Oil pan sealing. Stripped bolt holes
I'm at the point in my build that I'm installing the oil pan. I have a brand new Mazda oil pan and a Garfinkle oil pan brace I'm installing. I made my first attempt tonight, and I made the mistake of not cleaning out the bolt holes with a tap first and ended up stripping a few of the bolt holes (good thing I didn't crack the housings). I'm going to try to put a helicoil in those holes. What are the bolt sizes that they use? Is it a M6x1.00? I'm thinking about also using a Moroso stud kit instead of the bolts included in the Garfinkle brace kit.
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Due to the expermiental nature of most of my engines, i've taken it apart eleven, yes eleven times. over the course i've cross threaded a few myself. what i have done is drilled and tapped the hole. use a M8x1.25 bolt to replace the little guy, and i've not had any issues. just make sure you don't drill too far down or you'll hit the coolant passage.
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Yes, M6x1.0
I ended up using a few helicoils in the front cover on my new engine. Most of the holes were already stripped when I received the engine. Helicoils are generally stronger than the original threads anyway. |
Originally Posted by afterburn27
(Post 8308169)
Helicoils are generally stronger than the original threads anyway.
I didn't realize this was such a common issue, I didn't have any issues installing my excessive pan. Are you guys torquing the bolts to spec or just giving it the ole good-n-tight treatment? torque spec on those bolts is not very much at all. |
I beleive torque spec is 6 ft-lbs, basically a hand tighten not even a wrench tighten.
Spec is M6*1. I had seen somewhere M6*1.5 but using my caliper 5.98mm and using the thread gauge it is 1.0. |
Originally Posted by JHew84
(Post 8308835)
I didn't realize this was such a common issue, I didn't have any issues installing my excessive pan. Are you guys torquing the bolts to spec or just giving it the ole good-n-tight treatment? torque spec on those bolts is not very much at all.
I just went ahead and helicoiled every oil pan hole in the front cover because none of the threads looked healthy. The threads in my brand new housings were great! :) |
M6 x 1.0
This is the reason we supply a stud kit and nuts with our brace instead of bolts. |
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Is this possible with the motor in the car? |
Originally Posted by silverTRD
(Post 11903121)
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Is this possible with the motor in the car? I recommend getting a tap to chase every single hole and ensure they are clean. I would then install studs in every single one, I even chased and put studs in the engine mounts. I used import grey RTV for the gasket from right stuff. |
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