rear seats vs bins.
Hey guys im currently knee deep in my black interior conversion and I was wondering around how much lighter the bins were compared to the rear seats.This question was raised when i added a 10' inch sub to my fd which had to have weighed 60-70 lbs and at this point i am trying to be a little weight concious by not adding to much dead weight seeing how the seats are just for looks. any help is appreciated!
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I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be too much of a difference that you'd notice a problem taking off.
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With subs and amps in there, the rear seats won't make much of a difference. If you go to the track or whatever, just remove the sub and seat/bin for the time being. Downsizing the heavy stock battery is the easiest way to shed a significant amount of weight, but with the increased load from the amplifier it might not be feasible for your needs.
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I cant say I actually weighed the difference, but from memory the bins were actually heavier. HOWEVER, the difference wasnt noticeable at all. If they are different its got to be within 5lbs at most. Just clean misc junk out of the car and you'll save that much ;)
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I would stay with the bins. Just because of the plain fact of never having to haul your buddies around (or having to make stupid excuses not to). Put a woman (or women) in the front seat, and tell your buddies to f*** off.
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Originally Posted by TimeMachine
(Post 9825293)
With subs and amps in there, the rear seats won't make much of a difference. If you go to the track or whatever, just remove the sub and seat/bin for the time being. Downsizing the heavy stock battery is the easiest way to shed a significant amount of weight, but with the increased load from the amplifier it might not be feasible for your needs.
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Originally Posted by redrider13
(Post 9825379)
I would stay with the bins. Just because of the plain fact of never having to haul your buddies around (or having to make stupid excuses not to). Put a woman (or women) in the front seat, and tell your buddies to f*** off.
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well one of them will try to sit width wise in the back.
I actually agree with redrider13. |
Originally Posted by BryanDowns
(Post 9825369)
I cant say I actually weighed the difference, but from memory the bins were actually heavier. HOWEVER, the difference wasnt noticeable at all. If they are different its got to be within 5lbs at most. Just clean misc junk out of the car and you'll save that much ;)
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Originally Posted by grimple1
(Post 9825445)
well one of them will try to sit width wise in the back.
I actually agree with redrider13. |
Originally Posted by grimple1
(Post 9825445)
well one of them will try to sit width wise in the back.
I actually agree with redrider13. Drunk and/or lazy guys will always find a way to bum a ride. That is why I would never allow that to happen. EDIT: Here's why I have this attitude toward open space and lazy dudes: I have a 12" RE Se12 pushing 600w in a rear facing rear ported box(not the loudest but it works) in the back of my car (Volvo V40 estate that sits 5, aka awesome college car). But anyways there were 6 people I was hanging out with and we decided to go to taco bell or somewhere like that so we all piled in except for one of us. So this motherfucker walks around to the back of my car opens the trunk and hops in. At first I was like wtf? but then I had an awesome idea. I popped in my bass cd, skipped forward to: Phil Collins - In the Air Tonight (DJ Knoxx mix). I made sure everything was good to go and proceeded to make my friend scream mercy. Everybody in the car was telling me to turn it down, but I was just laughing too hard. Needless to say I've never had problems with too many people in my car again. |
So.....THAT'S the appeal of the seats. I always wondered why anyone would go the distance and put 2 seats in the back of a "pure" sports car...seats that couldn't fit anyone comfortably at that. It's the JDM factor eh? I had no idea Spirit R Type B's had them....thanks for the knowledge. I can see the appeal now.
But I'd stick with the rear bins myself. You're paying for a two-second conversation piece. "Oh you have rear seats......cool." On to the engine....or the total awesomeness of the car in every other aspect. And also the ride factor listed above. I can see your buddies laughing at the thought of how small and cramped the space is and how it's impossible to fit in......but it'll be done anyways for the "laugh" factor!!! "We can do it!" It'll be a good story. "Remember the time when two of us sat back there....I mean just look at that space!!!" Seriously, look at it. It's small! |
Thought about doing it, but changed my mind. Plus like being able to store things in the bins. And I LOVE not having people try and get a ride.
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getting seats for mine, I have many friends. So taking two people somewhere someone can sit sideways in the back. I use the bins for nothing. The seats fold down and they're deep so you can set something in them and its not going to roll around too much.
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I have seats & would prefer bins to be honest. So if anyone in the UK wants to trade..........:D
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The seats are totally pointless but my daughter can fit in them so it makes it somewhat functional until she gets older, as long as you got the passenger seat all the way to the front you could fit a young child if you have one or there is no leg room at all...
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Originally Posted by Fortune_Seven
(Post 9825790)
Thought about doing it, but changed my mind. Plus like being able to store things in the bins. And I LOVE not having people try and get a ride.
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I'd try getting the seats on my next FD instead of the bins. As others have said, you really can't put much in the bins; at least the seat would allow to hold stuff better.
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Just curious, what kind of stuff do you guys store in your cars? Just in general, not just in your 7.
I normally have: -Basic tools (pliers, screwdriver, most common allen wrenches etc.) -12v Light/Spotlight (you would be surprised how many times I've used this) -If its a bad winter, a blanket or extra jacket (just in case some asshole gets creamed and I get stuck behind the accident) -Emergency flashers in case I break down -Duct Tape -Small fire extinguisher (gotta love euro cars with fire extinguisher compartments) -Pens/Pencils and something to write with That's the stuff that is always in my car just because. |
Originally Posted by redrider13
(Post 9826791)
Just curious, what kind of stuff do you guys store in your cars? Just in general, not just in your 7.
I normally have: -Basic tools (pliers, screwdriver, most common allen wrenches etc.) -12v Light/Spotlight (you would be surprised how many times I've used this) -If its a bad winter, a blanket or extra jacket (just in case some asshole gets creamed and I get stuck behind the accident) -Emergency flashers in case I break down -Duct Tape -Small fire extinguisher (gotta love euro cars with fire extinguisher compartments) -Pens/Pencils and something to write with That's the stuff that is always in my car just because. 10mm socket - to remove bumper incase I need to get onto a tow truck Mini phillips screwdriver Ratchet Standard jack Duck tape Nothing else at all, I hate clutter in cars |
Surprisingly I can get all that tucked away in my car, whether its in little compartments or next to the spare tire.
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Originally Posted by RE-Amemiya
(Post 9826664)
I'd try getting the seats on my next FD instead of the bins. As others have said, you really can't put much in the bins; at least the seat would allow to hold stuff better.
Originally Posted by redrider13
(Post 9825627)
:nod:
Drunk and/or lazy guys will always find a way to bum a ride. That is why I would never allow that to happen. EDIT: Here's why I have this attitude toward open space and lazy dudes: I have a 12" RE Se12 pushing 600w in a rear facing rear ported box(not the loudest but it works) in the back of my car (Volvo V40 estate that sits 5, aka awesome college car). But anyways there were 6 people I was hanging out with and we decided to go to taco bell or somewhere like that so we all piled in except for one of us. So this motherfucker walks around to the back of my car opens the trunk and hops in. At first I was like wtf? but then I had an awesome idea. I popped in my bass cd, skipped forward to: Phil Collins - In the Air Tonight (DJ Knoxx mix). I made sure everything was good to go and proceeded to make my friend scream mercy. Everybody in the car was telling me to turn it down, but I was just laughing too hard. Needless to say I've never had problems with too many people in my car again.
Originally Posted by Zoolander
(Post 9825730)
So.....THAT'S the appeal of the seats. I always wondered why anyone would go the distance and put 2 seats in the back of a "pure" sports car...seats that couldn't fit anyone comfortably at that. It's the JDM factor eh? I had no idea Spirit R Type B's had them....thanks for the knowledge. I can see the appeal now.
But I'd stick with the rear bins myself. You're paying for a two-second conversation piece. "Oh you have rear seats......cool." On to the engine....or the total awesomeness of the car in every other aspect. And also the ride factor listed above. I can see your buddies laughing at the thought of how small and cramped the space is and how it's impossible to fit in......but it'll be done anyways for the "laugh" factor!!! "We can do it!" It'll be a good story. "Remember the time when two of us sat back there....I mean just look at that space!!!" Seriously, look at it. It's small! |
I sure wouldn't do it.
Can't relocate the battery to the rear seats...... I also enjoy only having 2 seats. Leave the rear seats to tubs like Supra's and 3000GT's... ;) |
Can't relocate the battery to the rear seats......
I also enjoy only having 2 seats. Leave the rear seats to tubs like Supra's and 3000GT's... ;)[/QUOTE] This is true. i think ive seen it relocated to the trunk before but i do see where ur coming from. im not crazy about the idea either but i think a change to the interior might be nice. |
I prefer the seats. They're pretty useless as seats but the bins are just as useless.
It opens up the car a little and feels less cramped, and you can have someone with you and still put a few bags in the back. Can also fold down the back for the occassional large box or whatever. I know people put their batteries in that plastic bin, but the idea of that thing going flying in an accident (realistic or not) prevents me from doing it. Batteries belong in battery boxes bolted to the frame imo. Maybe I'm over reacting though :) |
kazillionaire
i just takin my rear seats out. know it just looks odd. so am putting there rear seats back in. the seats are liturally weightless so i dnt think it will make a difference. plus it took me about 2 mins to unscrew the back rest and pull out the seats. i would keep the seats as the stop the rear sound comin into the cabin lol. :icon_tup:
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Originally Posted by Diablo99
(Post 9828096)
Can't relocate the battery to the rear seats......
I also enjoy only having 2 seats. Leave the rear seats to tubs like Supra's and 3000GT's... ;) Yes, you can relocate the battery to the hatch. It has been done and the process is similar to the bins. Honestly, I believe it comes down to preference. If you like the seats, role with them. If you don't, than go with the bins. I don't think you will be chastised either way. GL OP |
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