which standlone to go with?
Your best bet would be to post up your mods and what you are planning on doing to your car that would require an ecu. There are quite a few ecu's that have a wide range in price.
Originally Posted by RX7Crazy_84
i need your guys is opinion which ecu to go with? which is easier to work with? and of course which one is the best!!
power FC hands down. it will improve your car big from no mods to heavy. i would guess from all the SEARCHING i do, that the general consensus of FDs with upgraded management have the power FC.
umm well my future goal for my car is 800hp.. thats going to happen with in coming nxt 2 yrs... i will be doing the motor my self!! so i am going to need alot of help from you guys!! i am learning new stuff everyday!!! as for tuning i am going tune it myself.. i know i knwo it sounds crazy like i said i am learning from peeps around me!!
You adding a third rotor to that baby? 800 crank hp has only been achieved a couple times that I'm aware of on a 13b, there's a dyno video from a tuning shop in Japan on the net putting down just over 700ps at the wheels, and thats the highest number ive ever seen, and im sure it took ALOT of work to get there. I think a better question might be, how much money are you going to throw at this thing to start off. 600 crank with the right parts is within the realm of reason, 800 is pretty far out there.
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Originally Posted by RX7Crazy_84
umm well my future goal for my car is 800hp.. thats going to happen with in coming nxt 2 yrs... i will be doing the motor my self!! so i am going to need alot of help from you guys!! i am learning new stuff everyday!!! as for tuning i am going tune it myself.. i know i knwo it sounds crazy like i said i am learning from peeps around me!!
If you are wanting to go with a standalone I would suggest the PFC, just from what ive heard.
If you arent wanting to go too radical in the near future, but want some power upgrades, you should look into a re-mapped ecu. Such as the Pettit or M2's...
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good luck!.. I hope you have a lot of money put away for errors. these motors can pop very easy if you don't understand how to tune. but I wish you the best of luck in your project. Keep us posted.
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Originally Posted by BackyardSog
Do you even have a FD?? It says in your profile you have a 240sx.
yes ihave fd!! if u look at my recent threads i just bought it little while ago!! yah guys i am going to need all the luck!! see 800hp is my goal on 13b and i will do it no matter what every1 say!! i wanna do the impossibe POSSIBLE!! i wil be dumping alot of money into it!! remeber it will be on going project for while!! but i will keep you guys post it!! i will be starting this project probly next yr around this time!!i just wanna get all the info now!!! soo power fc is easy to wrk with!! who here has use microtech and power fc?
Just out of curiosity, do you have a project budget or is money no object for you or for this project? I mean, good luck, I hope you do reach your HP goals, just wondering what your means and motivations are. There are cheaper ways powerplant wise to get 800HP out of an FD, but that's a whooooole another subject/thread right there.
Anyways, back on subject, my vote's for the Power FC personally but like other's have said, go with what people you know or who can help you locally the best, it might just save you an engine or two right there. Just take a visit to the Engine Management Forum and peek around and see if you like anything.
Anyways, back on subject, my vote's for the Power FC personally but like other's have said, go with what people you know or who can help you locally the best, it might just save you an engine or two right there. Just take a visit to the Engine Management Forum and peek around and see if you like anything.
Originally Posted by RX7Crazy_84
yes ihave fd!! if u look at my recent threads i just bought it little while ago!! yah guys i am going to need all the luck!! see 800hp is my goal on 13b and i will do it no matter what every1 say!! i wanna do the impossibe POSSIBLE!! i wil be dumping alot of money into it!! remeber it will be on going project for while!! but i will keep you guys post it!! i will be starting this project probly next yr around this time!!i just wanna get all the info now!!! soo power fc is easy to wrk with!! who here has use microtech and power fc?
umm well my budget is around $15000 dollers!! well what other cheaper way is their RED SUN? umm i talked to couple of guys around here! they all said to go with microtech!!
lol haha sorry CGOTTO6 my english is really bad as u can tell!!
lol haha sorry CGOTTO6 my english is really bad as u can tell!!
I would go with the Microtech for several reasons. First of all Forcefed Perfomance in Langley tunes and sells microtechs this would be close for you. Second most Ecu's on the market such as the Apexi are plug and play, the Microtech is a full Standalone-You will be able to tune for more power due to this reason.
Last edited by olyrx7; Dec 15, 2005 at 02:02 AM.
15k is a little low in my opinion. Your going to need at least 20k, and you have to take every precaution possible. 700-800hp is a big project, but it is possible if everything is done right.
Last edited by olyrx7; Dec 15, 2005 at 02:01 AM.
well i am not going through forcefeed to buy microtech!! he rips people off!! i have had bad experiences their!! but i will be working on the motor my self and maybe with one of my friend! he said he is willing to help out!! he knows alot more then me about rotorys
Going with a larger displacement engine whether it would be a 3 rotor 20B or v-8 LS1. There are some very good threads on both engine builds here on the site. I personally do not know if it is indeed cheaper, all my reasoning is based upon it is easier to get to that HP range with those engines than it is with a 2 rotor spinner thus may be cheaper in the long-run (i.e. blown engines, etc.) That again is just my thinking.
One of the biggest census causes of blown rotaries is due to poor tuning. So you may not want to skimp in that category at all if you want to keep your project manageable. Just my opinion.
One of the biggest census causes of blown rotaries is due to poor tuning. So you may not want to skimp in that category at all if you want to keep your project manageable. Just my opinion.
Another good EMS to think about is Haltech...PowerFC and Microtech are fine choices too...the key is to find a good tuner, and ask him what he prefers, just as was said in an earlier post.
15K is possible, that is if you buy or make most of your own custom parts. I would say go with the microtech as well. However it's still all about the tuning. Tuning is the most important thing when it comes to making big HP. Find a good tuner in your area. And read up on the microtech, if that ecu is the choice.
Taking a part out and putting it back in everybody could do and help. But when it comes to tuning that's a hold different story.
Taking a part out and putting it back in everybody could do and help. But when it comes to tuning that's a hold different story.
800 hp is possible, but you're not going to have it for very long. With the amount of boost you're going to have to run to reach 800, that little 13b will pop sooner (not later) no matter what precautions you've taken. Plus the turbo lag will be a b*tch and once it hooks up you'll never be able to put it to the ground. 400 and up at the wheels is all you'll ever need, no matter what you plan on doing with it (besides waving around dyno sheets).
To stay on topic, i have an Apex Power FC and love it. But i doubt it will work with 800hp (although i could be wrong).
To stay on topic, i have an Apex Power FC and love it. But i doubt it will work with 800hp (although i could be wrong).
ya iwill be doing most of the work my self on the car and with help of my friends and from my boss!! ya i think i am goin go with microtech!! their is local shop around here he has an fc wit 745rwhp on 13b motor!! its near their i know that for fact!! i seen it in person!! but dangg that turbo on that thing is HUGE!! and he is using microtech he is the local tuner here for all the microtech stuff!!





