i got involved in some incident where my insurance will have to cover my motor and turbos but they'll just cover a stock motor and stock twins which the dealer quoted me $3700 for mazda reman and $4600 for the stock twins new.

so would you guys just buy a mazda reman? for the turbos i don't know what to do i was thinking i'd get a bnr stage3 since i have a single hks turbo on there already. i kind of miss sequential twins.

 

Dude, get the reman since your insurance is paying for it and then port it and put it back together. Get the twins too if your insurance is paying and sell them, why would you keep them if you have a single setup already ?

 

I agree with Twin. Just get them and sell it. Make money off your Ins. it's not often you get to screw them.

 

lol you guys missed it my current motor is shot from the incident and my turbo was already going i think it needs oil seals i was getting blow by non stop. i'm wondering what turbo to replace mine with.

 

i agree with the above...

hey force, is that a paintballer in your avatar? sweet!

 

That all depends... Are you going to get a check for the $8300? If so, find a local Rotary Specialist, NOT A DEALER, and have them port, and rebuild your motor for $4-5k. You can also buy some upgraded BNR Stage 3 Upgraded Twins for $2200+/-.

Experience has shown that the chances of getting quality Reman motors is a crap shoot. Some guys have no issues, some guys have them fall apart quickly. My first reman developed a massive front cover oil leak. The second reman I bought was shipped directly to Pineapple Racing for a tear-down, porting, enlarged oil passages and upgraded coolant seals. Rob at Pineapple said that some of the internal parts of my reman were crap and needed to be replaced...

 

For $4600 you can a new single turbo kit from A-Spec and have left over cash to build a very nice engine including the other $3700.

 

A no brainer.... get the reman. engine and the new twin turbos. You may even be able to get the 99 spec turbos with built in restrictor pills. Porting is up to you.... the more mods the less reliable. I would keep the engine stock for 30k miles or so the start f%$@# with the engine. just my $.02 cents

 

What does "Got involved in some incident" mean? How much of the engine is shot?? Did it burn up completely or is the block the only problem?

If it is just the block and if you can salvage the bolt-ons (pumps etc...) then check with Ray at Malloy Mazda. I have heard that he can get new engine blocks. If the block is the only thing that is shot, then get the new block, get the porting done and bolt on all the other stuff.

As for the turbos - get the new twins, sell them and go for the single. Selling a remaned turbo could take a while and you won't get as much money. New twins should go quick.

Do a careful check on the Rotary specialist - I have seen too many bad theads on Pineapple - besides they are on the left coast - too many good shops on our side of the USA to look into.

That's my 2 cents!!

Good luck and post pics when it is all done!!

 

boss i already have a single turbo on i want to go back to twins and the motor is shot lets keep it like that it doesn't fire up and can't hold a idle i don't want any ideas how to fix it so the insurance keeps it like that lol.

so from a-spec i can get a single turbo kit and my motor rebuild for $4600??


lets just say incident involved my car getting water into the engine bay enough to make it smoke up a whole mountain and not hold a idle anymore when fired up.


the car is still lien from the bank so i think they will cut a check made to me and the bank so i don't know how to do it the easiest way but i'll be glad as long as they cover a stock motor and stock twins.

 

Lucky bastard!!! J/K But let's think about this for a moment............................................ ..............Oh man that's quite a tough decision you're gonna have to make. It sucks either way you look at it! New reman with New Twins or New Reman with new Single or New reman with porting, twins and extra cash for goodies, or........ WAIT I'm not kidding! You are a lucky bastard!!! lol

 

not that lucky my friend my insurance told me i have to pay my deductiable which is $1k and my insurance is going up 4 points a state thing. so 4 points for 5yrs or so thats a lot of money but they better cover my motor and turbos or i'll be serioulsy pissed if its just damage which is probably barely $2k.


in the end i just hope they cover the motor and turbo/s.

i'll take before and after pics.

 

If your insurance is just going to cut you a check then you have more options. They could just tell you hey goto the dealership or you don't get ****. My thought is this: get your insurance check, since you want to go back to twins get some BNRs or else brand new ones, get your reman but have it ported and rebuilt, or just rebuild it yourself and not port it. I personally would not just take a random reman and put it in my car...

False.

Or, you could take your blown motor somewhere and have it rebuilt and ported for probably about the same price as just the cost of the reman. Also, maybe it would benefit you as Chuck stated to get another single from A-Spec, maybe something smaller or ball bearing that will spool more similar to twins. What is your reasoning for wanting the twins back ?

 

If he meant that in the sense of "the more mods, the shorter the engine life", it's true. Unless you do something ridiculous and install all those mods but still run at stock HP.

Dave

 

because i'm single the car might as well have some twins. serious though if i did somehow get some money i want twins back i don't need all that power i just want a quicker spool.

with the way its going i'll be lucky to just have the body damage covered lol.

 

If the car was converted to a single turbo before you owned it, chances are you don't have all the components to just by a set of twins and slap them on. In that case, you would be better off just getting a smaller single which will spool quicker. There are smaller single turbos (today, not when Mazda was making the FD) which can give the same response/power as the stock twins.

 

When I was rear ended in my first gen the insurance company totaled the car. They wanted to give me $1000 ish less my deductible. Which wouldn't have been bad since I bought the car for 800 with a bad motor. I then put a few extras into it and $1000 to me would not cut it. It also turned out that the lady had no idea (nor the shop she took it to) what was going on and the motor was actually great. It just needed to be unflooded and decarbonized.

After insurance totaled it, I turned around and started getting quotes for another GSL-SE in the same condition. After showing the agent 4 different SE's right around 2500-3000 they offered me 2800 less my deductible and the salvage fee. So I was happy with that. Plus I was able to pull the rear out and drive it (no frame damage) for another two years. After I wrecked it I pulled the motor (which has 193,000miles on it and runs like a champ, WooHoo) to install into another SE. I just want to see how long the thing will last now. Who says they little motors are unreliable?

But anyways they will low ball the hell out of you if you let them. Do as others stated in this thread and stick to your guns. Get more quotes for similar cars in that price range.

But the thing I don't get is how the motor and turbo popped by you wrecking you car. I'm also amazed that they offered to pay for a replacement of both. You need to spend some time looking at your car (mainly some wiring maybe) and see if you can see anything wrong that would make it smoke like that.

Do you have the ability to do a compression check on the motor? And how about the ability to a pressure test on the cooling system? You maybe to save yourself some trouble if the motor and turbo turn out ok.

Good Luck. Sorry for the long post. I felt like rambling some.

 

Originally Posted by superfastrx7
the more mods the less reliable.

Thanks dgeesaman. I was talking about long term reliability with a bunch of mods is not likely but rather a higher probability for early engine failure. Having said that, some or most of you may love your cars with a bunch of mods but those of you with lots of mods are less likely to want to go on a long trip. I have had two cars, 3rd gen with nothing less than reliable mods such as an all AL radiator, viton hoses, AST, DP, battery upgrades, gauges, intake mods and even an Effini y-pipe and both cars have been as reliable as a new Toyota. Never once have I been left on the side of the road or for that matter had my car towed (better knock on some wood). I sold one still with the original engine and just a little over 100k on it with great compression and now I have one with about 50k that runs better than ever.

But I like most of you want the fastest and the most HP out of an FD but then be prepared and carry plenty of $$$$ on long or short trips. But is it worth it? Assuming you have a little extra cash.... OFCOURSE. I may do the same when I get that not so needed cash.

 

I'm really liking what I hear on the BNR III, but FWIW, IIRC there are modifications that have to be done to the Y pipe. The only reason I mention it is in case the insurance company requires the dealer to install everything in order to stand behind it.