theft deterrent system?
 

I have read that the 94 comes with a theft deterrent system and I was wondering what exactly this is and if it is effective at all. Do most of you have an aftermarket alarm system in your fd's??

All 3rd gens come with an alarm. If the hood, hatch, or doors are opened, it flashes the lights, honks the horn, and most importantly -- disconnects the starter. Frankly, I don't see the point to trying to integrate an aftermarket alarm. If the thieves get past the stock alarm, I doubt an aftermarket one is going to slow them down much.

cool thanks for the info

On my keychain thing for the alarm system, it says Black widow. That doesn't sound like a stock theft deterrent system to me.. what's with that? I bought the car from a doctor and it's all stock...so idk.

And only the lock and unlock features work on it..

get yourself a PFC.

When you leave your car somewhere you think it might be stolen (ie the entire car), set your rev limited down below idle and take the commander with you... them theives will never get your car started I guarantee...lol

:D

K

haha thats a good idea

Hah, thats a great idea, never thought about that before.... rofl, thats great, kudos!

it works too...once I had to leave my car outside for a couple days, so I set the rev limiter down to 500rpm...when I went to start it, I cranked and cranked and cranked and was getting sooo pissed that it wouldn't start...then I wacked myself on the head, set the rev limiter back to 9k (:D) and she fired right up!

k

now wut if they put it on a flat bed...then ur fucked, IMO i think an aftermarket alarm is well worth it. Just buy the right one, dont pay half-ass for a shitty alarm(im gettin loud now lol). also my uncle said i should get one of these, the thing where it trances your car when stolen(i think its the called Low jack or somthing im not sure) but my whole point is that putting and aftermarket alarm is a good idea, anyone could jus rip out the ecu and put another one in and run the car once they have it in a different location,think about, how hard is it to steal a car? not hard at all. ;)
geoff

sorry, I must live in a nice part of the country, I don't hear about theives loading up cars on flatbeds and running off with them... haven't you ever seen gone in 60 seconds? they hotwire them all and drive'em away like they are stolen....dolt!!! They are stolen!!! :D

K

If they want the car, they'll take the car. Alarm systems only deter crackheads and thirteen year olds, and sometimes not even then.

Stock alarm only arms by locking the the doors with the hatch and hood sensors telling CPU #2 that they are closed. One problem I have is my hood sensor thinks it is closed when it gets cold and wet. So I shut down after heat cycled cool off (hood popped but not lifted) and go to lock, and the system arms itself. The way it should work is the system goes to wait to arm mode until the hood is closed. If thief closes hood, system arms, and if he tries to break in, the start kill is enacted. EXCEPT for the 10 second wait period built in where it goes into pre-arm (security light on, but not flashing). If he breaks in then, I'm not sure the alarm goes off. As it is now, it'll arm fully after ten second wait with the hood up/open. Then, about 45 minutes later, the hood switch pops and off goes the alarm. A little silly. Especially with me running out there like an idiot, unlocking the door to shut off the alarm. Mostly, it's the embarrasment of the WEAK ass horn going off!!!!!! Need an air horn.

Ooohh... I REALLY need one of those really trick alarms with 5 different sounds that it cycles through FOREVER at 2:30 in the morning! 'Cause that would be SOOOO effective!

Sorry...

No key chain offered with the stock system.

you could always get one of those talking alarms ;)


"step away from the vehicle"
"my pump shotgun is aimed at you, step away from the vehicle"

YEAH! My neighbor has one that shouts, "BURGLERY! BURGLERY! THIS AUTOMOBILE IS PROTECTED BY... (pause here) AN ANTITHEFT SECURITY SYSTEM. LEAVE IMMEDIATELY!" three times in a row, followed by a 20 second siren. It'll do this for twenty minutes, get vibrated by a passing truck, and away we go again... love the city.

Spurvo:

My alarm functions exactly how you say IT SHOULD. I lock the car with the hood open. Go inside and wait for the car to cool off. Come outside, shut the hood, and the system arms itself. I know there was a TSB involving the alarm system on the 93s, perhaps that is your issue?

rx7raca:

You went on and on about how you should get an aftermarket alarm but didn't give a reason. The stock one already disconnects the starter, what more is an aftermarket alarm going to give you except perimeter detection? (and those are so effective... :rolleyes: ) BTW, lo-jack has many negatives, one of which is limited range. Also, how the hell is a car thief going to get my car up on a flat-bed carrier when it's parked in my driveway????

I think that nocab72's idea is the best, That make it so much easier, easier is better right? I wish that you could just wire that into a button. I have an extra PFS PMS, I guess you could do it with that but not a power FC.

Shit... no keychain! That lying doctor...sob. Well.. guess I'll be getting an aftermarket one too.. any suggestions on good brand names?

An alarm is "NOT" a theft deterent system!
 

It's only usefull function is to deter petty theft, such as your radio, wallet, jacket ...smash and grab stuff.

There is nothing wrong with stock alarm systems other than being overpriced compared to aftermarket but the same goes for stereos. Aftermarket alarms only add luxary features (dome light, delay alarm, flashing lights, auto start, etc.). Installs are done mostly by inexperienced people that do "NOT" know your cars electrical system well enough to be cutting it's wires! The brains are intalled under the sterring wheel 99% of the time, unless you pay extra. The theives know where to look (some of them are installers). The alarms are a false sense of security, since they can be easily bypassed. A simple kill switch is more effective.

It is by no means theft prevention, this is no such thing! There is however, theft recovery by several companies. Lojack takes two polices cars to triangualate your car within so many blocks. Teletrac uses GPS satelite to track your car within 100' (anything more acurate is restricted to military by law). They can also unlock your door by satelite if you locked in your keys. They do have their limits, but I won't post them.

Your car can easily be stolen by a tow truck and yes even in your driveway. No one will think twice if they see a tow truck taking your car with the alarm on. Most likely you won't recongnize or hear your alarm and other people are imune to them by now.

Police do "NOT" look for stolen cars! Your car can easily get parking tickets while stolen, as my Honda did. The officer has to enter your lic plate in to his computer and this is assuming that the person is actually pulled over for a reason and they didn't switch plates. If your car actually gets found it's because it was impounded for being abandoned and receiveing too many parking tickets.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by rynberg
Spurvo:


rx7raca:

You went on and on about how you should get an aftermarket alarm but didn't give a reason. The stock one already disconnects the starter, what more is an aftermarket alarm going to give you except perimeter detection? (and those are so effective... :rolleyes: ) BTW, lo-jack has many negatives, one of which is limited range. Also, how the hell is a car thief going to get my car up on a flat-bed carrier when it's parked in my driveway???? [/QUOTE

do you bring your out of your driveway? have you ever parked in the city thats kinda bad or have you ever park in a lot that didnt look to safe for an fd to be in. its very easy to steal a car.
dont get me wrong i think the stock alarm is pretty good, but an aftermarket is better IMO, they are much louder and i dont like how the alarm *only* goes off when something is broken into or opened. some1 could be hittin ur car with a bat in your driveway, no way your gonna know if you asleep unless you have a loudass aftermarket(or that remote thing you can put on your keys). i dont see one reason not to get a aftermarket alarm. tell some cuz all i see you sayin is how the stock one is good enough, well why not have something better?heh
jus trying to get my point across, dont think im tryin to make you look bad or anything;)
thanx
geoff

Read my post above you.

Aftermarket alarms are no better! Louder noise does not mean anything. The horn wires can be pulled within seconds and even you will assume a false alarm. You are fooling yourself just like everone else if you think it offers more protection. Neither offer any protection at all. The alarm itself can be disconnected the same as the horn. I had a $1,000.00 alarm system in my Honda and it was bypassed and stolen in less time then it took me to piss.

if a thief really wanted your car, nothing is really stopping him. I know a guy that worked for the NYPD and he told me, everything is pretty much useless if they really wanted to steal your car, see - lo jack was supposed to stop that but somehow its just now working like it should and the cars are being stripped totally or even just driven away.

just my 2 cents

I had my 93 stolen from my house when the house was being robbed. Don't leave your spare key's in the house.

Also GoRacer, I think your right. but I'd like to know more about Low-Jack, even though as of about 6 months ago it wasnt offered in washington.
And I hope no one where I live is stupid enough to think there going to get any help from the police.
If someone does get caught, they wont even serve anytime unless its like there 7th conviction. oops, I'm ranting. sorry
Eric

Get one of those alarms that pages you when someone breaks in or tells u what part of car is being touched/broken or whatever and then you can run and beat the shit out of em! :D

pager
 

i also have the alpine pager alarm when the alarm goes off so does your pager and then you can run outside and torture those basterds. with other alarms when your car is being tampered with and your far away from your car you wont be able to hear it .