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westfield32 06-28-03 11:51 AM

Okay, i just spoke to lance at LA motorsport....
 
Okay, i just spoke to lance at LA motorsport.

The car is montego blue, 400 miles on engine, but the car HAS been modified.

The modifications are as follows: turbo timer, downpipe, high flow cat, intake and exhaust. Lance said the worry could come with the new HKS/F stock mounted intercooler.

Lance admitted that the cars modifications may cause someone like mazda to get worried/ void it...

Now i am in love with the car, but the warranty is important - it is covered by rotary performance in tx, but i am going to be in LA, and am unsure of what to do.

Can you guys please advise me.... ASAP!!

Johnny 06-28-03 11:59 AM

generally it wont be covered because of the mods...

but if the adjuster or whomever has no knowledge of the car in general then you might luck out...that dont always come out either unless the repair is big...you have to have it worked out with the mechanic doing to work not to mention certain things too.

westfield32 06-28-03 12:02 PM

Which are the mods that cause the problems? if i returned it to stock, that would then change things...wouldn't it?

How much does a stock intercooler cost?

GoodfellaFD3S 06-28-03 12:04 PM

Coupla questions for ya
 
How much is he asking, and how many miles are on the car? Does it have engine management? That sucker sounds like it needs a Power FC pronto.

There are a boatload of FDs for sale in CA, and the warranty would appear to do you no good if you're not in texas. Unless this 7 is an insanely good deal, I say wait until you get here. Patience is a virtue (that I have almost none of :D).

westfield32 06-28-03 12:10 PM

He is asking 15k, but i am going to make him an offer he cannot refuse;)

85,000 miles on car, 400 miles on new motor and new clutch.

i didn't ask about engine management - what do i need to ask about that, and i don't actually know what a power fc is....

He told me that the warranty is guarenteed NATIONWIDE...


I still need to see pictures, but am slowely getting worried about this now:( :o: :mad:

GoodfellaFD3S 06-28-03 12:23 PM


Originally posted by westfield32
He is asking 15k, but i am going to make him an offer he cannot refuse;)

85,000 miles on car, 400 miles on new motor and new clutch.

i didn't ask about engine management - what do i need to ask about that, and i don't actually know what a power fc is....

He told me that the warranty is guarenteed NATIONWIDE...


I still need to see pictures, but am slowely getting worried about this now:( :o: :mad:

I thought Lance had an agreement with RP and RP only. So you're saying that the car will be covered under warranty out in CA? By whom? A power fc replaces the stock ecu and allows you to tune spark timing and fuel delivery in regards to boost pressure and rpms in 20x20 resolution, among other things.

westfield32 06-28-03 12:28 PM

ok i will ask about the power fc.

I was just wondering, what is the safest minimum amount of boost to have...?

Well this is what he said - that the warranty is nationwide and will be covered by mazda and anywhere else...

how can i make sure of this? will i need him to fax the warranty or something?

what do you guys think??

7racer 06-28-03 12:29 PM

I wouldn't worry too much about the warranty...Cavell just battled threw a claim and managed alright (bought threw LA motor)

15 seems alright but is it a 94??

Finally, I think since they are selling it, that the mods are covered under the warranty. Just double check. On your list of mods I would just make sure you have a good boost gauge and also like Rich said a PFC. The PFC is a engine management computer that can be tuned so you don't run too lean and pop the motor. The reason that everyone is mentioning it is that you have opened up both the intake and exhaust past what the stock ECU can safely handle...be safe and spend the extra and get a new ECU.

I would only check the car for oil leaks with the new rebuild, history of the turbos (also oil leaks and rebuild history), and engine compression numbers.

If all is good, go for it!!! Enjoy the car...it is still my favorite

westfield32 06-28-03 01:22 PM

Does the power fc allow me to manually switch the boost up and down when i am in the car?

It is a 93.

The engine is not rebuilt - it is a new one from mazda.

I will have to ask about the turbo's.

I will have to ask about the compression numbers and anything about leaks...i am in LA - i will have to take his word for it...

I may phone up the guys that lance used for the rebuild to ask about things in detail.

Can someone quickly tell me what happened with cavell? Did he buy it through lance and get it sorted out of state?

Can someone answer how much a stock intercooler is, and whether this will make the warranty valid?

I have still got to see pics, but at the moment i am leaning towards buying a 2001 mustang gt convertible for 15k that i saw at a dealer with 20,000 miles....it is just so much more reliable...

7racer 06-28-03 01:31 PM

Sorry to hear about your liking for the mustang....I think everyone on the forum will tell you how much fun these cars are...but if not maintained well, your right it could be less reliable.

Search under his sn Cavellm, he blew 5 apex seals and had his car rebuilt by Gotham racing....under warranty. It is a beast now with the new BNRIII's!! It is a recent thread so search on the first page.

youe car, hopefully was rebuilt by RP here in Dallas and should be reliable. Like I said, just double check. If you get the chance just upgrade the ECU...there are many options and yes the PFC lets you change the boost on the fly...

Good luck!

Helios 06-28-03 01:33 PM

did the work for you alrady here's the thread https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...hreadid=200400

westfield32 06-28-03 01:38 PM

"did the work for you alrady here's the thread "

what do you mean?
what happened with your warranty?
how long do you expect your engine to last?

Helios 06-28-03 01:45 PM

sorry I meant to answer to 7racer, the link tha I posted is the link to cavels car

westfield32 06-28-03 01:48 PM

yea rp did the installation of the new motor, clutch, intercooler by hks/f and downpipe, intake, exhaust and high flow cat

How much HP do you think the car is pushing with the mods i mentioned up above??

GoodfellaFD3S 06-28-03 01:58 PM

News Flash
 
Mustangs and RX-7s aren't in the same league. Hell, they're not even in the same sport.

PM Cavellm, and I'm sure he can fill you in on the warranty claim.....

westfield32 06-28-03 01:58 PM

no i realise this of course, but the mustang is just the more sensible option for roughly the same price...

GoodfellaFD3S 06-28-03 02:02 PM


Originally posted by westfield32
no i realise this of course, but the mustang is just the more sensible option for roughly the same price...
You only live once. F*ck sensible :)

that said, are you a family guy, and will this be your only car?

westfield32 06-28-03 02:05 PM

Nope, i am only keeping the car for a year, while i am at college at UCLA.

See my dillemna?

If i like the car a lot, i will keep it at my uncle's pad in LA for when i visit (i stay there 3 months a year on vacation).

The stang will just be more reliable without a worry, plus there is more space.

BUT, i LOVE rx7's, love the fact that they are rare - are respected, and will give me maximum pleasure and maximum pussy:p: :titty: :titty:

GoodfellaFD3S 06-28-03 02:07 PM

Seems like the choice is made for you, my man :)

westfield32 06-28-03 02:08 PM

Hehe

Do you think you could have a guess at the hp it is pushing please goodfella?

Also, is the chat not working?

GoodfellaFD3S 06-28-03 02:12 PM


Originally posted by westfield32
Hehe

Do you think you could have a guess at the hp it is pushing please goodfella?

Also, is the chat not working?

With very similar mods (you just need a power fc and ported motor) at 15 psi I made 368 to the ground.....more than enough to waste most anything on the road :D

Without the ported motor and a more conservative 13 psi (and some good tuning), you should still be able to make ~330 to the ground, which is ~390 motor. All this in a 2800 pound car. You will *rule* the highway, my friend :)

Or you can get the 260 horsepower, 3600 pound Mustang.....it's your choice.

westfield32 06-28-03 02:16 PM

lol thanks, but no thanks for the stang.

What is the lowest amount of boost that the 7 can use whilest being safe?

I wanna keep it as reliable as possible.

Also, what compression should the engine have?

How much does a power fc cost with installation?

GoodfellaFD3S 06-28-03 04:18 PM


Originally posted by westfield32
lol thanks, but no thanks for the stang.

What is the lowest amount of boost that the 7 can use whilest being safe?

I wanna keep it as reliable as possible.

Also, what compression should the engine have?

How much does a power fc cost with installation?

With the power fc you can run 13 psi all day, although you might have to upgrade your secondary fuel injectors.

There are a few ways to measure compression. You will get three #s per rotor (one per face) and you want them to be as close to each other as possible. Going off memory here, I believe the unit of measurement is kg/cm^2.....8 is very good, 7 is ok, 6 is a motor on the way out.

Power FC and Commander is ~1200 and it's basically plug and play so you can install it yourself.

hope this helps--
Rich

westfield32 06-28-03 04:28 PM

jesus that is much more money than i anticipated - i thought you were going to say 3-500 bux:o:

GoodfellaFD3S 06-28-03 04:39 PM


Originally posted by westfield32
jesus that is much more money than i anticipated - i thought you were going to say 3-500 bux:o:
Yeah, but it does a while bunch. For one thing it allows you to monitor boost and coolant temps (among other things), saving you money you would've spent on the gauges. It allows your car to be fine tuned to get the most performance out of it, and also allows troubleshooting if any of your sensors die on you. Trust me, it's worth every penny, and I don't exactly have money to toss around :)

westfield32 06-28-03 04:44 PM

ok mate i will look into it. I would only consider it if i could find one second hand - it is just too much really (though i have 1500 bux spare, but that is for rims:cool:

i will keep you informed on monday when i would have hopefully been sent the pictures of the vehicle.

donny 06-28-03 08:40 PM

First off the car is not located in La, it is located in Texas. LA Motorcars is about 10 miles from Rotary Performance. Second, the warranty Lance offers is a 3 year 36k warranty that you pay an additional 1k for. The warranty is an Omni Care extended warranty and is accepted at any licensed repair shop and will still cover the engine, tranny, etc.. as long as the mods are minor..
I bought a car from him about 3 months ago. i originally thought LA motorcars was in CA also. Rotary Performance does all of his compression tests and service work..

xchaos 06-28-03 08:49 PM

donny is correct. The warranty can be serviced at any shop that is ASE Master certified. Including dealerships...

However, just because the car is sold modded doesn't change the fact that the warranty only trully covers STOCK cars. As stated before, this is only a problem if the adjuster comes out and can realize that it is modded. My car is slightly modded and I haven't had a problem (only had rear bushings and AC work done and no adjuster came out). There is a $100 deductable per service I recall though.

GoodfellaFD3S 06-29-03 01:08 AM

I think everyone in this thread is aware that LA Motorcars is in TX. I've driven past it quite a few times.

The issue is that homeboy is potentially buying a modded car. If he lived in the dfw area, no problemo---RP can work on it. But he doesn't; he lives in LA. So he wants to avoid having an LA Motorcars 7 in LA that can't be worked on under warranty.

westfield32 06-29-03 06:19 AM


I think everyone in this thread is aware that LA Motorcars is in TX. I've driven past it quite a few times.
werd.

Donny - lots of questions for you.

Did you buy your car without seeing it?
Did you find lance helpful?
How many miles did it have?
Were you able to see a compression test before you bought it i.e. did they fax one to you?
Did you have any other worries or problems?

Thanks Donny.


Also, goodfella, will an "adjuster" (what is that?) be able to tell that the car has been modded considering the ones i told you earlier in the thread?

GoodfellaFD3S 06-29-03 06:47 AM


Originally posted by westfield32
Also, goodfella, will an "adjuster" (what is that?) be able to tell that the car has been modded considering the ones i told you earlier in the thread?
The adjuster is the dude who will come out and visually inspect your car in cases of a warranty claim. The exhaust components are usually no problem, and you can just unplug the commander and he'll never know the power fc is there. An intake and especially shiny intercooler are another thing altogether however. And that damn racing clutch will stick out like a sore thumb.....hehe, I'm full of shit on this one :D.

So you might have a potential problem on your hand in the future, esp. if the adjuster is an asshole hardass as they commonly are. Once with an insurance claims adjuster I got very lucky......he pulled up in an M3 so I bullshitted with him so much about cars he threw in a free new lip spoiler along with the repair on the front bumper :).

Good luck in your quest for Maximum Poontang, my friend. Werd :bigthumb:

westfield32 06-29-03 06:53 AM

LOL thanks man - i have so many damn questionsfor Lance it is crazy...

maybe you can answer my question about the turbo's.

I gotta ask him about the compression, whether a near gearbox was added with the new engine and clutch. If it wasn't changed, i am going to have to simply go by his word and take it that it is in good condition with no 5th gear syncro problems...

Would new turbo's have been added if the engine was replaced? If not, i will have to ask if they have been rebuilt and or if they have any leaks.

Gotta ask if it has a power fc, if the new engine has had minor recalls changed i.e. the water pump seal, upper radiator hoses, thermostat gasket.

GoodfellaFD3S 06-29-03 07:07 AM


Originally posted by westfield32
LOL thanks man - i have so many damn questionsfor Lance it is crazy...

maybe you can answer my question about the turbo's.

I gotta ask him about the compression, whether a near gearbox was added with the new engine and clutch. If it wasn't changed, i am going to have to simply go by his word and take it that it is in good condition with no 5th gear syncro problems...

Would new turbo's have been added if the engine was replaced? If not, i will have to ask if they have been rebuilt and or if they have any leaks.

Gotta ask if it has a power fc, if the new engine has had minor recalls changed i.e. the water pump seal, upper radiator hoses, thermostat gasket.

The tranny might be rebuilt, almost definitely not new. The FD gearboxes are pretty tough until you're pushing crazy power. Also, with that mileage those very well could be the original turbos. They tend to last much longer then the motors if properly taken care of. If RP checked over it, the car *should* be in good shape.

westfield32 06-29-03 07:11 AM


If RP checked over it, the car *should* be in good shape.
Yup RP did everything - installed the new clutch, motor and all checks.

I think i will call them and ask them questions about the car that i just mentioned, without telling Lance - they may tell me some things that he, as a dealer would happen to forget to mention;)

GoodfellaFD3S 06-29-03 07:40 AM


Originally posted by westfield32
Yup RP did everything - installed the new clutch, motor and all checks.

I think i will call them and ask them questions about the car that i just mentioned, without telling Lance - they may tell me some things that he, as a dealer would happen to forget to mention;)

Sure. Call Chris at 972 530 3335, if memory serves. the number is on www.rx7.com . Tell him Rich Farrell says "Hi" from Baghdad :). I'm sure he'll be upfront with you.

westfield32 06-29-03 07:46 AM

sure no problem.

do you know how long you are going to be there for?

major respect to you guys.:bowdown: used this on anyone? :ar:

GoodfellaFD3S 06-29-03 07:50 AM


Originally posted by westfield32
sure no problem.

do you know how long you are going to be there for?

major respect to you guys.:bowdown: used this on anyone? :ar:

I am out of this Godforsaken country on or about August 1st.

Gladly, I haven't killed anyone while out here. I've been in a few tight spots though. Thanks for the compliment :).


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