Aem New Ems!!!
 

The AEM EMS is being released 01/20/02 for the 3rd gen rx7! It's plug & play, 16/32 bit hybrid processor.

For more info go read AEM INFO .

happy rotoring.
P.S. Kurt (forgot his lastname) reknown tuner was just down at Primespeed and had a 3 hour conversation with Barry about this unit. It's gonna be HOT! I also know the prices too! :D IMHO I think it's going to be better then the Haltech, PFC, Motec.

Tony S.

Everybody is wating for it. My friend wants one ASAP, but so far he's out of luck.:(

dammmmit nothing for TII's

It will work an a TII.

the race version will
but one that uses the oem harness?

I've been reading up about it for the last little while. Do anyone know if the released version will have o2 autotune features incorporated into it.

I think Tec III came out a little while ago, so much hype and talk but I've never heard anything since....its been damn queit on their end.

You would be better off using the harness they give you with the Wolf 3D. Being able to use the stock harness isn't a big deal, as the Wolf 3D harness comes fully assembled.

The TEC II has that feature too with the Wintec software. I wouldn't recommend using it because you're relying heavily on your O2 sensor for the car to run well.

The TEC II will also make a map for your your setup, but not for rotaries.:(

Will this computer run a greddy T88 5 speed and do you have any pics of what it might look like

one more thing how much boost can you program up to because i heard the power fc can only go up 17 or 17.5 psi

Check out http://www.wolfems.com.au/wolf_home_page.html . It will be able to do a good job with that setup. I have a Wolf 3D with a T-78 and it works well. The Wolf 3D V4 will be much better.

My Wolf 3D's MAP sensor reads up to about 21 or 23 PSI, but I've been told I can run 25 PSI with that sensor. They will do an upgrade to allow you to run 30 PSI. I'm not sure about V4, but it will do at least as much as the old one can. 23 PSI on a T-88 is going to make ALOT of power. You'll probably need to run race gas at that kind of boost.

I was just reading the thread for the Supra forum... sounds really nice. The supra version comes with a 3bar map sensor. You can control your twin turbo transition points if you are still running the twins, OMP operation, pretty much everything you can do with the Apexi software, but everyone will get the software... not just one company on the whole USA... Wouldn't that just be sweet justice for them to put the burn on Apexi? Why they wouldn't release the software for the PFC I will never understand... too greedy and now it is going to bite them in the ass. Whoever made the decision not to release the software for the PFC really should be shitcanned. I only hope he made a few bucks while he had no competition...

Tell me more about this new computer anyone...

Also tell me about this auto tune. Do you just put in a air/fuel ratio, you would like to see, and it sets it up for you or what?

Very interesting. CJ

Here's the link to the AEM website.
http://www.aempower.com/ems.htm

Though it would work with a regular POS o2 sensor, it was designed to be used with a wideband. there is no better way to tune your car than with a wideband o2 sensor. Now, whether I would trust the map that the ecu made for me... now thats a different question. I would think that a map that the ecu made would be an EXCELLENT starting point for custom tuning because I've heard that it is not perfect.

Electromotive gives you a 4 wire sensor. I don't know of anybody who uses that "self-tuning" feature.

The thing that I like about the AEM the most is not the self tuning or any of that stuff, its that they are picking up where Apexi left off by letting anyone have the software. I like my PFC, but I don't like only being able to go to one place to have it tuned, regaurdles of weather XS is honest or good or not, it is just plain unAmerican to not have more than one place to go. No competition breeds something terrible. Even if that person or people are very decent and honest folk, I don't like having only one option. Sure ther are other places that will tune your PFC through the commander but they can't do the cool stuff like lower the fan temp or alter the base map etc.

If its can do that type of stuff, i'm sold on it. CJ

The Wintec self tuning feature on the Electromtive units is just to get a base map so you can run the car. It was never intented to be used to fine tune the car. Dyno tuning and tunign with a wide band is still recommended.

I thought they were talking about the mode in which the TEC II will adjust fuel and ignition according to the O2 sensor readings: EGO feedback correction.

Some buddies of mine are going to be trying the ECU out shortly on their FD. The features I like the most about the ECU would be the 4-bar map sensor capability and the on-board wideband monitoring.

crispeed
87TII
9.20@150mph

I found out that the TEC II can be used with a 4 bar sensor. I never knew that until I saw a car on their webpage running 45 PSI. Then I checked my catalog and saw that a 4 bar sensor was a special order item.

Haltech also offers a 5-bar map sensor but not a 4-bar.
HMMMM 5-bar=60psi!:)
The AEM is also supposed to run up to 10 injectors in sequential mode!

crispeed
87TII
9.20@150mph

60 PSI? What are you planning?:rolleyes:

Hey, thats what I am getting (the 5 bar F-9) Chris, Why dont you hook me up on a price there jabroni ;)

Greg it's going to cost an extra $400+ for the 5-bar map sensor and software from Haltech!

crispeed
87TII
9.20@150mph

Has the E8 been released yet? Let us know. Carl...

I went to the site. What does it cost for an FD and when can I get one????

Ken

Does anyone know how much this will cost? Seeing as you don't have to buy a proprietary commander like the PFC, I would think it would be cheaper...

Im trying to see how many people are going to want the new AEM unit when it comes out. Im going to be purchasing a bunch of them up front and should be able to offer the best price on either a GB or just as a single unit. Please send me an e-mail jbaughman@columbus.rr.com .

I will have a price on Wednesday.

Anyone that has been posting GB's for this unit are unauthorized GB's and the posts will be deleted. If you want to host a GB its obvious what the procedure, as its plastered all over the GB section.

Jason

LUV94RX7... in the GB is it only for the FD plug and play, or can you add me as a universal

Stop talkin to yourself or Jason is going to delete your posts! :D

I still am wondering about this new ems, all the answers have been centered around injection control, none for timing control, I did not see to much in the demo software either, does the cas have to be modified, or is a flying wieght crank ring added, how much split is available between the trailing and leading, and is it controllable..are the stock coil packs used, or can you change to 4 seperate coils? Max

Just to let you guys know the Supra unit was delayed so I bet the rx-7 unit will not come out this month either.

The timing is fully programmable as well, you can have as much split as you like, and you can convert to 4 coils if you wish. No modifications necessary.

Jason.

I just downloaded the demo and for the few min that I played with it.
it seams kick ass.

I wounder how this would do with the 20B................

what the sticker price on one of these to run a 20B

The same as the 13b box.

Jason.

When - When - will it be delivered to us??????

Ken

HEY crispeed?

you don't know anyone running a 6 bar do you? ;)

tee hee.

Oh yes I do!:)
You should be running one too!:)
You know Mitsubishi's don't run unless they got 200 shot or 50 psi!:)

crispeed
87TII
9.20@150mph

can the new AEM run the leading and trailing for 20B?
or would I need a one more box like if I use the Haltech
I need a
E6K + IG5 to run a 20B

Yes we have no problem with a 20b no extras

Jason.

GREAT!!!!!!
when
where
and how much

I think Im going to get one for 20B

They should be out very soon(hopefully next week). My friend's shop just ordered a shitload of them. He will be looking to get rid of them for cheap. I will let you guys know as soon as he gets them.

Jason,
I was wondering if you have more details on the 20B control.
If it can fire the 20B with a mappable split, it would mean at least 6 ignition outputs for both direct-fire (ignitor/coil per plug) or via OEM mazda cosmo ignitors (double-toggle method). Which method will it use?

What did you mean by no extras? You will still need some kind of ignitors?

I've read your post on the impressive list of I/O configs. I counted at least 6 ignition event-based (injector controls). Are these outputs for the additional injectors and ignitions for the 20B?

Thanks,
PK

As stated earlier the 20b uses 1 pair of wasted spark coils on the leading, and the rest are direct fire (5 ignition outputs needed) we have these built in. Yes you would need an ignitor or CDI, but no external extra channels to control them.

Jason.

Okay, I was sold on this ECU over a month ago.

KDR promises to have my new motor installed the 2nd week in February, 2002.

Will AEM EMS be ready for my car by then?????????????????? Or will this be another never ending wait for me????????

Ken, 57 years young
'94 white, base, pep, red leather,
mods: Street port & polished stage II, Hurley racing seals, ???AEM ECU??? , XS T04e single turbo kit, SMIC (400+cu.in.), Aquamist 2s water injection kit, Pettit ss resonated MP, Pettit ss cat-back, RP Racing fuel pump, 1600cc injectors, Profec B(12&24psi), 3-bar MAP Sensor, Centerforce clutch, under pulley kit(no air pump), Pettit short shifter kit, boost gauge, LaBreck's bushings, Evans Coolant,

Jason,

I'm not very clear what you have stated.

It is physically impossible to waste spark a 20B.

The 20B requires a total of 6 direct fire ignition outputs. I'm assuming the system will use a direct fire method and not the OEM cosmo ignitors.
I understand the ECU has an abundance of driver outputs. But for any ECU system to perform a mappable split algorithm(sp?) on a 20B, it will require very special accomondations. Also, the ignition driver outputs on this FD ECU system will need to be reconfigured to a 6 ignition events per revolution instead of the 4 (for waste-spark) of the 2-rotor.

The supra system will definitely work great for the 20B without any split.

Also, any cost effective reccomendations on ignitor/CDI setups for 20B as this is the same problem for non-OEM ECU setup for the 20B. Running 2 MSD DIS4 is not very cost effective. Are the ignition driver outputs menu configurable, such as rising instead of falling?

By no means am I trying to grill you on this, and I apologize if it seems as such. But I just want more details on the system for use on the 20B.

Please email me privately if necessary,

PK

ok how many direct fire outputs does this have???? that will answer all.