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Esser 12-18-17 12:42 PM

Speedhut Gauge Install: How to (DIY)
 
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I have done a full conversion to speedhut gauges, and thought I would share my process. I was able to retain all the factory housings and bezels for a complete stealth look. I did all of this in about 3 hours, and no major fabrication was necessary for an OE look. First of all, you will need to order these sizes:

4.5" Tachometer
4" Speedometer
2-1/16" Oil pressure
2-1/16" Water temp
2-1/16" Fuel gauge

I have seen a lot of people order the smaller 4inch tach, or get the 3-3/8 speedo. Dont do this. I actually measured the holes, and the 4.5" tach and 4" speedo work perfect. They actually measure out almost identical to the diameter of factory gauges. Trust me.

So for those of you that dont know, the speedhut gauges include their own bezel (usually aluminum) and their own rings to mount them. They also have a button (if programmable) and their own plexi-glass window. We will be ditching the plexi-glass window and aluminum bezel in order to make the factory mazda pieces work.

So here is how the speedhut gauges look compared to the stock ones:

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I went with the Revolution style gauge with white font. I also had the custom lettering put on to say "RX-7" ($10 option)

First step is to remove the cluster obviously and unclip the clear lens cover and the black plastic backing from the cluster assembly.

You will be left with this:

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The stock gauges themselves unbolt from the back. There are about 3 bolts per each of the gauges. Go ahead and remove them so that you have an empty piece of white plastic (don't mess with the circuit board paper on back, we need to retain this for the turn signals) but you can go ahead and start removing the larger bulbs that screw in from the back.

Now looking at the black plastic gauge housing, you will notice that these holes are way to small for our large gauges. I used some side cuts and started making cuts into the edges of the housing. This effectively opens up the holes for the larger gauges. Then I literally threaded the gauge body into the housing. bottom them out until they sit flush at the front.

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Dont worry about being neat, this cant be seen. Gauge will "press/thread" in:

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Tach installed: notice the alumium bezel is removed and the slider ring on the back is also ditched.

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Esser 12-18-17 12:42 PM

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Remove any interferring white plastic standoffs on the base of the cluster. These will be obvious when piecing it together.
Run the wires through the (now) un-used bulb holes:

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Once all the gauges are pressed in, I noticed that there are stubs on the edges of each gauge. I will need to drill out the clear lens to accept these protrusions. I put a bit of toothpaste on the tip of edge stub and then lined up the lens so I could see where I needed to drill:

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The "drill here" mark it made on the lens:

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At this point you can re-install the lens and see that everything fits and lines up like OE

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But then you will realize that you can't push the buttons on the programming for each gauge. I marked "eye-balled" where each of the buttons were with a sharpie, then removed the bezel and drilled it out to accept the speedhut rubber buttons and standoffs.

Drill slowwlllyyyyyy:

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Buttons installed:

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Standoffs put in place to reach the button on the gauge:

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Screw all the items back together and you now have a fancy factory looking gauge setup with programmable shift lights and alarms:

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Johnny Kommavongsa 12-18-17 01:32 PM

very nice, thanks for sharing.

How did you do the wiring and you have any pics of them installed and on at night?

Houstonderk 12-18-17 01:41 PM

Yea this will be the 2018 thread of the year with the wiring and connections involved...

StaticX27 12-18-17 02:25 PM

Thanks for this... Mostly because I ordered a 4" tach, and managed to call them and get it changed to a 4.5" before they made mine ;)

Mikelivi91 12-18-17 02:56 PM

Awesome Thread! If you don’t mind me asking, what’s the total invested amount for the complete setup? Really looking forward to this mod in my near future

jza80 12-18-17 03:03 PM

+1 on info about wiring the speedo and tach up, and the changes needed to the OEM circuit board/wiring to maintain warning lights and function of whatever random signals pass through the OE cluster now that the tach and speedometer are removed.

Great info though! Looks fantastic and would be a good option when the odometer flakes out and can't be resurrected.

I wonder, can Speedhut deliver the speedometer with a programmed mileage value or must it start at 0.0?

Spalato 12-18-17 03:21 PM

Amazing stuff! Love how it looks, very OEM+

I never liked the idea of having extra aftermarket gauges which do not match the OEM cluster (font, color, lighting etc...), but this way you can order everything from Speedhut and have all the gauges in the cluster and outside of the cluster match!

What can be done with the low water level light?

Monkman33 12-18-17 05:50 PM

You can order the speedo to have a cruise control output. It is 4000ppm versus 4100, so the difference in cruise control speed window should be minor.

Monkman33 12-19-17 12:47 AM


Originally Posted by Esser (Post 12240036)

Standoffs put in place to reach the button on the gauge:

https://i.imgur.com/Nq4WJ7P.jpg

Do you have any more details on those standoffs or are those the ones that came with the gauges originally??

cr-rex 12-19-17 12:52 AM

very nice and makes the cluster more modern/corvette looking. details on the wiring would be great if you dont mind....

briansfd 12-19-17 09:38 AM

You think it would be possible to only replace the water temp, oil pressure and fuel level? Not sure if the ribbon would be in the way or not.

Esser 12-19-17 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by Spalato (Post 12240090)
Amazing stuff! Love how it looks, very OEM+

I never liked the idea of having extra aftermarket gauges which do not match the OEM cluster (font, color, lighting etc...), but this way you can order everything from Speedhut and have all the gauges in the cluster and outside of the cluster match!

What can be done with the low water level light?

You can make the mileage say whatever you want, it's programmable. It also includes programs for oil change intervals and tire rotation warnings if you wish.


Originally Posted by Monkman33 (Post 12240197)
Do you have any more details on those standoffs or are those the ones that came with the gauges originally??

The standoffs come with the guages, no crazy fabbing needs to be done.


Originally Posted by cr-rex (Post 12240198)
very nice and makes the cluster more modern/corvette looking. details on the wiring would be great if you dont mind....

Yes I can include a short write up for wiring, I thought the wiring was the easy part of it. Getting the gauges fitted was more difficult lol.

The Oil Pressure and Water Temp gauges will include their own sender and wires, you just need power and ground. All gauges include a joiner harness that lets power and ground to to them all, so you dont need to do repeat wiring for those. The fuel gauge uses one wire that you splice into on the harness that plugs into the cluster, I can get more pics of those. I'm running an LS3, and I have one wire for speedo and one wire for tach signal, but the stock rotary electronics are the same way....speedo uses the single wire and just needs to be programmed to get the speed accurate (handy when you do tire changes, speedo gets calibrated with the button on the gauge itself). Tach is one wire plug and play.

If you want to make life really easy you can get the GPS speedo, which will not need to be tied into anything, and will never need to be recalibrated no matter what wheel and tire combo you switch to.
https://www.speedhut.com/gauge/GR4-G...dometer-180mph

jza80 12-19-17 11:40 AM

Esser thank you for the ground breaking information. The basic physical installation seems very possible with a good looking and functioning outcome.

For those of us that are running rotaries, there will be a few additional things to think about. What comes to mind are:

The diagnostic lamp - in CA at least this is used during smog check, no light no pass. Not sure how this is activated, whether the signal passes through the tach or speedo board
The low oil lamp - maybe this can be wired into the Speedhut alarm lamp on the oil pressure gauge or tach (it looks like there are a couple unused lamps on the tach face?)
The low water lamp - same as oil? But less of a concern possibly if the gauge itself is highly accurate
The low fuel lamp - assume this can be programmed into the Speedhut gauge? (although this is probably not a critical feature for most)
The overrev buzzer - will this work if the OE gauges are removed? Does it matter if there is a shift light?
Airbag, alternator, seat belt, ABS, rear defog, and brake system function/warning lamps - will these still work?

Any other OE-specific functions that might be lost if the OE gauges are pulled out of the circuit?

Esser 12-19-17 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by jza80 (Post 12240266)
Esser thank you for the ground breaking information. The basic physical installation seems very possible with a good looking and functioning outcome.

For those of us that are running rotaries, there will be a few additional things to think about. What comes to mind are:

The diagnostic lamp - in CA at least this is used during smog check, no light no pass. Not sure how this is activated, whether the signal passes through the tach or speedo board
The low oil lamp - maybe this can be wired into the Speedhut alarm lamp on the oil pressure gauge or tach (it looks like there are a couple unused lamps on the tach face?)
The low water lamp - same as oil? But less of a concern possibly if the gauge itself is highly accurate
The low fuel lamp - assume this can be programmed into the Speedhut gauge? (although this is probably not a critical feature for most)
The overrev buzzer - will this work if the OE gauges are removed? Does it matter if there is a shift light?
Airbag, alternator, seat belt, ABS, rear defog, and brake system function/warning lamps - will these still work?

Any other OE-specific functions that might be lost if the OE gauges are pulled out of the circuit?


I can't speak for the warning lights on the cluster for functionality, part of the reason i did this was to remove those. The gauges provide new warning lights that you can adjust to your liking for fuel, oil pressure, water temp, and an adjustable shift light. Thus making the OE ones obsolete.

In the event that you did want those to work, then you need to keep the speedo circuit board inside the cluster. But I'm not sure why you would as there would be two sets of warning lights going off at that point.

For the diagnostic lamp - I am looking at the FSM and I can't see a reason why it wouldn't work if the circuit film is left in tact, which is what I have done.

oppa637 12-19-17 12:03 PM

How much did this end up costing?

DreamInRotary 12-19-17 12:08 PM

This is awesome, thanks for sharing!

jza80 12-19-17 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by Esser (Post 12240268)
I can't speak for the warning lights on the cluster for functionality, part of the reason i did this was to remove those. The gauges provide new warning lights that you can adjust to your liking for fuel, oil pressure, water temp, and an adjustable shift light. Thus making the OE ones obsolete.

In the event that you did want those to work, then you need to keep the speedo circuit board inside the cluster. But I'm not sure why you would as there would be two sets of warning lights going off at that point.

For the diagnostic lamp - I am looking at the FSM and I can't see a reason why it wouldn't work if the circuit film is left in tact, which is what I have done.

Do you think that there is sufficient space to retain the gauge circuit boards with the Speedhut gauges? They do look pretty thin.

How about the panel dimming? That circuit looks like it passes through the Speedo circuit. Although in my case I have it turned up to the max anyway so only the highest level is ever used so losing it would not be a big deal as long as the panel lamps worked at max brightness...

The more I think about this, the more I want to try this out with a spare cluster and hood bezel! It would be awesome to have a truly accurate water temperature gauge that is integrated in style. For that matter, the oil pressure gauge could be scrapped in favor of a low oil pressure lamp and fit a Speedhut boost gauge in that slot and remove the add-on look of a column or A-pillar mounted gauge.

Esser 12-19-17 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by jza80 (Post 12240282)
Do you think that there is sufficient space to retain the gauge circuit boards with the Speedhut gauges? They do look pretty thin.

How about the panel dimming? That circuit looks like it passes through the Speedo circuit. Although in my case I have it turned up to the max anyway so only the highest level is ever used so losing it would not be a big deal as long as the panel lamps worked at max brightness...

The more I think about this, the more I want to try this out with a spare cluster and hood bezel! It would be awesome to have a truly accurate water temperature gauge that is integrated in style. For that matter, the oil pressure gauge could be scrapped in favor of a low oil pressure lamp and fit a Speedhut boost gauge in that slot and remove the add-on look of a column or A-pillar mounted gauge.

The Speedhuts have their own dimmer switch, so you can still dim the gauges. I ended up mounting my speedhut dimmer knob under the dash so it is hidden. You cannot migrate it to use the factory dimmer switch.

There is only one circuit board (besides the circuit film) and it has a ribbon connector so it can be relocated. I have not tried to fit it in behind the speedhut's, but it would be tight as far as fitment.

Esser 12-19-17 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by oppa637 (Post 12240275)
How much did this end up costing?


You will spend about $500 doing all the gauges, add another $200 if you get gauges with alarms. The GPS speedo will add on another $100 I believe.

I went with programmable alarms on all of mine except for the fuel. I did not get the GPS speedo. I got mine on the black Friday sale and got all of my gauges and sensors for $700.

jza80 12-19-17 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by Esser (Post 12240288)
The Speedhuts have their own dimmer switch, so you can still dim the gauges. I ended up mounting my speedhut dimmer knob under the dash so it is hidden. You cannot migrate it to use the factory dimmer switch.

There is only one circuit board (besides the circuit film) and it has a ribbon connector so it can be relocated. I have not tried to fit it in behind the speedhut's, but it would be tight as far as fitment.

Makes sense that the Speedhuts would not work with the OE dimmer circuit, but what about the rest of the dash panel, like the HVAC controls? I am wondering if they will still work with the OE dimmer control if the cluster circuit board is removed. I guess this is a non-issue if the cluster circuit board could be retained somehow.

Good to know that the Speedhuts have their own provision for dimming, too.

Monkman33 12-19-17 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by jza80 (Post 12240310)
Makes sense that the Speedhuts would not work with the OE dimmer circuit, but what about the rest of the dash panel, like the HVAC controls?

Good to know that the Speedhuts have their own provision for dimming, too.

Part of the problem is the type of dimming control. The factory lighting (this is from an old memory and may be incorrect) is a pulsed ground signal i believe. The speedhut lighting is a rheostat to inverter. Unless the pulsed ground output can replace the rheostat, I am not well-versed enough in electronics to know how to integrate them.

Esser 12-21-17 07:39 AM

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Gauges all wired up and installed. I do not have any of the circuit board from the factory speedometer, and it appears everything functions. All the stock lights still illuminate and the turn signals work fine. All HVAC controls and everything function. It is safe to delete that board when replacing the speedometer with speedhut.

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Red94fd 12-30-17 07:18 PM

Get the wiring done so i can order the gauges and do it. They look awesome.. thank you for posting.

Snipe G 12-30-17 10:33 PM

Brilliant DIY. This thread is a keeper. Well done and thanks for posting.

telram 01-01-18 08:06 AM

I saw this thread 2 days ago, and haven't been able to stop thinking about this. More info on wiring would be great.

D4rw1n 01-02-18 09:11 AM

Just want clarification on the oil pressure gauge. I see they only offer a 100psi oil pressure gauge. I think you said you're running an LS3 so this wouldn't really affect you, but isn't normal FD3S oil pressure in the 50 - 200 range. They have a generic "pressure" gauge that goes up to 200psi, wondering if that could be used for this?

Monkman33 01-03-18 02:00 AM


Originally Posted by D4rw1n (Post 12242990)
Just want clarification on the oil pressure gauge. I see they only offer a 100psi oil pressure gauge. I think you said you're running an LS3 so this wouldn't really affect you, but isn't normal FD3S oil pressure in the 50 - 200 range. They have a generic "pressure" gauge that goes up to 200psi, wondering if that could be used for this?

Their oil pressure gauges are 0-100, 0-60, 7 bar, 14bar.Fuel pressure has a 0-200 psi option.The generic pressure gauge has a 0-150 psi option, as well as 200, 300, 500.

telram 02-03-18 01:56 PM

Hey guys,

I'm still thinking about doing this. Would the stock turn signals still work after the original gauges have been removed from the cluster?

T

oppa637 02-03-18 02:22 PM

Have you completed the install? Any vids of it working?

Topolino 02-03-18 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by telram
Hey guys,

I'm still thinking about doing this. Would the stock turn signals still work after the original gauges have been removed from the cluster?

T

^Yes

Red94fd 02-04-18 01:55 PM

The one i am curious to know is the tach wiring.. i have seen the instructions with the tach signal coming from the pfc. There has to be a resistor in parallel. Who know how?

collectiv 02-05-18 12:30 AM

you mentioned that you just threaded/pushed them into place, do you mean you were able to retain the speedhut backing nut? or just by how you cut a ring around the existing hole that it was tight fit to get them in there?

Eddie

telram 02-07-18 11:16 AM

This thread started off strong and then failed to deliver

jza80 02-07-18 11:37 AM

So there is some information here that indicates the speedhut gauges can be made to work in a FD, but IMO the jury is still out on the functions not directly addressed. I think the OP was doing a LS conversion, so some functions like the check engine light are superfluous. Also there is not a clear explanation about the dimming circuit - I get it that the speedhut gauges have their own dimming but what about the rest of the panel that is dependent on the FD dimming circuit? So I think this will be a little more complicated if you need to retain full functionality of all the OEM functions. That said, the end result looks fantastic and when my gauge cluster craps out I will be seriously looking at doing this mod even if it takes a lot more effort to complete all the OEM functionality.

Monkman33 02-07-18 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by jza80 (Post 12251568)
So there is some information here that indicates the speedhut gauges can be made to work in a FD, but IMO the jury is still out on the functions not directly addressed. I think the OP was doing a LS conversion, so some functions like the check engine light are superfluous. Also there is not a clear explanation about the dimming circuit - I get it that the speedhut gauges have their own dimming but what about the rest of the panel that is dependent on the FD dimming circuit? So I think this will be a little more complicated if you need to retain full functionality of all the OEM functions. That said, the end result looks fantastic and when my gauge cluster craps out I will be seriously looking at doing this mod even if it takes a lot more effort to complete all the OEM functionality.

Factory dimming circuit is pulsed ground if my memory serves me correctly. Speedhut uses a rheostat of some sort to control a separate box. Now, one could theoretically make a signal conversion that converts the ground pulse signal from the factory dimmer switch, and then feeds a comparable signal through to the Speedhut control unit.

check engine light: if you’re staying OEM with the ECU, then you’ll need to retain the Speedometer, or at least the circuit board for it.... somewhere.

cruise control: if you do not get a dual gauge (gpa speedo/fuel gauge) the. You can pay a little extra to have a speedometer output added that is within 2.5% of the factory output.

Monkman33 02-07-18 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by gmonsen (Post 12251637)
I think we had to insert a 5k ohm resistor for the tach to work. Bunch of fiddling, but it ended up less than 50 rpm off anywhere.



i have the dimming working on mine.

what did you do for the dimming? Hook the ground of the rheostat up to the ground of the factory dimmer?

Esser 02-08-18 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by collectiv (Post 12250980)
you mentioned that you just threaded/pushed them into place, do you mean you were able to retain the speedhut backing nut? or just by how you cut a ring around the existing hole that it was tight fit to get them in there?

Eddie

That is correct, I removed all the rings on the gauges. This let's you thread the gauge itself into the housing. Then the plastic gauge cover bolts down and additionally holds it in place.

Esser 02-08-18 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by Red94fd (Post 12250868)
The one i am curious to know is the tach wiring.. i have seen the instructions with the tach signal coming from the pfc. There has to be a resistor in parallel. Who know how?

The speedhut tach includes a couple resistors to get it working. I had to use one of them for mine but I'm running a GM ecu so I can't speak for the mazda.

The fuel gauge is a single wire, just needs to be tapped into the brown/green wire on the factory harness on the cluster:

Oil pressure and water temp use speedhut gauges, so those run independently

I can try to film a video for you. I just used the speedhut dimmer switch, im unsure what else the factory dimmer switch dimmed besides the gauges.

existanzrx7 02-08-18 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by Esser (Post 12251790)
The speedhut tach includes a couple resistors to get it working. I had to use one of them for mine but I'm running a GM ecu so I can't speak for the mazda.

The fuel gauge is a single wire, just needs to be tapped into the brown/green wire on the factory harness on the cluster:

Oil pressure and water temp use speedhut gauges, so those run independently

I can try to film a video for you. I just used the speedhut dimmer switch, im unsure what else the factory dimmer switch dimmed besides the gauges.

The factory dimmer also dims all the other lights like heater/ac lights like knobs, vent settings and fan speed selection not sure about factory radio buttons and screen. O and also fog lamp button light.

Red94fd 02-08-18 05:53 PM

So the tach uses the resistor in parallel between the tach signal and an ACC 12v. Do you know if that 12v ACC is connected to the gauge or its used only to connect the resistor in parallel with the tach signal comming from the ecu?
thanks, once i figure this out i will be ordering

Red94fd 02-10-18 05:11 PM

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Hey guys i dound something that might be usefull where to get the signal for the tach and maybe speedo. Can someone else confirm it.?

Red94fd 02-10-18 08:56 PM

Well, i pulled the damn triger tonight on 3 gauges. I can sleep in peace now. :allcho:
thanks Esser, you started this :crackup:

Monkman33 02-10-18 10:39 PM

I had been planning this for over 5 years. This just put it over the top for me since the mounting solution was made FAR easier than originally thought. Plus, I missed the only 25% off sale I have ever seen from Speedhut.... so I was not going to miss the 20% off on Black Friday.

Red94fd 02-11-18 03:29 PM

Lucky you. I ordered tach, gps spedo and fuel gauge, i have other gauges meanwhile i get the other 2.

Monkman33 02-13-18 08:29 PM

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...d2c107eb95.pngI found this on another forum. Perhaps it really is as simple as getting the 12v+ for the Speedhut dimmer switch from the 12v+ side of the dimmer switch? Then, adjust maximum brightness one time for the Speedhut gauges and then use factory from then on. At least, that is how I am interpreting it.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...08e8a7870.jpegHooray!
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...ca05ce5a4.jpegI can contribute my lessons learned to this thread if that’s ok.

Esser 02-16-18 10:21 AM

Those black and white gauges look pretty darn cool

Red94fd 03-21-18 10:18 PM

Speedhunt has spring sale 15% off, just for anyone thinking about getting some gauges. Mines are on the way..

Houstonderk 03-22-18 09:13 AM

Is there a code? I don't see the sale on the site.

Red94fd 03-22-18 01:33 PM

No code. Its on their site. :ponder:
maybe if you select a gauge it will show.. thats how i found out.


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