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Shadow Dee 11-28-07 06:18 PM

To sell or not to sell?
 
Don't flame me.....BUT I'm thinking of selling my FD:( for a 350Z, the 7 is just too much money to keep and I need something more reliable, and I like the Z's and I'm just going to fix that up instead. So, basically what do you guys think???

PS dont flame me....Ive had and worked on the 7 for years now, I just cant maintain it.

Montego 11-28-07 06:19 PM

I think you're a freaking loser. Don't let the door hit you on the way out

bryant 11-28-07 06:21 PM

sell it if you cant afford it.

Montego 11-28-07 06:21 PM

no seriously bro :)

hey man I don't blame you one bit. The seven is a cruel bitch most of the time. There's nothing wrong with replacing her with something that actually loves back.

Even if you can afford the repairs on the FD it still requires a lot of enthusiasm from the owner in order to keep it.

bryant 11-28-07 06:23 PM

montego

i love your avatar!

Shadow Dee 11-28-07 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by montego (Post 7562590)
I think you're a freaking loser. Don't let the door hit you on the way out

I just had a baby so I cant be spending on the 7 anymore and I hate seeing it just parked in the garage for weeks having problems.

What do you guys think of the Z's?

Mister Destiny 11-28-07 06:25 PM

Trading it for a Z is definitely a smart choice. As we all know, the 7 is a bitch to maintain - not just money-wise but time-wise as well. If you want to buy an rx-7 in the future, you can always do so.

Montego 11-28-07 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by bryant (Post 7562610)
montego

i love your avatar!

thanks!


Originally Posted by Shadow Dee (Post 7562616)
I just had a baby so I cant be spending on the 7 anymore and I hate seeing it just parked in the garage for weeks having problems.....

Dude I was joking :)

crcleofdst 11-28-07 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by montego (Post 7562599)
no seriously bro :)

hey man I don't blame you one bit. The seven is a cruel bitch most of the time and there's nothing wrong with replacing her with something that actually loves back.


Wow, you had me going there for a second!! I was like, thats a cold ass response!!!

SLOASFK 11-28-07 06:35 PM

there are better cars to get if you can't maintain the 7... Vette, S2k, MX-5

supraturbo1987 11-28-07 06:40 PM

I have my 7 and my wife and I are expecting our first in May. I don't owe anything on the car, so I thought about selling it and just banking the cash for now. My wife told me, "No way you are going to sell it! You had better keep it, because it is your only hobby and if you get rid of it, you will go nuts" So, I am keeping it. I bought it sept of 2006 and had to put a motor in it right away. Other than that, I need wheels, paint and suspension and I am happy with it...Of course, I always think about trading it for something else for reliability/expense reasons....I would go S2K or Mazdaspeed Miata if I did. By the way...I do know how you feel :)

Trev

1QWIK7 11-28-07 06:43 PM

If you cant afford it, sell it. Simple as that.

You're better off making payments (if you have/want to) on a newer car you can enjoy more that is more reliable with a warranty than going crazy on a car you cant have fun with thats gonna put a bigger hole in your wallet as time goes by.

Shadow Dee 11-28-07 06:50 PM

ALL valid points, As for the miata its too small for me and the s2k is too slow and dont like the body style too much as for the Vette I wouldnt mind that but I also have to pay for school and Ill be pushing it with the vette.

Herblenny 11-28-07 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by supraturbo1987 (Post 7562691)
I have my 7 and my wife and I are expecting our first in May. I don't owe anything on the car, so I thought about selling it and just banking the cash for now. My wife told me, "No way you are going to sell it! You had better keep it, because it is your only hobby and if you get rid of it, you will go nuts" So, I am keeping it. I bought it sept of 2006 and had to put a motor in it right away. Other than that, I need wheels, paint and suspension and I am happy with it...Of course, I always think about trading it for something else for reliability/expense reasons....I would go S2K or Mazdaspeed Miata if I did. By the way...I do know how you feel :)

Trev

Trev, You have a great/smart woman!! Dont let her go:)

Shadow Dee, If you just had a kid, don't you think you need something that has rear seats at least??? To me it doesnt make sense to get rid of the FD to get a Z. Sure, its newer, but Z's are dime a dozen... I see 1,2,4,6... everyday! If kid is a reason, buy a 4 seater.. maybe G35? I bought an 8 4-5 months ago thinking near future I might have a kid and my daily coupe with 4 seats aren't going to work.... Also, don't be in myst about rotary cars being total shit! Any car you start modifying, you'll run into the whole reliability issue.. including Z.

Shadow Dee 11-28-07 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by herblenny (Post 7562781)
Trev, You have a great/smart woman!! Dont let her go:)

Shadow Dee, If you just had a kid, don't you think you need something that has rear seats at least??? To me it doesnt make sense to get rid of the FD to get a Z. Sure, its newer, but Z's are dime a dozen... I see 1,2,4,6... everyday! If kid is a reason, buy a 4 seater.. maybe G35? I bought an 8 4-5 months ago thinking near future I might have a kid and my daily coupe with 4 seats aren't going to work.... Also, don't be in myst about rotary cars being total shit! Any car you start modifying, you'll run into the whole reliability issue.. including Z.


I have a Audi S8 as the fam car, and dont get me wrong I LOVE the Rotary and will get another 7 in a few years. But for now as my fun toy car I was thinking of the Z.

Davin 11-28-07 08:11 PM

all that we ask when you sell it is to make sure it is going to good hands and not a father buying it for their 18 year old son

moconnor 11-28-07 08:50 PM

Financially it is not clear that a Z will save you any money. A new or recent Z is going to depreciate at the rate of 2-4K a year, whereas FDs barely depreciate at all. Are you spending that amount on maintenance per year?

Shadow Dee 11-28-07 09:01 PM

The car is paid off, its just maintenance and repairs again and again, plus the car has like 70k miles and with lots of mods and I know Im going to need a rebuild SOON so thats another big reason. I didnt mind at first about all the issues and such but I wont be having any time to work on it anymore. And NO WAY am I giving away my baby to some punk little kid lol..... I'll make sure its someone who knows rotarys!!!

Wild7 11-28-07 10:01 PM

In short, check my Sig and you'll see what I think about your choice.


But for the long version, here goes.

8 months I've owned this car and I still don't feel like I own a real sports car. Sure the car turns heads, but so did the other 14 Z's those people saw that day.

Like it was stated earlier, there a dime a dozen and theres still more driving off the lot every day.

Not to mention they keep coming out with more HP every few years making my 04 look like the runt of the litter...:icon_no2: And just wait till they up the HP to 330 like their planning on. Why is base HP important you say? Well simply because these cars take a lot of money to make them noticeably faster then they already are.

If I was you.. and of course I'm not.. but IF I was you, I would be looking at the STi's or Evo's. Great performers and they have back seats. Both these cars, with JUST a tune and minor mods, you will notice a big difference in power.

I'd of course go with the STi ;). Although i hate the interior of that car :puke:... Ricky Racer..
But MAN do those cars sound awesome. :worship:

This post certainly doesn't help my chances of selling the Z.. But I thought I'd share my experience and hope you don't make the same mistake I did.

Just my .02

Btw, I'll be losing roughly 7k on this car when I sell it and its basically stock so that doesn't factor in any mods I'd have invested in the car.
There's simply too many Zs out there to be picky on the selling price. And even with that loss margin, I haven't sold the car for a month now.. something to consider.

Shadow Dee 11-28-07 10:13 PM


Originally Posted by Wild7 (Post 7563561)
In short, check my Sig and you'll see what I think about your choice.


Not to mention they keep coming out with more HP every few years making my 04 look like the runt of the litter...:icon_no2: And just wait till they up the HP to 330 like their planning on. Why is base HP important you say? Well simply because these cars take a lot of money to make them noticeably faster then they already are.

If I was you.. and of course I'm not.. but IF I was you, I would be looking at the STi's or Evo's. Great performers and they have back seats. Both these cars, with JUST a tune and minor mods, you will notice a big difference in power.

I'd of course go with the STi ;). Although i hate the interior of that car :puke:... Ricky Racer..
But MAN do those cars sound awesome. :worship:

This post certainly doesn't help my chances of selling the Z.. But I thought I'd share my experience and hope you don't make the same mistake I did.

Just my .02


Well from the choices (sk2, mx5, rx8, evo, sti and the Z) the only ones I would consider is the sti and the Z, but a 4door car DOESNT seem like a sports car to me and the extra weight being a sedan will just be dead weight. Im surprised you guys dont like the Z's I actually see more sti's than z's where Im from.

GoodfellaFD3S 11-28-07 10:16 PM

350Z's are (a) as common as fat chicks at the all-you-can-eat buffet line, and (b) normally aspirated. No thanks.

Shadow Dee 11-28-07 10:28 PM


Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S (Post 7563640)
350Z's are (a) as common as fat chicks at the all-you-can-eat buffet line, and (b) normally aspirated. No thanks.

LOl true, but its a nice quick reliable car and after some time I will be boosting:) making some big #'s! I'll be back with updates and I will never stop loving the 7 I'll get her back some day!

Wild7 11-28-07 10:30 PM


Originally Posted by Shadow Dee (Post 7563622)
Well from the choices (sk2, mx5, rx8, evo, sti and the Z) the only ones I would consider is the sti and the Z, but a 4door car DOESNT seem like a sports car to me and the extra weight being a sedan will just be dead weight. Im surprised you guys dont like the Z's I actually see more sti's than z's where Im from.

The following info I got from motortrend.com

2008 Nissan 350Z Grand Touring Hatchback
Weights: curb weight (lbs) 3,404

2006 Nissan 350Z Track Hatchback
Weights: curb weight (lbs) 3,400

2006 Subaru Impreza WRX STi
Weights: curb weight (lbs) 3,263

Be shocked.. :bigeyes:

Triperformance 11-28-07 10:32 PM


Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S (Post 7563640)
350Z's are (a) as common as fat chicks at the all-you-can-eat buffet line, and (b) normally aspirated. No thanks.

I have done the N/A thing.....Turbo all the way! :icon_tup:

SLOASFK 11-28-07 10:35 PM


Originally Posted by Shadow Dee (Post 7563694)
LOl true, but its a nice quick reliable car and after some time I will be boosting:) making some big #'s! I'll be back with updates and I will never stop loving the 7 I'll get her back some day!

going from a modified RX-7 to a Z, expecting the Z to be quick will prove to be very dissapointing to you. Don't let their 280hp fool you, they are dogs.

Wild7 11-28-07 10:44 PM


Originally Posted by Shadow Dee (Post 7563694)
LOl true, but its a nice quick reliable car and after some time I will be boosting:) making some big #'s! I'll be back with updates and I will never stop loving the 7 I'll get her back some day!

350z's do NOT handle boost very well. I wouldn't recommend boosting past 8 psi. Greddy I believe recommends around 6.7psi with their TT kit.

Go past 8.. well I hope you've done something with your internals.:ugh2: KABOOM!

Shadow Dee 11-28-07 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by SLOASFK (Post 7563733)
going from a modified RX-7 to a Z, expecting the Z to be quick will prove to be very dissapointing to you. Don't let their 280hp fool you, they are dogs.

A buddy of mine has one stock, and it was surprisingly fast and torquey, I dont get that nice turbo boosting feel or sound "YET" but its fairly good stock "To my Surprise"

Wild7 11-28-07 11:05 PM


Originally Posted by Shadow Dee (Post 7563796)
A buddy of mine has one stock, and it was surprisingly fask and torquey, I dont get that nice turbo boosting feel or sound "YET" but its fairly good stock "To my Surprise"

Well sounds like your getting it. All I can say now is if you don't like loud exhausts, don't get the RS*R cat-back. Although personally I think it sounds sexy as hell.

RS*R
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qP_sr2okKYE&feature=related
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1JVTpD_LnQQ
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tk5mASjt_9E&feature=related


And oh how fun those silencers are to take off... :wallbash:

Shadow Dee 11-28-07 11:14 PM

That sounds SICK! and I do like loud exh, my fd is running full exh (dp,mp,cat) with a HKS ti. I will miss the sound of that rotary!

RxSven 11-28-07 11:23 PM

Z only feels faster because rotary has almost no power at all before turbo(s) spool up, especially if you have a single setup. Z gives a constant V6 feeling whereas RX7, before the turbos even go online, feels slower than a Honda Civic.

I had 2 Z's before; Nismo package 2006 and 2006 track edition. Terrible car. If anything, I'd rather get its predecessor AND successor, 300ZX. It's way fking better.

N/A and cheap to maintain? SC300 or 300ZX would be my choice.

Shadow Dee 11-28-07 11:34 PM


Originally Posted by RxSven (Post 7563951)
Z only feels faster because rotary has almost no power at all before turbo(s) spool up, especially if you have a single setup. Z gives a constant V6 feeling whereas RX7, before the turbos even go online, feels slower than a Honda Civic.

I had 2 Z's before; Nismo package 2006 and 2006 track edition. Terrible car. If anything, I'd rather get its predecessor AND successor, 300ZX. It's way fking better.

N/A and cheap to maintain? SC300 or 300ZX would be my choice.

True, especially at top end rx7 all the way....... but once I turbo it, it will be the same.... as for the 300zx, those are nice but than thats an older car as well and Im looking for something new and with less issues.

Im still debating, it hurts to give up my 7.....

Blackadde/// 11-29-07 12:06 AM

I have both but......I don't know.....I wouldn't do it.
350's are fun.....i think you'll definitely notice the torque your FD is missing which is nice. My FD is a lot funner to drive though. I hope you don't plan on putting a kid in the Z. I don't think that'll work out. Look into evo's or sti's, both nice cars.

I'll share a pic with ya. 04 Super Black with 20'' Zeniks Z9 Sabani.
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...edl/wheels.jpg

Shadow Dee 11-29-07 12:36 AM


Originally Posted by MotoTek (Post 7564081)
I have both but......I don't know.....I wouldn't do it.
350's are fun.....i think you'll definitely notice the torque your FD is missing which is nice. My FD is a lot funner to drive though. I hope you don't plan on putting a kid in the Z. I don't think that'll work out. Look into evo's or sti's, both nice cars.

I'll share a pic with ya. 04 Super Black with 20'' Zeniks Z9 Sabani.
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...edl/wheels.jpg

There not as fun because they weigh more and are N/A, once I start modding her up it will be a different story:)

As for your question, No kids in the Z.

RxSven 11-29-07 12:57 AM

I think you're already set on what you want to buy, so I say just go with your heart. It's better to go with something that you have a hunch on than..this.

Relatively speaking though, RX7 is just better.

bryant 11-29-07 06:57 AM

last year at nopi nationals i think half the field were 350zs, so i dont think youll be alone.
i think i saw maybe 10 3rd gens.

Montego 11-29-07 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by Shadow Dee (Post 7563992)
True, especially at top end rx7 all the way....... but once I turbo it, it will be the same.... as for the 300zx, those are nice but than thats an older car as well and Im looking for something new and with less issues.

Im still debating, it hurts to give up my 7.....

By all of your responses defending the z I’d say you have more than made up your mind.

GoodfellaFD3S 11-29-07 10:31 AM

^^that pic of the black 350 with the dubs looks photoshopped.

bryant 11-29-07 10:37 AM

yes theres something with the tires

The Driver 11-29-07 10:46 AM

Sti Ftw!

AdamBench 11-29-07 10:54 AM

my car was broken and i couldnt afford to fix it right away so i traded my car for a miata for daily driving. it helped me get my sports car fix for the time being then i changed jobs and my brother beat me on the interstate in his honda pilot so i sold it bought a cts for the g/f a jag for myself and rebuilt the rx. now i couldnt be happier that i kept and rode the storm out. i didnt owe anything so it was the same story just watched it sit in the garage for 1 1/2 years.....sucked.


p.s. when i bought my car i was only 18 and i bought it in cincinatti and i have it 5 yrs now but the point of the story was that when i bought it the guy told me that he had a guy show up with the asking price the day before and he wouldnt sell it to him because it was for his teenage daughter. haha then he sold it to me for 2k less. i sure did like that guy

spaceman_spiff 11-29-07 12:18 PM

i wouldn't get the 350 just b/c everyone else has it. if someone rolls up in a 350 next to you at stop light, you're not going to really take notice, where as if a rx7 rolls up next to you, you'll be more likely to say "wow when was the last time i saw one of those? " i do agree though that they are more updated and reliable, but seriously, to turbo a 350 is going to cost a TON of money (look up z1 motorsports for prices, they have the twin turbo system for 350s)

edit:

if you didnt already know, z1 motorsports is known nation wide for being one of the best 300zx/350z tuners out there. here's their twin turbo system:

http://www.z1motorsports.com/350_g35...oducts_id=1986

at a cost of nearly $8,000, it's quite up there. i am assuming you want a twin turbo system, not single for your 350 b/c you're probably used to the rx7's twin turbos.

happy4444 11-29-07 12:25 PM

if its reliablility reasons.. then sell it. otherwise id keep it. too many homos have 350's now a days... imo lol

4CN A1R 11-29-07 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by SLOASFK (Post 7562665)
there are better cars to get if you can't maintain the 7... Vette, S2k, MX-5

thats a pretty noobish thing to say...

vettes are way overpriced for wat you get outa them, s2ks have extremely low torque and wat makes it semi fast is its v-tech, and mx-5's are fine but he's replacing an rx7 not a nissan sentra

the 350 is a perfect choice if you ask me. there like 7's acceleration wise. they run forever if you maintain them well. my friends has all bolt ons and some internal uprades and he has never had any problems. he loves it. plus the high torque makes for a great ride

GoodfellaFD3S 11-29-07 01:51 PM

^^Did you really just day vettes are overpriced?

bryant 11-29-07 01:53 PM

my buddy just bought a 2000 model for less than 18,000.

SLOASFK 11-29-07 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by 4CN A1R (Post 7565552)
thats a pretty noobish thing to say...

Ironic coming from you...

Originally Posted by 4CN A1R (Post 7565552)
vettes are way overpriced for wat you get outa them, s2ks have extremely low torque and wat makes it semi fast is its v-tech, and mx-5's are fine but he's replacing an rx7 not a nissan sentra

Vettes, S2ks and MX-5s are the only cars on the road under $25k that can handle anywhere close to as well as an FD.

S2ks are considerably quicker than 350Zs. Vettes are quicker than any of the other cars including the FD, and a nice C5 can be had for under $20k.


Originally Posted by 4CN A1R (Post 7565552)
the 350 is a perfect choice if you ask me. there like 7's acceleration wise. they run forever if you maintain them well. my friends has all bolt ons and some internal uprades and he has never had any problems. he loves it. plus the high torque makes for a great ride

Zs are slow and handle like Mustangs. In the hands of a skilled driver, you can get the around a track, but your average joe is going to be spinning into the grass at the first corner. The Z will run forever? Hello, you're compairing it to a Vette, Miata and S2000. Three cars known for running lap after lap at the track, then driving you to work the next morning.

The Z is a low 14 second car stock, the FD is a mid 13 second car stock...hardly "similar acceleration".

The long of the short of it is, if it were my choice, I'd get the 350Z to be a daily driver for the FD, but I'd never consider the Z to be a replacement. It just can't do what the FD can, but there are some cars that can come close...


Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S (Post 7565834)
^^Did you really just day vettes are overpriced?

You'll have to forgive him. He's young and learning.

Mister Destiny 11-29-07 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by spaceman_spiff (Post 7565472)
i wouldn't get the 350 just b/c everyone else has it. if someone rolls up in a 350 next to you at stop light, you're not going to really take notice, where as if a rx7 rolls up next to you, you'll be more likely to say "wow when was the last time i saw one of those? "

Most of the Rx7s i see are not very impressive. I love this car so much, but not everyone shares our view. Almost every 350z you see stands out more because it is so much cleaner and modified than most FDs you see. It's very rare to see an FD. It's extremely rare to see a really nice FD. For those of us that have exceptional FDs, how many times have you seen an FD that comes close in comparison?

skir2222 11-29-07 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S (Post 7565834)
^^Did you really just day vettes are overpriced?

Wow, vettes are priced great around the same price as the FD. Plenty fast, torque, easy to extract power, reliable. If it weren't for the love of the FD I have and everything about it, I would buy a vette. If my FD pops another motor, I would grab a C5 in a snap of a finger! They are very a like to me except the motor.

dubulup 11-29-07 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by montego (Post 7562590)
I think you're a freaking loser. Don't let the door hit you on the way out

:rofl:
if you have to ask strangers...the answer is yes, sell the car that is stealing your lunch money

spaceman_spiff 11-29-07 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by Mister Destiny (Post 7566552)
Most of the Rx7s i see are not very impressive. I love this car so much, but not everyone shares our view. Almost every 350z you see stands out more because it is so much cleaner and modified than most FDs you see. It's very rare to see an FD. It's extremely rare to see a really nice FD. For those of us that have exceptional FDs, how many times have you seen an FD that comes close in comparison?

Well, I meant it from the point of view of the other guy who isn't sitting in a FD..heh. And yes I agree, while a clean and tastefully modified FD will turn heads more than a 350z will, you're more likely to see a stock FD that probably hasn't been washed and is in need of a paint job. But that's not too hard to fix :) And once it is, oh man, people will just see pure sex on wheels rolling next to them.


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