yeah, i saw it advertised somewhere, it looked pretty cool.
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Are those APC fire extinguishers any good???
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Jonski, thats exactly what I was thinking of doing!!!! I'm glad to see it fits. What fire extinguisher is that?
Also, how did you secure it? Did you have to remove the bins to bolt it into the underside or did you just screw it in? I figured the plastic wasnt thick enough to just screw in and hold strong and that you would have to install bolt or something on the underside. How did you do it? Thanks, STEPHEN |
3M double stick tape? i'm weary of drilling holes.
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Originally posted by RX7Elmo 3M double stick tape? i'm weary of drilling holes. I did find this link BTW. http://www.livermoreperformance.com/...%20System.html Not a bad price. |
For a street car I dont think I'd want something like that, it would suck if someone accedently pulled the cable hehe
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Originally posted by SPOautos For a street car I dont think I'd want something like that, it would suck if someone accedently pulled the cable hehe STEPHEN I've used a halon on a gasoline fire, very impressive and worth the money. |
SPOautos,
That's a Kidde BC chemical (fuel and electrical fire) extinguisher. It came with a mounting device that screws to a surface. I wouldn't advise the tape, because it gets so hot in the car that it might just melt off. |
Yea, there is no way tape would hold a extinguisher in a wreck, i wouldnt even consider doing that!!!!!
I thought about taking a peice of 1/8" SS plate and drilling 2 holes in it to put on the backside of the plastic then running the bolt thru the plastic and SS plate then bolting it. That should make it much stronger. It'll just be a pita to pull the bins out to do it and I also dont like to drill holes in my car....ouch!!!! STEPHEN |
Originally posted by jspecracer7 Hey Jason, You have a full 7 point roll cage? Custom build or was it a "kit". I'll need one eventually since my car doesn't have ANY luxuries except for a cd player and 2 alpine speakers.:p: HAHAHA Its CUSCO 7 point... I want to get a custom one, but CASH! Dragon liked the room there was with my cage too I think... |
Originally posted by grampa I've been in high speed accidents, even screwing something as heavy as an extinguisher to plastc is not a good idea. It will break loose and become a nice heavy object that can really make pain. I did find this link BTW. http://www.livermoreperformance.com/...%20System.html Not a bad price. Makes a lot of sense since all you've got to do is pull the handle and get the hell out. I would put the bottle in my storage bin, quick release in my glove compartment, and three nozzles spaced evenly on the fire wall pointing forward. Just make sure the glove compartment is unlocked.... Everyone should have a fire extinguisher within easy reach. If you've got it in your storage bin or rear hatch the extra time required to pop the hood, get it out, run around to the front, open the hood, get burned from the flash as you add extra oygen to the fire and actually use it may mean the difference between life and death. One word of caution on Halon - it would NOT be good to use in the cabin with your windows rolled up. Since it displaces oxygen to snuff the fire it can also mess with your lungs as well. It is excellent in confined spaces but rather worthless in the open. I would think that taking a deep breath of Halon (and you are going to be breathing deep in a panic situation) would be like trying to breathe underwater - instant black out. One more time: If you have an extinguisher with a plastic neck throw it out - they are worthless since they ALL leak, especially in an evironment like a car interior with wide temperature swings. It's hard to believe they are even allowed on the market. They are junk. Sure, they are only $10.00 and a steel neck is $20.00. How much is your life worth? |
Originally posted by RonKMiller It is excellent in confined spaces but rather worthless in the open. I would think that taking a deep breath of Halon (and you are going to be breathing deep in a panic situation) would be like trying to breathe underwater - instant black out. As for breathing it I don't think you would black out instantly but keep breathing it for more that several seconds you can get kind of sleepy... |
Originally posted by grampa I've used halon in the open on a gasoline fire, it works quite well as long as you point it at the fire. I've seen test films where halon was used on a simulated aircraft fuel tank fire in a wind tunnel, the fire was out in a second once the halon hit. As for breathing it I don't think you would black out instantly but keep breathing it for more that several seconds you can get kind of sleepy... Great stuff but $$. As usual anything that works as advertised is expensive........ |
Do you think you can put out an engine fire in under 15 seconds (w/ the 2.5 lb extinguisher)? I don't think so. Oh, and you're assuming that the average person knows to aim at the base of a fire as well as use a sort of sweeping motion right? The average person doesn't know this. |
I think it was designed for an aircraft engine compartment which is VERY tightly cowled and 1/3 the overall size of a car engine compartment. 2.5 lb. is good for 10 seconds worth of discharge, adequate for a small confined fired.
Yeah, I would want a bigger bottle also. It would be a bummer to have a raging fire, you are half way toward getting it out and then PPPFFFFFFFFT. EMPTY!:eek: :devil: |
Originally posted by DomFD3S Do you think you can put out an engine fire in under 15 seconds (w/ the 2.5 lb extinguisher)? I don't think so. Oh, and you're assuming that the average person knows to aim at the base of a fire as well as use a sort of sweeping motion right? The average person doesn't know this. As for sweeping, not really needed, halon tends to seek the flame. |
Originally posted by grampa The gasoline fire I put out was a burst two gallon fuel tank on a generator. It was out in less that a second with a single blast from a 5lb halon, leaving enough halon for another few blasts. Halon is incredibly effective, comparing it to conventional extinguishers is like comparign an FD to a Neon. As for sweeping, not really needed, halon tends to seek the flame. It looks like the small size would be very appropriate for car use IF focused on the source. Oh by the way, there are different kinds of Halon, one is a streaming liquid, the other is all gas. Depends on the application. |
And yet more info on Halon: The blend of both liquid and gas, 1211 and 1301, is 50% more effective than either agent alone. It's the ULTIMATE in extinguisher agents since it chemically "breaks" combustion.
Interesting stuff. Regular fire extinguishers suck by comparison. Might put out a fire in your kitchen but your car - doubtful. |
I mounted mine in front of the passenger seat using a custom aluminum bracket. This is where a lot of Porsche club racers put theirs. The extinguisher mounts to the front seat brackets and is not in the way of passenger feet as it rest under their legs.
It's also in a great location for the driver as you can easily reach it without turning around in the event of an emergency. I'll try and get some pics... Gene |
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