds more like excuses. I don't mean that in a hardass kind of way. I mean it simply in an actions speak louder than words. Getting on the forums and making contact with us is someplace to start....and can be the difference between police getting involved and it being settled here.

The next step is sending each of us you owe money an email/PM, as well as posting in this thread to keep the community updated...though I know I'll be updating on my own. If you feel you need to explain why you've got money problems that is fine and I'll read it. But I personally don't need to know. If I don't have enough to pay my electric, the electric company isn't too terribly concerned with why...they are concerned with when. I would much more appreciate information involving when I'll be getting refunded.

rx7roller02 01-30-08 08:26 AM

Jeff, if we dont see a good effort into getting this planned by the end of the week, go ahead and fax your papers to me and we will continue with the criminal complaint. I already have Ken's info. I am not prepared to dick around and watch this drag out into more months of hoping.

SleeperRX7 01-30-08 12:22 PM

Ok guys that is fair enough. I know I should have come foward early to let you guys know and that is my fault. I know their are scammers on here that feed the same old song and dance and I am not like that. I will do my best to get you the money back asap.

SleeperRX7 01-30-08 12:40 PM

Pm sent to to totpkg, and e-mails sent to justjeff and FS_WTB. Hope this will work for you guys.

totpkg 01-30-08 12:59 PM

This is the msg I got ....



Plan on refunding money

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

First off let me say sorry for not sending those out to you. I truely thought I did, but found them sitting in my garage the other day. Anyways, I know I owe you only $90 and should get it back to you asap, but I have drawn up a plan of getting all you guys the moey back at the same time. I plan on giving you $45 back on my next paycheck which is next friday, and from there I will get the remainder of the balance on the paycheck after that. I hope this will work for you. Again I am sorry that things came to this and that I wasn't more up front and let you guys know the situation.

Thanks and hopefully this will work out like this.
James

Now, thanks for responding ... I just wonder wouldn't it be easier just to box 'um up and ship them (prob cost you ~ $10) ... as opposed to a refund.
Don't get me wrong, I want something ... rather than qhat I am holding now.
I bought these because I wanted them, and you stated they were is great condition. This almost seems as tho you had planned on scamming us from the start ...
Time will tell ... so the deal is on you ....

Ken

JustJeff 01-30-08 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by rx7roller02 (Post 7803988)
Jeff, if we dont see a good effort into getting this planned by the end of the week, go ahead and fax your papers to me and we will continue with the criminal complaint. I already have Ken's info. I am not prepared to dick around and watch this drag out into more months of hoping.

I agree. I've gotten an email from him with the same basic info that totpkg got. I believe he gets paid next Fri, rather than this coming. When he gets paid he's going to try and send each of us half of what we paid. totpkg mentioned that it'd be cheaper to send the part. I personally don't need my engine harness anymore. If totpkg and FS_WTB still want their parts and Sleeper still has their parts I see no reason why they can't work that out...if that's what they want.

SleeperRX7 01-31-08 11:09 AM

I just pm'ed totpkg and do still have the parts, I actually have all teh parts somewhere in my garage. I am willing to send the parts to totpkg. Just jeff is going to be getting the money back and I haven't heard a response yet from FS_WTB.

I do still have the clutch parts he wanted and can send those out to him if need be.

JustJeff 01-31-08 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by SleeperRX7 (Post 7809578)
I just pm'ed totpkg and do still have the parts, I actually have all teh parts somewhere in my garage. I am willing to send the parts to totpkg. Just jeff is going to be getting the money back and I haven't heard a response yet from FS_WTB.

I do still have the clutch parts he wanted and can send those out to him if need be.

I did get an email telling me I'd get an email the day he got paid.

Heisenberg 01-31-08 03:06 PM

So where are all the parts he had listed for sale?

fikren 01-31-08 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by BackyardSog (Post 7810661)
So where are all the parts he had listed for sale?

in his garage

SleeperRX7 02-01-08 11:38 PM

correct, I still have all the parts in my garage. And totpkg I shipped the ftp's out this morning and will pm you the tracking #.

JustJeff 02-01-08 11:53 PM

Hey Sleeper, if you've still got the engine harness I'll still take it. Just to confirm, it's a S5 TII with injector harnesses cut?

I'll toss you an email also.

rx7roller02 02-02-08 09:01 AM

totpkg--please let us know if you got a tracking number for this

totpkg 02-02-08 07:23 PM

Yes, he did send me a USPS tracking number, but would rather confirm when I get the parts in my hands.

KK

SleeperRX7 02-03-08 12:38 AM

I do still have the harness justjeff and can send it out monday for you. Totpkg let me know when you have recieved the ftps.

JustJeff 02-03-08 12:50 AM

Got Sleeper's email saying the same thing. I'll post again once there is a tracking #

totpkg 02-04-08 07:38 PM

Ok, I got my parts today and they are in good condition, ... I am now square with SleeperRX7!!


Ken

JustJeff 02-05-08 12:30 AM

Yep, got my track # today and USPS says it left the facility today


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