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Bryan Jacobs 12-18-10 01:36 PM

:bigeyes:

Originally Posted by Metan (Post 10372833)
thats what iam talking about.. price is fine but postage

Shipping and handling To Czech Republic $1,584.66 UPS Worldwide SaverSM
so :(
but PWR looks good.

I think you should ask them for a calculation of the right postage, that couldn't be right, lmao @ paying $1500 shipping for a radiator

adamrs80 12-18-10 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by Bryan Jacobs (Post 10372788)
great deal on PWR's radiator on ebay in case anyone's interested. ($260 SHIPPED, these are normally $400+shipping)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MAZDA...Q5fAccessories

If somebody can tell me whether a 55mm PWR will fit in an otherwise stock car I am going to buy one. PWR makes a 42mm and a 55mm, the model number shown here is for the 55mm. Does anybody know about fitment on a 55mm PWR so I can buy one or not?

Scroll to the bottom of the page.....
http://pwrusainc.com/radiators.aspx?p=Car&c=Mazda

adamrs80 12-18-10 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by Metan (Post 10372833)
thats what iam talking about.. price is fine but postage

Shipping and handling To Czech Republic $1,584.66 UPS Worldwide SaverSM
so :(
but PWR looks good.

Maybe you can buy the radiator an airline ticket?

See if you can get a USPS quote. I've shipped some fairly heavy PWC engine parts all over the world and never encountered anything like that.

It can't weigh much but the size of the box might be an issue for USPS. UPS and FedEx have very high international prices.

Metan 12-19-10 12:16 PM

i asked seller for fitting fan, there is answer
"This is an aftermarket radiator,it may not be direct in,but it is one of the best aftermarket radiator in the market."
so this is not full plug and play radiator but core size is really close to stock.
stock has 335mm 640mm and this ebay radiator has 318mm 628mm. still i like it.

Sgtblue 12-19-10 12:47 PM

It's SMALLER than the stock radiator? I'd definitely pass unless your REALLY desperate. It's smaller and won't take the stock fan assembly, so it's absolutely NOT "the best aftermarket radiator in the market". He's selling you hard, but there has to be other sources. I can't see how your going to like it once it comes. I think you'll be sorry, probably like most of his other customers. But remember "all sales are final". ;)
What is wrong with the stock radiator in your car? If it's not in good shape, how much would a new stock radiator from MAZDA cost you?

Metan 12-19-10 01:36 PM

its 52mm tick and stock is maybe 25mm... so its bigger. my radiator is fine but in summer and spirited driving is really hot. fans turn on quiet often. (in slow speed and after parking, so the temperature is over 105°C then fans turn on.)
main reasons for get a new one is fact.. its 17 years old, new bigger radiator helps cooling my car for sure.
iam still searching for better one. and waiting for answer (calculating postage for PWR)
thanks for your opinions :icon_tup:

adamrs80 12-19-10 01:38 PM

I bought one of the PWRs off ebay. Seems like a really good deal for a really good radiator.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MAZDA...Q5fAccessories

twinsinside 12-20-10 10:40 AM

If this is a street car the stock radiator should be cooling your car sufficiently. A larger radiator doesn't necessarily mean it will cool better. The problem with the stocker is it's plastic end tanks, not its cooling ability.

Ducting is your friend, give air nowhere to go but through the rad, and make sure you use your undertray.

Look into a thermoswitch upgrade like the miata or FC to turn the fans on earlier, or PFC/Datalogit combo.

Unless you're racing the car I don't see a larger rad necessarily bringing your temps down.

Montego 12-20-10 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by twinsinside (Post 10375621)
If this is a street car the stock radiator should be cooling your car sufficiently. A larger radiator doesn't necessarily mean it will cool better. The problem with the stocker is it's plastic end tanks, not its cooling ability.


QFMT!!! Many people seem to have the notion that the stock rad has inadequate cooling properties.

Metan 12-21-10 12:45 PM

iam searching through some sellers on ebay and collect information.,
this one for example:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...TQ:MOTORS:1123
"Our radiator is copied according to Koyo radiators,and some famous brand owner ordered the same radiators too,such as Blitz,Mishimoto etc.Since our radiators are aftermarket radiators,they are not the same as replacement radiators,you may need slight modify when you install.They come with the same plugs as the original radiators.The radiator can be returned in 7 working days."
this is really fair offer and nice postage for me its 85US. :icon_tup:

twinsinside 12-22-10 07:29 AM

I could be wrong but when an item on ebay says "you may need to slightly modify.." you might need a chainsaw, welder, sledgehammer and a machine shop standing by to get it in.

This forum (and many others) are filled with sad stories from people who bought "complete turbo systems $200 omg omg" "sleek headlights $200 omg omg"

Do yourself a favor and lay down the money for a well-made, well-respected, well-supported radiator manufacturer.

I don't know about everyone else but its irritating when you see complaints all the time from people who want to blame the car for some problem (damn rotarys, yadda yadda), and then you find out they installed a tin-foil china manifold or something.

Evopanda 12-24-10 03:58 PM

Anyone have a opinion on the mazdaspeed comp. It is the most expensive one I seen between the koto and fluidylne.

adamrs80 12-24-10 10:23 PM

I have read that it is the best fitting option and is a very good radiator which is why Mazda put their name on it. It's actually made by Ron Davis. Here is a site that sells them if you're interested....

http://www.rotorsportsracing.com/per...ng/cooling.htm

Turbo II FC 12-24-10 10:23 PM

Its a reliability mod, I dont think anyone is arguing how adequate the stock radiator works. The smart person who spends thousands of dollars on "modding",(in this case he has a single turbo etc) shouldnt be too worried about spending $300 on a radiator. Id sleep better at night knowing that my thousands of dollars put into the car aren't at risk of 17 year old plastic end tanks that could potentially crack and overheat my motor.

adamrs80 12-24-10 10:26 PM

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The PWR radiator that I bought off ebay came in this afternoon. I'm very happy with the construction and it's exactly what I expected, a brand new 55mm genuine PWR radiator. Not bad for $240 shipped. I don't think there is a better deal to be had right now. The guy still has 9 last time I checked. If anybody is looking for the link here it is.... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MAZDA...Q5fAccessories

Turbo8 12-24-10 10:45 PM

^Thank you for the information, I'm going to pick up one for m FD :)

adamrs80 12-24-10 11:21 PM

No sweat, Bryan Jacobs actually posted that link earlier in the thread on 12/18. I just went ahead and bought one. Glad I did, I've been wanting to get a new radiator for a while but hated to spend the money.

adam c 12-24-10 11:56 PM

Proper installation of a radiator in an FD is from the underside. See the FSM. No bending of AC components is required.

adamrs80 12-25-10 03:55 PM

Thanks for the heads up Adam, I got my manuals handy. Hopefully I'll get a chance to put it in over the weekend or next week. I'll post if it's a bad fit, a lot of trouble or any other negatives.

unlimitedrotations 12-26-10 06:22 PM

i just my car back from my shop he had some catalog that he ordered the rad from he just gave them what specs he wanted and they made it to spec and he put it in after making the mounts for it and it has ran great we are going to go v mount when i get my tax return in a few months and just make new mounts for the rad should work pretty good

jstrunk 12-29-10 12:59 PM

Koyo + Greddy SMIC was perfect in my car.... fit like a champ.

Now i am changing to a FMIC and the Koyo still fits fine (just had to modify it to fit verticle)

just get the Koyo and an intercooler and call it a day.

What you could do is just get the RX7 store vmount setup which includes the intercooler and the radiator and everything to install it...

Done and Done.. especially if you have that huge turbo..

Metan 12-30-10 05:19 PM

and what about difference between 2rows and 3rows (core) radiator.
which is better? or its the same way...

adamrs80 12-30-10 10:20 PM

Having a tough time getting the PWR radiator to fit. If you're running stock intercooler this is not the radiator to get.

Metan 01-03-11 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by adamrs80 (Post 10391108)
Having a tough time getting the PWR radiator to fit. If you're running stock intercooler this is not the radiator to get.

i found youre selling this PWR. its good to know
iam waiting for my friends offer of one of the koyo or mishimoto..
if not good, I buy massive 3core 52 mm thick radiator from ebay, which has all the plug as the original cooler for 220dolar

twinsinside 01-04-11 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by Turbo II FC (Post 10382999)
Its a reliability mod, I dont think anyone is arguing how adequate the stock radiator works. The smart person who spends thousands of dollars on "modding",(in this case he has a single turbo etc) shouldnt be too worried about spending $300 on a radiator. Id sleep better at night knowing that my thousands of dollars put into the car aren't at risk of 17 year old plastic end tanks that could potentially crack and overheat my motor.

My point on noting the cooling abilities of the stock rad is that the OP indicated he wanted to replace his rad because he was having overheating problems.

You definitely want to replace an aging stock rad, I experienced first hand a big florescent puddle of green in the driveway. When mine went, it went hard.

The reason I mentioned it is because if he's overheating, he's got additional issues other than just the rad.


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