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Old 12-31-07, 07:16 PM
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Price of FD's on Autotrader!

damn, i was bored and was thinking about snatching up a white fd for the garage. I couldn't believe how much fds are listed for these days. it seems everyone of them was over 25k even with 125k miles. WTF, are people actually paying these prices? I should have left mine stock. ok, i will sell mine for 50k full bridge port. lol i think i want me a new zr-1. happy new year guys. kvn
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Autotrader has always been like this for FDs. I think it is the main reason that many people have unrealistic ideas of what their FDs are worth. $20k+ asking prices for cars with 100k+ miles is not uncommon. I've seen several cars sit for over a year on Autotrader with the same loopy asking price.
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nah most of them sell for between 10-16k
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My FD has 102k on the chassis, however, it has a brand new engine (not a reman or rebuild) and a transmission that only has the gears and shafts and case as original parts. Plus every bushing has been replaced (or will be before it is running again) and new injectors, and a refreshed engine harness, etc. etc.

I wouldn't sell mine for any less than 25k.

Although, it is a 95, so that helps... a little.

I have already had 2 offers for 25k once it is running. Wouldn't be a bad profit margin, but I just dont know if I can bring myself to sell my baby. my fiorst FD and it is a 95... Makes me sad to think about it after all the split knuckles and headaches and celebrations when something goes together right. /sentimental bs
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I find good deals on them most of the time there...
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Originally Posted by moconnor
Autotrader has always been like this for FDs. I think it is the main reason that many people have unrealistic ideas of what their FDs are worth. $20k+ asking prices for cars with 100k+ miles is not uncommon. I've seen several cars sit for over a year on Autotrader with the same loopy asking price.
I see alot of this too. I also see well priced FD's. I think these cars will always be priced higher then their book value. It's all relative. A car is worth what someone will pay. Just search around, you can find some good deals. I have found www.Craigslist.com to be useful. I live in TX so it helps.

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For $25k any sensible FD buyer should expect a showroom R1/R2 with ~20k miles. The only plausible way to reach $25k with high chassis miles involve the initials LS1 or 20B.

You could certainly ask $25k for your car, but a realistic selling price with those high chassis miles would be about $10k less. Offers mean nothing - financing is usually the deal killer because a finance company will not give ~$10k above blue book for an old car and buyers with that much cash probably have a better sense of the market.
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Good running fds sell between 12-16k. Good running white fds sell for 16-20k on the average. You wont find many good running white fds get below $16k even if the mileage is 150k. There is just way too much demand for white fds.
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Originally Posted by gmonsen
And my sincerest apologies, but, while white may be very desirable somewhere, it wof course the least popular color as sold in the US, with the 723 chaste white cars representing 5.2% of US production. Now, of course, there may be some people who value white more highly, but I would very seriously need some sort of data to start thinking that white in any way added value. If you could give us a bit more on this, I'd appreciate it. Frankly, I have always thought white was the least popular color and that prices should reflect that. Now, that single perlie white 94 is in fact worth a lot...
Now you have me curious... Where can I find the US sales breakdown for the FD? ie how many of what color were actually sold in 93-95?
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I think the value of white now is related to supply & demand instead of popularity. Maybe Autotrader values red more because so many more were made, but economic principles drive up the price of white because of the lower supply.
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Now you have me curious... Where can I find the US sales breakdown for the FD? ie how many of what color were actually sold in 93-95?
dhays, here is one link on the production numbers by color...

http://www.fd3s.net/history.html#NUM
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Originally Posted by gmonsen
Each year the mileage on the cars out there goes up and there are fewer really nice, low mileage cars and yet there are probably more guys each year that really want one. So, two years later, that same car with 10-20k more miles on it will still be about $20,000 or even higher.
This makes no sense. Very few FDs sell for over $20k - those that do are mint and have very low chassis miles (<30k) or have LS1 or 20Bs. I would love to think that the FD I bought over three years ago for $16k is worth over $20k now - but it is still worth about $16k.

People have been predicting an FD price explosion for years (in much the same way as Porsche 928 owners have been for decades).

Two or three years ago, the price of a nice FD was probably $15,000.
It was and it still is (which is pretty decent since most cars depreciate considerably over a three year period). djseven and Fritz sell a lot of these cars and they pretty regularly report $12-$16k as a typical selling range.

I mean, we all talk about how beautiful and wonderful this car is and with a new Hyundai costing $15-20k, shouldn't our cars be worth at least as much as a new Suzuki or whatever?
No - it makes no sense to compare the prices of a 15-year-old used car and a new car with a 5 year warranty.

(Modding a 7 is a funny kind of savings program. You put so much into the car each year, and maybe half of it sticks.
In my experience, you get about 0-20% of modifications costs back if you sell them with the car (with some exceptions like, say, LS1 or 20B FDs where you might get 50% or so).

The next class of the higher priced cars are those that are very clean and very stock or mostly stock and with lower miles. These cars are generally priced at $20-30k. These are today's real creampuffs and these are the right prices today.
There is a huge difference between $20k and $30k. I think to sell for $30k a car would have to be a 1995 R2 with about 10k miles - and it might still be a stretch.
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i didn't want white b/c they are rare. i just want a dd to replace my civic. i like rx7s and the more i have the merrier. kvn
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Realistically, its still too early to see FD prices increase, although I believe they will eventually. Rarity, high performance, and great styling will guarantee collectable status as will supra's, nsx's, and z's.


Give it about 10 more years, and I think we will see a substantial increase in price. My prediction is that they will sell for around 40 to 50k for a good example, maybe more for a rare color or low mileage.

Time will tell though. Maybe by then car enthusiasts will be more environmentally aware, and reluctant to hold on to "gas guzzlers" like an old musclecar, or a turbocharged rotary......
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Originally Posted by gmonsen
Mike (?), don't have time to discuss any more. Gave you my thoughts and you obviously disagree with all of my points. I 'm pretty sure you didn't understand what I was saying and I don't know you, so let's just agree to disagree.
Sure. I would love to think you are right, but I don't see it. Perhaps in a few years.
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shouldn't you factor in the year too? i mean, 94s are worth a wee bit more than the 93s and same goes with the 95 right?
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95's in great shape are worth considerably more. There are only 500 95's.
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I was just thinking about this the other day. I was trying to figure out how much a stock fd was worth (no mods what so ever) with 60k (give or take) on the motor and chassis. With the proper boost patter and good compression of course. I figure year would play a part in the value as stated b4 and the prices in Auto Trader seem to be in or near the 20k mark.
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You would have to look at factors such as paint-fade (this will be indicative of how much time it has spent outside), interior condition, engine bay condition, etc... to really start determining what the selling value of an FD is.

A pristine stock FD can easily go for 20. Most people on this forum start lowballing, but the fact remains that there is a buyer for most things. If they have always wanted an FD and they want one stock.. and they want yours, and they finally got the divorce settled and the kids out... then they might just go for it.
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Your right sir. There are so many factors that could swing the price in either direction. I appreciate the info I get from you guys. Divorce settlement Later kids
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Originally Posted by gmonsen

And my sincerest apologies, but, while white may be very desirable somewhere, it wof course the least popular color as sold in the US, with the 723 chaste white cars representing 5.2% of US production. Now, of course, there may be some people who value white more highly, but I would very seriously need some sort of data to start thinking that white in any way added value. If you could give us a bit more on this, I'd appreciate it. Frankly, I have always thought white was the least popular color and that prices should reflect that. Now, that single perlie white 94 is in fact worth a lot...

And, none of this is to say that asking prices aren;t higher than they should be.

Gordon

All good info but the CYM was the least favored, thats why only 350 ever made it here. It to this day is still the least favorite color of your average buyer, however, the enthusiast will pay top dollar for it. You cant make the average buyer even consider the color.
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I don't see common FD's getting into the $30-50k range for many many years if ever. It's a Mazda not a Ferrari. Though they are popular and have reflected a price hold for years. I just don't see it. I love FD's, but when they get that rediculous I will probably just build another turbo FB....
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Originally Posted by wolfman
dhays, here is one link on the production numbers by color...

http://www.fd3s.net/history.html#NUM
Thanks Wolfman.



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