Originally Posted by Net Seven
(Post 12358154)
At least you're located in kangaroo land, so shipping was reasonable. I made a stink about the BS after my tuner even said it was a known issue and Tsikoy de Leon from Adaptronic started asking me for a bunch of paperwork and telling me it's not covered under warranty. Then he told me, just ship it over here, they might cover it if it truly has a "manufacturing defect". That was the straw that broke the camels back. I already have a buyer for the ECU and the wideband as soon it arrives from repairs. Buying a Haltech from Chris Ludwig.
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Originally Posted by mrselfdestruct1994
(Post 12358156)
Yeah that sounds pretty average. Have you already bought a Haltech? I'd consider a Link if not, that was my second choice. The FD plugin box is a very well featured unit, the fuel model isn't as comprehensive as the Adaptronic but overall it appears to be a very polished product.
I've tuned my other FD on the PowerFC and it runs awesome. Both Chris and Skeese think the Haltech should be just as easy and both are willing to help out when needed. It just makes sense. Honestly, my other choice would be FuelTech. |
Originally Posted by mrselfdestruct1994
(Post 12358151)
If you look through the firmware updates for any ECU there are typically bugs being fixed all the time, so this isn't isolated to Adaptronic.
Originally Posted by Net Seven
(Post 12358062)
I only waited 3 months for the wide band module to ship. Turns out the reason was because the Haltech manager didnt think anyone would buy them.
Originally Posted by Net Seven
(Post 12358154)
Buying a Haltech from Chris Ludwig.
Originally Posted by mrselfdestruct1994
(Post 12358156)
Yeah that sounds pretty average. Have you already bought a Haltech? I'd consider a Link if not, that was my second choice. The FD plugin box is a very well featured unit, the fuel model isn't as comprehensive as the Adaptronic but overall it appears to be a very polished product.
Originally Posted by Net Seven
(Post 12358157)
I have not yet, but Haltech seems like a pretty solid ECU. No one really has complaints about it. Also, my harness is from LMS and Chris Ludwig is going to inspect it and reconfigure it to work on the Haltech.
I've tuned my other FD on the PowerFC and it runs awesome. Both Chris and Skeese think the Haltech should be just as easy and both are willing to help out when needed. It just makes sense. Honestly, my other choice would be FuelTech. To me that is the best move. Having Ludwing setup the harness is always a win because it will be 100% right, 100% of the time and you won't have to mess with it. You'll have no problem tuning the car on the elite if you even functionally understand the PFC. Lastly, I agree about the fueltech. Its one of the few I haven't personally tuned but the feedback I've seen from those who have has been outstanding and given most people who run it push BIG power, it would have been really really really clear if there were any issues or shortcomings with it. Cheers :beer: Skeese |
Originally Posted by Skeese
(Post 12358180)
I disagree with you on this point. If you look at the haltech ESP updates, they aren't fixing bugs but rather adding additional support and features.
I have nothing against them, just pointing out that no platform is immune to these issues. Some will be worse than others and that is generally due to how long that product has been in production.
Originally Posted by Net Seven
(Post 12358157)
I have not yet, but Haltech seems like a pretty solid ECU. No one really has complaints about it. Also, my harness is from LMS and Chris Ludwig is going to inspect it and reconfigure it to work on the Haltech.
I've tuned my other FD on the PowerFC and it runs awesome. Both Chris and Skeese think the Haltech should be just as easy and both are willing to help out when needed. It just makes sense. Honestly, my other choice would be FuelTech. |
Originally Posted by mrselfdestruct1994
(Post 12358327)
From the latest firmware release notes:
I have nothing against them, just pointing out that no platform is immune to these issues. Some will be worse than others and that is generally due to how long that product has been in production. Best of luck with it, I'm sure it will work well :) |
Originally Posted by Skeese
(Post 12358378)
Please enlighten me, which update was that? I pulled the latest change log this morning, and none of that was there.
https://www.haltech.com/download-files/firmware/ |
That's a link to every update, ever. Does adaptronic even catalog their software iterations? I assume they dont, as they dont even have a manual as to how it operates/operated on any version at any point. Every iteration of the haltech software comes with the option to download its respective FULL manual (500+ pages) that details every function. Suggesting the software between these two is anywhere near the same development level is a complete farce.
Skeese |
Originally Posted by Skeese
(Post 12358426)
That's a link to every update, ever. Does adaptronic even catalog their software iterations? I assume they dont, as they dont even have a manual as to how it operates/operated on any version at any point. Every iteration of the haltech software comes with the option to download its respective FULL manual (500+ pages) that details every function. Suggesting the software between these two is anywhere near the same development level is a complete farce.
Skeese
Originally Posted by Skeese
(Post 12358426)
I think 6-8 months later, the change was implemented in the software. Point being, they fully think about an update, work it out, test it, and only once its solid and proven, release it.
- Fixes an Flat-Shift issue introduced in 2.32.0 firmware :icon_tup: |
Originally Posted by Skeese
(Post 12358426)
That's a link to every update, ever. Does adaptronic even catalog their software iterations? I assume they dont, as they dont even have a manual as to how it operates/operated on any version at any point. Every iteration of the haltech software comes with the option to download its respective FULL manual (500+ pages) that details every function. Suggesting the software between these two is anywhere near the same development level is a complete farce.
Skeese I think you're letting some personal bias cloud the issue of general software buggyness. Software has bugs. Period. Haltech makes great products and is obviously far more reliable, tested, and supported than Adaptronic's pre-purchase releases but to say that they release updates/patches solely for upgrades and not bug fixes is naive IMHO. They're also (from what I've seen thus far) very transparent with their failures. Adaptronic is....not, so I get where you're coming from. |
Originally Posted by dguy
(Post 12358480)
They're also (from what I've seen thus far) very transparent with their failures. Adaptronic is....not, so I get where you're coming from.
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Man I had issues with my Select ECU and I upgraded to the modular to fix the issues I was having. My car is running great now but I'm nervous AF after reading all this.
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Originally Posted by silverTRD
(Post 12358574)
Man I had issues with my Select ECU and I upgraded to the modular to fix the issues I was having. My car is running great now but I'm nervous AF after reading all this.
Anyways, your call. From what I’m told Adaptronic is getting haltech parts to fix their know issues. After dealing with their repair department about the defective MAP sensors, I’d rather just not. It was pretty unprofessional and it turns out I could have shipped it inside the US and saved myself $65. |
Originally Posted by silverTRD
(Post 12358574)
Man I had issues with my Select ECU and I upgraded to the modular to fix the issues I was having. My car is running great now but I'm nervous AF after reading all this.
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Originally Posted by Net Seven
(Post 12358481)
Say that again.
Am I missing something? edit: Oh, haha, for some reason I took that as bait for me to get myself into trouble before I noticed who had written it/your previous posts. Keyboard cowboys got me scurred. |
Originally Posted by dguy
(Post 12358651)
Am I missing something?
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Originally Posted by Net Seven
(Post 12358580)
Switch to an external MAP sensor like the GM 3bar. Fluid tends to leak down that long vacuum line that is below, into the ECU and sit there. Stock MAP sensor sits above the intake manifold, so it would drain down.
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Originally Posted by Skeese
(Post 12359179)
I have an inline moisture filter between my map source port on the manifold and onboard map sensor in my ecu. I dont know if this would or wouldnt have prevented a failure in your case, but its definitely a cheap simple alternative to changing to an external map sensor.
Skeese |
Originally Posted by Skeese
(Post 12359179)
I have an inline moisture filter between my map source port on the manifold and onboard map sensor in my ecu. I dont know if this would or wouldnt have prevented a failure in your case, but its definitely a cheap simple alternative to changing to an external map sensor.
Skeese Good advice, though depressing that consumers need to be overly cautious with something like this that is integral to the units themselves. |
Originally Posted by Skeese
(Post 12359179)
I have an inline moisture filter between my map source port on the manifold and onboard map sensor in my ecu. I dont know if this would or wouldnt have prevented a failure in your case, but its definitely a cheap simple alternative to changing to an external map sensor.
Skeese |
Originally Posted by knotsonice
(Post 12359274)
I'm looking around for one and keep getting searches for air guns and the sort. What are you using?
HKS EVC Filter |
Originally Posted by knotsonice
(Post 12359274)
I'm looking around for one and keep getting searches for air guns and the sort. What are you using?
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Thanks guys. Will be using this with what ever ECU i get. I have a feeling this is what happened to mine. As the fall thru early summer are extremely wet up here
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Originally Posted by DC5Daniel
(Post 12359310)
Is this essentially the same thing that came stock on FDs? I'm not sure if other cars originally had them, but I recall seeing what looked like a green/white plastic filter near the FD UIM.
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Originally Posted by Skeese
(Post 12359364)
That was a check valve you're talking about, serves a different purpose.
I have yet to see them on ANY motorsports car in the history of EVER. They do get clogged and do fail. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...81f70a4634.png Cool Boost Systems Vacuum Line Air Filter Water Methanol Injection https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...8912682e3d.png https://www.supercheapauto.com.au/p/...75/337903.html https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...dbe8ef09c0.png https://www.ebay.com/itm/192694584839 One proper solution is to run a damped (T1R or FFE) eMAP to one ECU MAP signal, and Barometric off of the other. Run an external MAP sensor for your primary MAP. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...3ce14b51cf.png T1R EMAP Sensor Damper Kit |
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