Originally Posted by Prometheus
(Post 10215473)
I think a thread consolidation is needed, there is too much good information directly related, but in different threads.
PM me with those threads and I'll consolidate. I was thinking of folding this thread into Ihor's original thread on the topic. |
Here are some links to CrisyRX7's fuel pump wiring and upgrades with specific mention of posts and fuel safe wiring:
http://www.reganrotaryracing.com/fddualfuelpumps.htm from this post: https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php...5&postcount=13 on Ihor's original thread about wiring your fuel pumps: https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/why-everyone-should-rewire-their-fuel-pump-847009/ which I just copied into the FAQ thread below Dale Clark's thread on fuel pump rewire :) |
Originally Posted by gracer7-rx7
(Post 10215707)
Here are some links to CrisyRX7's fuel pump wiring and upgrades:
http://www.reganrotaryracing.com/fddualfuelpumps.htm from this post: https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php...5&postcount=13 on Ihor's original thread about wiring your fuel pumps: https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=847009 which I just copied into the FAQ thread below Dale Clark's thread on fuel pump rewire :) looks like the same part is in this pic: http://www.reganrotaryracing.com/dualpumpcover.jpg |
Originally Posted by theorie
(Post 10215134)
What about this:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-G1431/ https://static.summitracing.com/glob.../sum-g1431.jpg This one is not sealed. I use specific bulkhead connectors designed for the application. PAVE Technologies is a great source; they will set up the connector with all of the correct softgoods. I have used this one in my projects; it has PTFE insulated 12 gauge wires and the wires are terminated (fuel will not leak up under the insulation: http://www.pavetechnologyco.com/desi...ductindex.html https://www.rx7club.com/picture.php?...ictureid=28840 |
Originally Posted by ttmott
(Post 10215749)
This one is not sealed. I use specific bulkhead connectors designed for the application. PAVE Technologies is a great source; they will set up the connector with all of the correct softgoods. I have used this one in my projects; it has PTFE insulated 12 gauge wires and the wires are terminated (fuel will not leak up under the insulation:
http://www.pavetechnologyco.com/desi...ductindex.html http://www.caswellplating.com/permat...ketmakers.html Permatex® Super High Tack™ Gasket Sealant http://www.caswellplating.com/permat.../perm80060.jpg Fast-drying sealant dries to a highly tacky, non-brittle film. Temperature range -65°F to 500°F (-54°C to 260°C); resists gasoline, oil, antifreeze, axle lube. http://www.etrailer.com/dept-pg-Acce...gw-1_Wire.aspx [quote=Standard Copper Primary Wire is widely used in the trailer and automotive industry for original equipment and replacement wiring. The General Purpose Thermo-Plastic (GPT) Insulation is highly resistant to acids, gasoline, oil, grease and most industrial solvents. Meets SAE J1128 Specifications. For use with 50 volts or less, 176 degrees Fahrenheit.[/quote] or this: http://www.supremehardware.com/servl...RY-WIRE/Detail Gb Xtreme Primary Wire rated 600 v vinyl insulation resists water, battery acid, oil gasoline, and uv radiation tin plated copper for corrosion resistance ultra flexible to resist fatigue due to vibration and flexing ul listed 10 gauge; red 8'coil |
So is it possible to get the gasoline safe wire and bulkhead connectors online at the same place?
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Not sure. I know someone's gonna hate on my shopping list, but here is what I'm going to use:
(x2) Summit Racing® Bulkhead Cable Connector SUM-G1431 = $24.95 shipped (x1) Permatex® Super High Tack™ Gasket Sealant = $3.99 (Purchased Local) (x2) GB Xtreme Primary Wire 10-Gauge, 8-foot (Black & Red) = $22.93 shipped (x1) Non-Insulated Ring Terminal 10-Gauge (Pack of 20) = $4.99 (Purchased Local) So my total is a little over $60. Keep in mind I already have the wiring done from the battery to the top of the bulkhead with 10-Gauge wire and a Bosch relay. I'll share pics when I get the parts... |
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worked on the fuel pump wiring at SuckieBomb Garage today
new sock https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1284953342 holes cut for bulkhead connectors https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1284953342 https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1284953342 new wires with ring terminals. bulkhead connectors sealed with gasoline-safe gasket maker: https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1284953342 https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1284953342 |
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putting it back in:
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1284953512 all hooked up: https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1284953512 then rich and his IRP thugs showed up and ruined the party. https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1284953512 |
Originally Posted by theorie
(Post 10224922)
then rich and his IRP thugs showed up and ruined the party. https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1284953512 :lol::lol::lol::lol: |
Originally Posted by ttmott
(Post 10215749)
This one is not sealed. I use specific bulkhead connectors designed for the application. PAVE Technologies is a great source; they will set up the connector with all of the correct softgoods. I have used this one in my projects; it has PTFE insulated 12 gauge wires and the wires are terminated (fuel will not leak up under the insulation:
http://www.pavetechnologyco.com/desi...ductindex.html https://www.rx7club.com/picture.php?...ictureid=28840 |
It's been a few years but I think the wall connector was about $40 and the cable end was less with hermetic seals... Call them 937.890.1100 x6
Also try Newark Electronics they carry a wide line of connectors. Lastly, Alvatek specalizes in aircraft connectors 1-888-965-7278 |
just wanted to update about my fix.
so i had a small problem, fortunately it happened within 24 hours. the electrical bulkhead pass-thru connectors weren't sealed properly. apparently i let the gasket maker set-up for too long and then didn't tighten the locking nut enough so i had fuel seeping out (very little but enough to get the top of the bulkhead 'wet' with fuel). i noticed it right away because of the smell coming from my trunk area. haha i pulled the assembly again, removed the new connectors, cleaned them, and then re-installed them with new gasket maker and got the locking nuts proper tight. no more leaking! it's been about a month now and still no problem. cheers. |
on a side note, the second bulkhead isn't necessary for a ground, the pump can be grounded through the pump housing. only one bulkhead per pump as the ground doesn't need to be isolated and is necessary for the fuel level sender and low fuel level lights(if you're omitting the stock ground wire, i would at least upgrade the wiring diameter and run a gold plated terminal).
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what kind of drill bit did you use to cut the holes out? size?
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Originally Posted by theorie
(Post 10277739)
just wanted to update about my fix.
so i had a small problem, fortunately it happened within 24 hours. the electrical bulkhead pass-thru connectors weren't sealed properly. apparently i let the gasket maker set-up for too long and then didn't tighten the locking nut enough so i had fuel seeping out (very little but enough to get the top of the bulkhead 'wet' with fuel). i noticed it right away because of the smell coming from my trunk area. haha i pulled the assembly again, removed the new connectors, cleaned them, and then re-installed them with new gasket maker and got the locking nuts proper tight. no more leaking! it's been about a month now and still no problem. cheers.
Originally Posted by rizzxx7
(Post 10606565)
what kind of drill bit did you use to cut the holes out? size?
Originally Posted by Karack
(Post 10394184)
on a side note, the second bulkhead isn't necessary for a ground, the pump can be grounded through the pump housing. only one bulkhead per pump as the ground doesn't need to be isolated and is necessary for the fuel level sender and low fuel level lights(if you're omitting the stock ground wire, i would at least upgrade the wiring diameter and run a gold plated terminal).
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Originally Posted by 87 t-66
(Post 10607482)
any further issues? i am looking to do this soon and was going to purchase those same connectors
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Originally Posted by 87 t-66
(Post 10607482)
so if i keep the stock sending unit connector in place (using only 2 wires), and run separate power and ground wires, the fuel level gauge and low fuel light wont work?
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theorie - did you remove your fuel level float? do you just now go with mileage for fuel level?
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Originally Posted by rizzxx7
(Post 10608386)
theorie - did you remove your fuel level float? do you just now go with mileage for fuel level?
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I Didn't see it on the pics, maybe hes got it hooked up differently?
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Originally Posted by rizzxx7
(Post 10608386)
theorie - did you remove your fuel level float? do you just now go with mileage for fuel level?
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Tom, do you think one of these connectors will be sufficient to get enough voltage for two pumps?
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Originally Posted by KKMpunkrock2011
(Post 10715868)
Tom, do you think one of these connectors will be sufficient to get enough voltage for two pumps?
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...7/IMAG0191.jpg |
Originally Posted by Alex Rodriguez
(Post 10716187)
Note the barb fittings where changed to 3/8 instead of the big 1/2 ones
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z...7/IMAG0191.jpg |
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