come on gang... let's put this to rest and move forward on our various paths. we all have something in common here which is an appreciation for the benefits of AI. let's all have a productive 07.
time to shake hands and move on to the fun things. hc |
david, you have yet to prove the controller works.
scott and i have both given you evidence that our kits are not working as you intended. first you diss our instilations in our cars, then you start on a character assasination. i have had enough. one kit not working is fine, two is duboius, if there was a third? every one please check your kits (all brands) to make sure they do what it says on the tin. im gonna try something different with alcohol injection in my fd. will post the results in a few months. good or bad. i have had enough of this. Howard is now a good time to all cease fire? its all been said. :wallbash: Ollie |
David.
I dont know much of your personal habits but i think you should stay away from the class A drugs. You seem very excitable and this may be harmful to you health. Stay healthy.... stay upright....until next time ciao Scott |
Originally Posted by borgue
david, you have yet to prove the controller works.
scott and i have both given you evidence that our kits are not working as you intended. AT 100% dutycycle the controller will puse 400 times a second. At 50% dutycycle the controller will pulse 200 times a second. Its not hard to test if the controller works. Hook it up to a lamp if you want to see. Controller is EASY to test. You used a 100 psi pump and a pump that was not even putting out 60-70 PSI and you think that qualifies to say that our kits dont work. I dont know how many times I have to tell you your tests were not valid. Period. first you diss our instilations in our cars, then you start on a character assasination. i have had enough. one kit not working is fine, two is duboius, if there was a third? every one please check your kits (all brands) to make sure they do what it says on the tin. im gonna try something different with alcohol injection in my fd. will post the results in a few months. good or bad. i have had enough of this. Howard is now a good time to all cease fire? its all been said. :wallbash: Ollie Do we need to keep going round and round? You made it clear that you and your friend dont like our kits. GREAT. have a nice day. I dont know what else to day. |
Originally Posted by sdminus
this is the results from our base test device:
1 gph setting 10 10 psi 50cc 20 psi 50cc 30 psi 50cc 3 gph setting 5 10 psi 140 cc 20 psi 140 cc 30 psi 140 cc 3 gph setting 10 10 psi 140 cc 20 psi 140 cc 30 psi 140 cc 5 gph setting 5 10 psi 250 cc 20 psi 250 cc 30 psi 250 cc 5 gp setting 10 10 psi 250cc 20 psi 250cc 30 psi 250cc open flow with 150 psi pump 1000cc all tests were performed over 1 minute why not look at our handy dandy chart. this chart is shipped to those that purchase our controller. They obviously can hook this up to different pumps, so we did tests upto the max psi. On our controller kits the max is 150, so you will need to only look at this chart upto 150 psi and ignore the rest (Unless you bypass the pressure switch). This chart was tested on our controller using the 2 nozzles that come with our vari-cool kits. We took the average of 5 tests and did the following: 1) checkvalve in place after the pump 2) after 150 psi was reached we bypassed the pump. In order for your system to get more range after 150 to 155 psi the switch would need to be bypassed. You should be able to detect clog nozzles for safety if you wish to do that. If you dont want to by pass the switch, your kit should have similar results upto the 150-155 psi range. We dont recommend to bypass it, if you do its up to you, do so at your own risk. 3) We used 100% water. using anymix of methanol/water will yield a different result. 4) We used our M5 and our M10 (12 GPH) nozzle. 5) this is used to be a guide, individual results will vary based on many things, but should give you an idea. http://www.coolingmist.com/pictures/flowchart.gif Next, please look at our video we did. this may take 30 minutes to become active. You can duplicate this test. M5 nozzle in both kits. Vari-Cool Kit on left at 100% dutycycle. Vari-Cool on right at 35% dutycycle. This proves that Scotts test were either forged or he had a bad pump or was just incompetent. I dont know how to make it any more clear. http://www.coolingmist.com/info.aspx?key=dutycycle |
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Just For The Record
Originally Posted by coolingmist
(Post 3990199)
Why dont you tell everyone what the MIN and MAX settings should be. That makes a major difference as to what the controller puts out. Infact, why not look at our handy dandy chart.
This chart was tested on our controller using the 2 nozzles that come with our vari-cool kits. We took the average of 5 tests and did the following: 1) checkvalve in place after the pump 2) after 150 psi was reached we bypassed the pump. In order for your system to get more range after 150 to 155 psi the switch would need to be bypassed. You should be able to detect clog nozzles for safety if you wish to do that. If you dont want to by pass the switch, your kit should have similar results upto the 150-155 psi range. 3) We used 100% water. using anymix of methanol/water will yield a different result. 4) We used our M5 and our M10 (12 GPH) nozzle. 5) this is used to be a guide, individual results will vary based on many things, but should give you an idea. 6) test ran for exactly 1 minute http://www.aquamist.co.uk/forum/flowchart.gif Next, please look at our video we did. this may take 30 minutes to become active. You can duplicate this test. M5 nozzle in both kits. Vari-Cool Kit on left at 100% dutycycle. Vari-Cool on right at 35% dutycycle. I dont know how to make it any more clear. . FOR THE RECORD FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. Published by Coolingmist on the 18th February 2007 . . |
So Richard, are you ever going end your witch hunt or is this just fun for you?
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To the two gentlemen who continue to try and make Coolingmist look bad. You didn't like your setups and Coolingmist offered to take the setups back and test/fix them for you they were all of a sudden sold. So since you didn't give him a chance to fix your problem for you, I don't expect to see you on here flaming him anymore.
If that wasn't clear enough then I believe this will be. KNOCK IT OFF OR DON'T POST IN THE AI SECTION!! I have already talked with Coolingmist offline as well as most of the rest of you. I have both sides of the story and this is my stance on it. If you feel like testing me then please do, but be aware that you won't be a member of this forum anymore if you do. |
BoostedRex.
to put you in the picture. http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forum...ad.php?t=34709 And i still have my kit. I have had no offer to sort the problems. how ever i will not accept anything other than a full refund. Scott |
So what did that for sale thread show me? That you bought the kit off of someone else or that you just sold it?
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That for sale thread was ollies kit. all the dates tally up
Scott |
here is my side of events.
remove kit from my turbo 1st gen, research second hand value on internet. find this thread. use some initiative and test my kit. share results of tests with others, had some constructive criticism from other users, and abuse from cooling mist. advertise the kit re test the kit double check results. further abuse from cooling mist. and him insisting the kit is ok kit is sold and dispatched. (nothing mysterious) David the tells me that the pump is under pressure and it cant be a 150psi pump. even though i purchased a 150psi kit. i post making my final comments, and saying i cant be arsed to argue with him any more. David didn’t offer to fix the kit until i had posted and said it was sold. why am i getting a warning about misusing the forum? and why are you accusing me of trying to dirty his reputation? if i cant speak my mind, i wont. Ollie |
Ollie, it has nothing to do with you speaking your mind. However when this is the 2nd or 3rd thread in as many weeks where it's the same 2 or 3 guys having at it with CM then I start to take notice. You have posted your thoughts and feelings. So now let it drop. CM has been asked to do the same. You'll never be penalized for speaking your mind as long as you don't personally attack another person. So as of right now everyone is good. Just let it all die out from here and there is no more problem.
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Ollie,
I told you that your pump could NOT have been putting out 150 psi. You proved that with your test. I proved that with mine. I spent 2 days preparing the tests before I replied. Its not like I said "I bet he sells the kit in 2 days so I can just wait". Had I replied to this thread without having proof I would have been torn apart. Again, assuming you ran the tests like you said you did the only thing you proved is that YOUR kit was not right. That could have been caused by a million things. I will stipulate that 100% fact you SHOULD HAVE RECIEVED a 150 psi pump. I agree with that, I dont dispute that. We cannot test the pressure of any of the pumps we get. The pump manufacturer tests all the pumps. We have seen from time to time defects and we have seen the pump set at a lower pressure than what it should have been. Its also POSSIBLE that you were sent a lower pressure pump by accident. I have NO recorded cases of that happening, but its possible and I cant say what the problem is until I get the kit back. You obviously KNOW who bought it. Speaking logical I would believe that if he knew something was wrong with it HE would want it fixed. You can STILL contact him and have him send it to me. I will see what is wrong with it. It cant be any clear than that. The reason we have a warranty on our kits is if someone has a problem, we take care of it. I cant read minds. I hope I am clear to you, you put me between a rock and a hard place. The only purpose of my tests were to prove that YOUR results were NOT typical of our kits. You proved you had a problem with your kit. The offer still stands. Contact him and have him email me. He can send the kit to me, I will test it out and send it back. You need to do this ASAP as I cant hold this offer forever. David The ONLY thing I am saying is that the TESTS you did do NOT reflect the kits we sell. I proved that with my video test. |
ok david i will pass the message on.
ollie |
david could you let me have your email address please.
pm me if you dont want it on the forum Ollie |
Thank you. Email is info@coolingmist.com
Have him email me, we will take care of it and find out what was wrong. |
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