teenager looking for first car
 

hi im a 15 year old and ever since i was a little kid i wanted a fast car and i currently have been racing motocross since i was 7 so im in the habit of going fast.im not like car stupid i work on my dirtbikes and i work at my uncles car shop. I was looking at evos till the insurance company ruined that so im now looking at rx7 but everyone is like thats way to much maintenance for you, so i was wondering what do u do different from any other cars?

get ready.... this aught to be good:)

FD first car no way. I have an 87 corrola for 100 bux lmao.

If the insurance company ruined the Evo idea it will certainly ruin the FD RX-7 too.

Which is good, because the FD is far worse for a teenage driver than the Evo. There are very few cars I would recommend less than the FD for a teenager, and maintenance cost is only a small portion of that thought.

:wallbash:

This could get ugly........

Please don't get one...

Someone said to me the other day that puchasing an FD could be the best or worst decision of your life.... that rings true here, I believe.

Live fast, die young, leave a good looking corpse. Don't listen to these old fogeys.
They want to spoil your fun. When you get your RX-7 and it rains, speed up! Only wussies dial it back. YEEEEHAWWW!!!!!

What do we do differently? We don't use pistons and constantly troubleshoot why our car isn't running properly... FD for a first car is a NO WAY!! Especially if they won't insure you for a sedan... A 2 seater sports car?! You don't stand a chance!

See what I mean? It's like your mom and dad lecturing you at the dinner table.
Screw that. You know you have a need for speed.

Unless youve driven, can rip apart a rotary and put it back together, and have spent atleast 2 years researching this car..... THEN think about it.

you trying to get him killed?

You say that as if it were a bad thing.

DUDE does it run will it make it to OHIO

Honestly, you're better off getting an NA FC as your first RX-7/rotary. That will give you a great start to the world of rotaries/rx-7's and 146/160hp shouldn't get you killed, well, not as fast as an FD would. It'll be a lot more reliable than an FD, cheaper on insurance, better gas mileage, and easier to work on. Now PM a moderator and have this thread closed before you get flamed :D

lol COME ON DUDE, I'm around the same age as (not really I'm 20) but I'm still looking something in the second gen range, haha your really lucky if you get a 3rd gen for a beater!

well my dad called the insuracne company and they said they could insure a rx7 but like do u have oil changes more often, do they always have to be tuned?

No flaming here, but please read the FAQ's and stickies at the top of this page - they contain a HUGE amount of info that will help you.

If you have to ask questions like that, the FD is NOT for you.

im not like car stupid i work at a car shop im just wondering what is so different about the rx7 then any other car?

1. Complicated boost control system
2. Intolerance to bad gas, poor maintenance, careless driving
3. Subject to engine failures due to incompatible power upgrades
4. Closest thing in any reasonable price range to a racecar for the street

The penalties and rewards are just a lot greater than with most cars.

Again, read and learn before you jump.

Dave

i was talking about the fd, i dont care about him

Theres 7 pistons in the Rx-7... thats the only difference...:uhh:

There are just more things that can go wrong. Honestly though, look at the price of the car then add 3,000 onto that and thats probably where you will be in the first year, if you get an alright deal. As long as you take car of it and don't complain when you have to spend lots of money on it, then I see no reason not to get one. Just dont be a douche, take it easy until you have gotten a feel for it. Look for a stock one if anything.

Buy a Honda. Seriously; or at least follow Ruiz's advice and go NA. My car gets out from under me sometimes and it surprises me. Without proper experience, death/serious bodily harm will occur.

Most of us are not trying to be parents/fogeys, just keeping you safe.

im still very intrested in the rx7 but what would you recomend for a first car under ten thousand dollars( the rx7 i was going to get from a rleitive for 5 thousand) like tuner cars?

i got my FD when i was 16. now im 18, still driving it. done all the work myself from putting a downpipe on, to pulling the trans and doing a clutch and flywheel in one night(a really long night but still.) just do dome research and dont be stupied with it. i read and read for almost 3 years before i got mine.

if you can get an fd for 5k get it...

Well... for 10g's you'll get a nice roller/POS re: FD.

For 10g's, you could probably snag a S13, FC, or even an Integra. Are you dead set on RWD/7?

:Wconfused

Well shit, in that case get it! I didn't see that. I hope you ATLEAST keep the other 5G's for repair/upgrade.

Wow, this forum must have lost all the assholes cause I thought I'd be roasting marshmallows on his corpse by now.

You may work in a car shop, and you may ride motocross, but this is nothing like either of those. Just working in a car shop will net you very little gain with a rotary, trust me. I'm not saying don't get one, I'm just saying do your research and know what you're getting into. Starting with an NA FC or FB is definitely a good idea though.

Give me your relatives contact info and I will give the car a good home.

i had a 240sx salvage fixed and sold it and i liked the way it drove and ive drivin an integra but i am pretty set on rwd but what are the most common things that go wrong with rx7's?

Do you even know what a rotary engine is? Biggest problems is compression. Apex seals wear out and the engine will not make enough compression to run. And thats assuming that you dont break one before it wears out. Please read about these cars.

yes i do its fixed cylinder block with rotating crankshaft and everything basically revolves around that

This just isnt a good first car. I would seriously recomend something more like a Civic SI quick but hopefully wont kill you. Not to mension reliable as hell and great gas mileage.

wow, i cant believe the guys here are being this nice. might as well join them.
you know who you remind me of? my fiances little brother, only he got GIVEN a 07 wrx sti hatchback. modded it with his PARENTS money.
i doubt that you are in that position, but dont get an rx7 for your first car, dont even get a sports car for your first car.
you know what my first car was? a 77 280z, never drove it, just started tearing it apart for the ultimate badass little car. go that route, cause you will learn how to drive stick (i know you dirtbike, still different. i dirtbike but i learned how to drive stick first) and you wont have a japanese super car (the equivalent) to bang around.

i think it all comes down to a few factors
a) how much cash you got laying around?
b) how mechanically inclined are you?
c) how many tools you got if you are inclined?
d) being in highschool, are you up for the challenge of having said FD?

if your answers were,
a) not a lot
b) not very
c) not a shit load
d) im not sure

then stay the hell away from fd. buy an FC, get used to it and the engine, then MAYBE once you graduate high school, get a REALLY good paying job, move out or pay rent, and your own insurance, then go right ahead.



highschoolers, sheeeeeeeesh.

peace

I'll take it.

what about rx8s

Same style engine just newer.

A $5k FD... Does it even have drivetrain components? Or roll? Shells usually sell for more than that... If it's $5k then it is most likely gonna need a lot more work than you can afford or comprehend

this has to be a joke. but i was 15 too hahahaha i just didnt ask a bunch of old fogeys for advice on what car i should get

NOT twinturbo charged lil more research into reliability.

he DID say his relative.

Tune, shmoon. It looks good and it goes fast. What more do you need to know?

It's like an echo of somebody's dad, isn't it? Sometimes this Forum is a like a roomfull of Debbie Downers. Don't listen to 'em. Feed your need for speed.

$5,000?!!! You are golden, dude. Do you know how many people here would sell their grandmother and prostitute their girlfriend to get a running 3rd generation RX-7 for $5k. Opportunity isn't knocking, it's trying to break down your door. Let it in and drive away in style!

I'll be gentle:

The FD is not a car for your first car. DONE!

ANd I don't care that you work on motorcycles and do oil changes at 15. I had already torn down ultiple psiton engines and tuned MANY motorcycles by then.

But guess what. I got my FD and it has been challenging to learn everything. It is by far easier to tune a carbed bike than it is to tune an FI rx7. IF you really think that your "experience" will transfer over, you are sadly mistaken.

You are 15. You have no idea how to take care of a high-maintainance-vehicle correctly. I dont care how much you know... because your age will (99% of the time) prevent you from actually APPLYING any of that properly.

You do not have enough driving experience. Again, your motorcycle ecperience means nothing here. It just means that you are used to being able to go really fast, and biff it on softer terrain. Poles are not forgiving. barriers have no give.. etc.

The threshold of error is very narrow in an FD. If you don't know what this means, then you shouldnt even be considering an FD. Every vehicle has a buffer or margin of error between in control.. and out of control. The FD has a very slim margin, meaning that you will be completelyin control and then you make a small mistake, and you are completely out of control. The higher performance the vehicle, usually, the narrower this margin is. The same can be said for the faster you are traveling overall.

You do no have the driving experience to keep in FD in one piece. Between not having any on-road emergency maneuver experience, you also have no vehicular common sense yet. Give it a few years.

I don't want to see two more statistics. Dead teenage sports car driver, and a nother destroyed FD.

EVERY youngster that comes on here tries to explain why HE is better than the rest of the teenage sports car pipe dreamers. But guess what, the reality is that you probably fall in the 99% that will ruin an FD or ruin yourself.. or both. WE ahve all seen it, we have heard it. Just wait untill you can actually afford to treat the car right.

You cannot afford to keep an FD in propper running order.Unless you have a trust fund... (which probably wouldn't release utill you are 18 anyways) or get a HUGE allowance every week, at 15, you CANNOT afford to fix and maintain an FD. THere is a reason that FD has the nickname Financial Disaster. It is an enthusiasts car. Not a fall-back for a daily driver from yet another ignorant youngster that wants to be "cool." And ignorant just means that you don't know much about the real-world of driving and the hazards of daily driving yet. Don't get pissy, as most teenagers do.

Besides, your dirt bike doesn't get above 80... rarely. Most cars will do above that... even an 87 corolla.

You lack the mechanical knowledge to daily drive an FD. If you don't know these cars, then you will not keep it running for very long. These cars at 14-16 years old. a 93 is older than you. Think about that for a second. that means things will break just driving it normally. Let alone when you slam the gas pedal down all the time... since you ahve already mentioned you ha ve a "need for speed".

This car is mechanically too complex for you. Unless you have been tinkering on rotaries and actually doing some research to learn them specifically, you wont know what to do when something doesnt feel right. (nevermind a catastrophic failure). And SPEAKING of complex: a vacuum controlled twin sequential turbo-charger setup. Can you explain how it works? Didn't think so. Dont buy one.

Advice: Get a SAFE car. Learn to drive. then step into a 2nd gen RX7 if the rotary engine intrigues you. then get a 3rd gen. by this time you will be older and hopefully out of college. and the FD should probably be a 2nd car, NOT a daily driver. Relying on an FD as a daily driver is like trusting a prostitute not to cheat on you until next payday.