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$lacker 07-07-11 03:05 PM

No more door slamming?
 
Like anyone with healthy rubber seals around their doors, I find that if everything else is closed, I have to slam my door to close it completely
If a window is down, or the hatch is open, or another door is open, everything closes easily because the air has a way to escape
Is there a control module out there that you can hook to your power window switch and your door sensors that will crack the window a quarter inch when you open the door, then close the window completely once the door is shut again? Newer expensive cars do this automatically in many cases, but I've never heard of an aftermarket solution for the FD :scratch:

CYD 07-07-11 04:59 PM

Sounds like a sensor to monitor whether a door is ajar/open (most cars have this) and a programmable setting on the window switch.

adam c 07-07-11 06:02 PM

Is it really that much of a problem to close the door a little harder. I don't slam mine, but it do close it firmly all the way, without letting go of the door.

mrb63083 07-07-11 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by adam c (Post 10696268)
I don't slam mine, but it do close it firmly all the way, without letting go of the door.

Me too. :icon_tup:

$lacker 07-07-11 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by adam c (Post 10696268)
Is it really that much of a problem to close the door a little harder. I don't slam mine, but it do close it firmly all the way, without letting go of the door.

Is there anyone here that only makes changes when there's a big problem?

That said, I find there to be a large difference in force necessary to close the door with the window down relative to when the window is fully closed, and I figured it would be a fairly simple circuit required to remedy the situation. I'm sure someone could whip out circuit boards for $5 each and sell them for $40/50. Just wondering if it had been done by anyone. If not, no big deal, I don't drive the car that often anyway

ILoveJDM 07-07-11 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by $lacker (Post 10696020)
Newer expensive cars do this automatically in many cases,


i thought this was so your fingers dont get caught in the window.

MR_Rick 07-07-11 08:56 PM

I have to do the same thing. I hate when I have to close the hatch when the doors are close. I usually leave a door open before I close the hatch to make it easier on me.

twinsinside 07-07-11 09:06 PM

This and how bad my windows fog up in the rain are two things that do kind of annoy me.

I've gotten into the habit of just barely tapping the window switch before getting out, which solves the problem. Don't even really think about it anymore it's kinda automatic.

pito13b 07-07-11 09:23 PM

Sunroof cars are a bit easier, or maybe its just in my head.

GodSquadMandrake 07-08-11 12:07 AM

You could do it with a momentary relay built into the door circuit (switch that turns on dome light when door is open).
Super easy done with parts from radioshack.
http://www.the12volt.com/relays/page5.asp#ctm

That would roll down the window when the door is opened. To roll up the window when the door is closed I would personally prefer to use another momentary relay on the lock circuit, so when you lock the door the window rolls up. That would be most easily accomplished with an aftermarket alarm system. There's ways you could do it without having an alarm system too. If you didn't want to do the alarm thing use the wiring diagram from the above page titled "Latched On/Off Output Using a Single Momentary Pulse"

ZE Power MX6 07-08-11 12:29 AM


Originally Posted by MR_Rick (Post 10696478)
I have to do the same thing. I hate when I have to close the hatch when the doors are close. I usually leave a door open before I close the hatch to make it easier on me.

I just lower the hatch all the way down, then push it down right at the center where the lock mechanism is, works pretty well and I never have to slam it to close, kinda like how to close the hood without slamming it.

As far as the door, only my driver side does that, passenger side close easily with a gentle push, but I have to slam the driver side door. I think it is because of the rubber seal, part of it is lose and it get caught between the door and the interior plastic preventing the door from closing all the way. As far as letting air out, I think air escape from the sunroof as I can see the sunroof being lift up slighty when I close my door.

petros_rx7 07-30-11 05:33 AM

If someone want to build an automatic system for door window like bmw coupe you have to attach in the tringle of the mirror ,inside the car , a read sensor who will inform the electronic circuit when the window is open so when you open the door they do nothing because is allready open and an other option when the window is closed then with a relay send voltage about 1 sec to open the window and when you close the door and the light switch off with second relay reverse the pollarirty and close the window until the read sensor send trigger to the electronic circuit so you are sure that window closed.
The after market alarm system use automatic circuit braker fuse so when the window closed and from the fuse pass more current then the fuse brake the circuit and stop but some times this didnt work well.

cptpain 07-30-11 12:54 PM

you have to be pretty lazy to want to have the same feature most new cars have to prevent slamming your door when all you have to do is hold the door by the handle and give it a firm push.

MR_Rick 07-30-11 01:36 PM

For those having this issue, what year is your car? I was noticing that there are 2 part numbers for the relief valve or as the part manual calls it, chamber extractor. I was wondering if there later one is better.

Mine was so bad that I was afraid I was going to break the window when closing the door. When I made a hole for my new gauges sensor wiring it helped with this issue. I want to take a look at the relief valve behind the rear bumper and see if I can make it work better...if it is even working because my hatch still a bitch to close. At least I can do it with the door close now.

MR_Rick 07-30-11 02:58 PM

From all my past FD, this one is pretty bad. A lot of people really notice it, even other FD owners.

$lacker 07-30-11 09:49 PM

I get a nice solid thunk, but I need to close it pretty firmly
Not something I'm going to bitch about, but if there were a $40 circuit I could solder in, I'd be all for it

GodSquadMandrake 08-01-11 01:10 AM

What is a relief valve chamber extractor?

MR_Rick 08-01-11 01:51 AM

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It is supposed to let air scape when closing the door or hatch.

Shiryuoss 08-01-11 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by pito13b (Post 10696508)
Sunroof cars are a bit easier, or maybe its just in my head.

it's about the same thing... except you can see the sunroof move because of the air pressure lol :nod:

sip 08-04-11 09:32 AM

Honestly Mike, your worry about the most trivial things.

Just slam the bitch!

TwinCharged RX7 08-04-11 10:10 AM

The newer cars that do this typically don't have a frame around the window. So the glass of the window is actually sealing against the rubber on the car.

The window sliding down a little protects the glass from slamming against the car itself. It is not meant to make the door close easier.

I'm not sure about every car out there, but I've never seen this auto open function on a car that has enclosed frame windows.

If someone actually goes through the trouble of making this type of circuit for there FD, they are wasting time that could be spent on something meaningful. I would think this type of thing would be absolutely last on the priority list.

Sgtblue 08-04-11 11:00 AM

https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/how-close-door-your-fd-964133/

rousu 05-08-18 01:03 AM

A reason for looking for a solution
 
A little rushed to close a balky door, I gave a hefty push to close it.
Unfortunately, I pushed on the metal part of the door.
Result: bent metal and a visual defect. Regret function high. And long lasting.

Now I always try to push on the door handle corner and keep my fingers out of the way.
My vote for this being a worthwhile contribution.

cheers

94 R2 05-08-18 02:52 AM

When I got my car a few months ago, I think it took 3 or 4 tries to finally close the door. :)

You get the hang of it after a while.

BLUE TII 05-08-18 10:30 AM

Yup, I have a fairly low mile R1 and it is really noticeable how much force it takes to close a door if nothing else is open in the car.

Only time it has posed a problem for me is when passengers getting out in the pits and then I get flagged off track for having my door ajar.

I have learned to put my window down a bit when I am kicking people out of my FD and give a glance down the side of the body in the door mirror.

I was also looking at the parts fische at that Dr. side vent behind the rear bumper wondering if that would fix the issue.


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