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Old Jun 6, 2002 | 04:39 AM
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non-seq conversion (a quick question)

for all those who have done the non-seq conversion, on the part where the hardlines (vaccume lines comming from the precontroller and wastegate) go to the solonoids under the pressure chamber, did you disconnect all 4 of them or only the 2 for the precontroller (on the precontroller solonoid)? I have read 2 different how to's and both have different stuff.

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Old Jun 6, 2002 | 06:44 AM
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Originally posted by Dont_Be_A_Rikki
well it really depends on the ecu you are running. guys w/PFC's cap the wastegate line(to the right) and swap the 2 black connectors for the solenoids. and guys that run pretty much anything else cap the precontrol lines(left) and swap the black connectors. so PFC use's precontrol to control boost & anything else use's wastegate to control boost. hope this helps.


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Ryan---Hurry up and get a Damn PFC man! No more 50 million vacuum hoses with non-sequential!
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Old Jun 6, 2002 | 07:30 AM
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Originally posted by Dont_Be_A_Rikki
Well I have the PMS and I run non-seq and it works great . but as soon as I get the cash for a pfc I am on it.
as you guys know 3/10 of a second and gained 4mph in the 1/4 not bad for a cheap $1.00 mod...
$1.00!!! How long this take you? Now I'm wondering what I'm waiting for?

Where'd you get your info to do this? A thread on this forum? You remember where it was at? Post it!!! Holy crap...$1.00
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Old Jun 6, 2002 | 07:51 AM
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oh yeah it took about 30 minutes
Ryan,

thanks for the Info. I'm sending my girlfriend across the internet to give you a kiss...
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Old Jun 6, 2002 | 11:25 PM
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Originally posted by Dont_Be_A_Rikki
well it really depends on the ecu you are running. guys w/PFC's cap the wastegate line(to the right) and swap the 2 black connectors for the solenoids. and guys that run pretty much anything else cap the precontrol lines(left) and swap the black connectors. so PFC use's precontrol to control boost & anything else use's wastegate to control boost. hope this helps.


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hmmm, ok i must be getting stupid or something cuz i am still a little fuzzy. for the 2 black connectors, they are the solenoid electric connectors right? Also, no matter what ecu i use, im suppose to swap the black connectors right?

also, for the PowerFc, the precontroller signal controls boost via the eletrical connection to the solonoid which is hooked up to the wastegate vaccum line (the lines comming from the wastegate actuator) and everything else uses the wastegate signal via the eletrical connection to the solonoid which is hooked up to wastegate vaccum line (the lines comming from the wastegate actuator) right?
This is kinda confusing and I'll try to draw a pic later to make it look better, in any case, you disconnect the precontrol vaccum lines right cuz thats gonna be disconnected anyways right.

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Old Jun 6, 2002 | 11:53 PM
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Correct. While leaning over the engine from the nose, the pre-control solenoid is on the LEFT. Carefully snap off the connector, pull the two hoses underneath, and plug them both tightly. Pre-spool of the secondary turbo is now dead. The RIGHT green actuator(wastegate control) vacuum lines remain connected. The controversy erupts when (if you are running stock twins), do you swap the female harness plugs on those actuators.

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Old Jun 7, 2002 | 01:21 AM
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ok here is what i came up with, i know its a crappy photo but there is only so big of a pic u can post on this server.

non1 pic is of a stock system

non2 pic is of a stock system that has been converted to non-seq.

non3 pic is of a Power FC ecu system that has been converted to non-seq.

is this some what right?

KEY:
the red lines are what is disconnected and/or capped

the blue lines are what is connected

the yellow lines/arrows are so that u can see what im pointing to, they are the same as the black lines/arrows





BTW: attached is the non1 pic is of a stock system.

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Old Jun 7, 2002 | 01:22 AM
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here is non2 pic is of a stock system that has been converted to non-seq.
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Old Jun 7, 2002 | 01:23 AM
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here is non3 pic is of a Power FC ecu system that has been converted to non-seq.
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Old Jun 7, 2002 | 08:27 PM
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so PFC =

precontrol vaccum lines = connected
wastegate vaccum lines = plugged

precontrol elec. connector = disconnected
wastegate elec connector = connected to precontrol connector

?
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Old Jun 7, 2002 | 08:40 PM
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Now this is my ? Well I have the power fc . I took all the solenoids out .and I want to use a manual boost controller how do I connect it ?
That will be the shiet if some one can help me ?
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Old Jun 7, 2002 | 09:59 PM
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Originally posted by to_slow
Now this is my ? Well I have the power fc . I took all the solenoids out .and I want to use a manual boost controller how do I connect it ?
That will be the shiet if some one can help me ?
Thanks
i would think all you would have to do is to take out all the solenoids and just put the manual bleed valve between the turbo and the wastegate. but im not sure
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Old Jun 7, 2002 | 10:01 PM
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Originally posted by BlackR1
so PFC =

precontrol vaccum lines = connected
wastegate vaccum lines = plugged

precontrol elec. connector = disconnected
wastegate elec connector = connected to precontrol connector

?
i think its suppose to go
precontrol vaccum lines = plugged
wastegate vaccum lines = connected

precontrol elec. connector = connected to wastegate solenoid
wastegate elec connector = disconnected



Help rikki, tell us whats what
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Old Jun 7, 2002 | 10:21 PM
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Okay, I'm about to do it!

I think I've got all the info that I may need, and did a lot of praying too!

I'll post up tonight(or morning for you guys in the states) my results!

Wish me luck!!!
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Old Jun 7, 2002 | 11:07 PM
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thanks for the tips DontbeaRikki

Im ready to go BB IHI Single Turbo now The car runs a lot richer when running non-sequential huh? My plugs were already a little fouled, and i think me getting boost crazy last night in the canyons took em out for good.

Gotta alter my driving style due to the narrower powerband...gonna lead a canyon run tomorrow, and i feel safer running non-seq...no more shift in power mid gear in a turn

Anyone know how much those block off plates are offhand?
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Old Jun 8, 2002 | 01:05 AM
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