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CHALLENGEX7 04-12-04 03:22 PM

Question on engine...
 
well, i just wanted to know if an engine is dead, is it gone forever or can it be revived?

Mahjik 04-12-04 03:23 PM

I can be revived (rebuilt) depending on how much cash you have and how much damage was done to it.

CHALLENGEX7 04-12-04 03:24 PM

bout how much we talkin bout?

Mahjik 04-12-04 03:26 PM


Originally posted by CHALLENGEX7
bout how much we talkin bout?
Depends on the damage. A normal rebuild will run you $2500-3000 on the cheap side. If there is a lot of damage, the more parts that need to be replaced, the more money it cost for a rebuild.

However, if the engine is damaged that bad, it can be replaced with a Mazda Remanufactured engine for about $2000.

Keep in mind that these are just engine prices. They don't include the many other things that need/should be replaced when replacing the engine (or a turbo rebuild at that).

CHALLENGEX7 04-12-04 03:31 PM

so if mazda remanufactured an engine, you pay for the engine and the engine only no extra stuff it would be like the engine that you had before it was dead eh?

Mahjik 04-12-04 03:33 PM


Originally posted by CHALLENGEX7
so if mazda remanufactured an engine, you pay for the engine and the engine only no extra stuff it would be like the engine that you had before it was dead eh?
Pretty much.

A Mazda reman is just a standard rebuilt engine. No extra goodies or anything.

However, what ends up costing the most is fixing "why" the old engine died. If you simply slap a new motor in there, you are likely to kill it just as well unless you diagnose and repair the cause of the first blown engine.

If the dead engine blew a seal, the turbos might have also been damaged.

CHALLENGEX7 04-12-04 03:44 PM


Originally posted by Mahjik
Pretty much.

A Mazda reman is just a standard rebuilt engine. No extra goodies or anything.

However, what ends up costing the most is fixing "why" the old engine died. If you simply slap a new motor in there, you are likely to kill it just as well unless you diagnose and repair the cause of the first blown engine.

If the dead engine blew a seal, the turbos might have also been damaged.

so if you buy another turbo, or get your your enging examined or something you'll be ok?

Mahjik 04-12-04 03:56 PM


Originally posted by CHALLENGEX7
so if you buy another turbo, or get your your enging examined or something you'll be ok?
Well, that's an ambigious question.

If a car already has a blown engine, the first step is to find out what happened (i.e. coolant seals, blown apex). If it was apex seals, you'll need to inspect the turbos for damage. If they were damaged, you'll need to see if they can be rebuilt or if they need to be replaced.

After that, determine what caused the situation to occur (uncontrollable boost, overheat, faulty injectors, etc).

Next is to determine what means you want to go through to have the engine replaced (rebuild, Mazda reman, do the rebuild yourself).

Cheap route :

Mazda reman: $2200 (with shipping and sending back your blown core)
Turbo rebuild: $1000
Misc parts (hoses, gaskets, check valves, broken soleniods, etc): $1000-2000

This is also with you doing the work. If you do the work, don't need new/rebuilt turbos, you can put in a reman and have most "needed" things replaced in the engine area for a little over $3000, maybe $3500 on the high side.

Now, if you have problems in other areas of the car, then that's more money (tires, brakes, suspension, exhaust, etc).

CHALLENGEX7 04-12-04 04:13 PM


Originally posted by Mahjik
Well, that's an ambigious question.

If a car already has a blown engine, the first step is to find out what happened (i.e. coolant seals, blown apex). If it was apex seals, you'll need to inspect the turbos for damage. If they were damaged, you'll need to see if they can be rebuilt or if they need to be replaced.

After that, determine what caused the situation to occur (uncontrollable boost, overheat, faulty injectors, etc).

Next is to determine what means you want to go through to have the engine replaced (rebuild, Mazda reman, do the rebuild yourself).

Cheap route :

Mazda reman: $2200 (with shipping and sending back your blown core)
Turbo rebuild: $1000
Misc parts (hoses, gaskets, check valves, broken soleniods, etc): $1000-2000

This is also with you doing the work. If you do the work, don't need new/rebuilt turbos, you can put in a reman and have most "needed" things replaced in the engine area for a little over $3000, maybe $3500 on the high side.

Now, if you have problems in other areas of the car, then that's more money (tires, brakes, suspension, exhaust, etc).

well, no i was looking at a rx7 repossed by the fbi and they said the enging wasn't running. i dont think it had anything like boost or anything

Mahjik 04-12-04 04:22 PM


Originally posted by CHALLENGEX7
well, no i was looking at a rx7 repossed by the fbi and they said the enging wasn't running. i dont think it had anything like boost or anything
Well, you should do more research on the car in question and RX-7's in general so you know what you are in for....

Generally, those "repossessed" cars are more trouble then they are worth (missing parts, torn up wiring, etc). The wiring harness itself could set you back about $1000.

SoCalLove 04-12-04 05:11 PM

I purchased a reman and just got my FD back last week. You definitely wanna make sure you have a spare thousand or two lying around for misallaneous parts, cause they will pop up.

CHALLENGEX7 04-12-04 05:25 PM

i know this is off topic but why isn't my sig showing? does ne 1 know?

CHALLENGEX7 04-12-04 05:38 PM

nver mind about the signature thing! i fixed it!

CHALLENGEX7 04-12-04 06:03 PM

well, thanks for the speedy replies guys, least i didn't have to wait hours and hours for a reply! thanks alot

c00lduke 04-12-04 06:08 PM

If that is the car it looks good

CHALLENGEX7 04-12-04 06:20 PM

no its my sig but everytime i post i gotta click on show signature. i need help with that situation...

rynberg 04-12-04 06:28 PM

Great, another 15 year old trying to get an FD on the cheap....

And BTW, please DON'T post a big-ass pic for your signature everytime you post. It's REALLY irritating and wastes forum bandwidth.

CHALLENGEX7 04-12-04 06:31 PM


Originally posted by rynberg
Great, another 15 year old trying to get an FD on the cheap....

And BTW, please DON'T post a big-ass pic for your signature everytime you post. It's REALLY irritating and wastes forum bandwidth.

no thats out. if the car isn't over 9 g's i wont bother it. i just wanted to know if you can revive a motor.

CHALLENGEX7 04-12-04 06:33 PM

oh yeah and rynberg, if its that big can you edit it for me?


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