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My FD3S drift project
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I have my project started. I got -92 FD from Japan, car had done for 90tkm and was in pretty good shape. I have started taking parts out of car and now there's just engine and transmission to take out and then I can get the car to be re-painted.
The car is going to have C-west bodykit, carbon fiber hood, carbon hatch and doors made out of carbon fibre. Mirrors from APR-performance and APR GTC-300 carbon fibre rear wing. Wheels are going to be 19" Buddy Club Racing 2 wheels. Suspension first from Buddy Club but will propably change to Cusco setup during summer. Front brakes from GREX (6-pot with 330mm rotors) and rear brakes new oem rotors and GREX pads. For engine I will have: From GReddy, T78 kit with manifold and external vaste gate, Blow off type R, aluminium radiator + big ic (going to make V-mount from them), GReddy Racing Ti mufler + custom made titanium front pipe, GReddy oil coolers, catch tank and breather tank. Engine managament is going to be handled with Apex Power FC, clutch is going to be Cusco super single and LSD Cusco MZ. I'm looking for 400-450hp from engine and really hoping to get some 100-150kg off from weight. The car is going to be built for drifting, but I'm sure that I will try some grip driving and quarter miles with that also. Here is few pictures of the car. I don't have latest pictures of the car but I will post them when I have the time to take them :) -DriftRX7 |
I dont think i would suggest getting the car painted if your going to drift with the car. Your probably gonna smack the car into a wall within the first few months of drifting it. I would build the car, get the hang of how a single turbo FD works in situations. If after you feel you are ready, by all means go for it.
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Originally Posted by fastcarfreak
I dont think i would suggest getting the car painted if your going to drift with the car. Your probably gonna smack the car into a wall within the first few months of drifting it. I would build the car, get the hang of how a single turbo FD works in situations. If after you feel you are ready, by all means go for it.
Adam However, that car is going to work as a demo car for our company, so it would be taken for fairs etc. And full paint job is somewhere between 1500-2000$ so it is quite reasonable if you think for the costs for this whole project. -DriftRX7 |
Originally Posted by DriftRX7
Yeah, good point :)
However, that car is going to work as a demo car for our company, so it would be taken for fairs etc. And full paint job is somewhere between 1500-2000$ so it is quite reasonable if you think for the costs for this whole project. -DriftRX7 |
sweet, keep us posted.
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where r u getting a paint job for that much? door jams and engine bay?
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i hope you got a lot of funding lol, this is gonna be very expensive but from the list you made its going to be very high class too
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Originally Posted by onefast3gen
where r u getting a paint job for that much? door jams and engine bay?
The whole car will be painted, inside out. Car will propably be honda racing white with just the hood with visible carbon. All other carbon parts will be painted to body color. -DriftRX7 |
Originally Posted by `sl!mXP
i hope you got a lot of funding lol, this is gonna be very expensive but from the list you made its going to be very high class too
And I most certainly will keep you up to date with this project :) -DriftRX7 |
i dont know about a t78 for drifting i would go with something a little smaller.
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or you could go with this.... it will have better spool and still produce the power....
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And since you are right near me, you could just pick it up;)
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I think you have some good ideas but here is my input.
If the car is for marketing purposes, you want it to be different right? Then there's a couple of things you should consider rethinking: Bodykit: The CWEST is a very common kit borderlining played out. I think the worst part about it is that there is another Drift Rx-7 running this kit too: https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...id=95012&stc=1 Color: I also don't think white is the best color for this car if it's for marketing. There are TWO white Rx-7 Drift Cars. This one, I forget the owner's name, he used to have a red one til he slammed it into a wall: http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...0_104_full.jpg and probably the most Famous Rx-7 Drifter, Apex'i's: https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...id=95011&stc=1 Lastly, I agree that a T-78 may be a little big for this application. You may want something with quicker spool. Anyhow, Good luck with everything. Can't wait to see this car in the future. |
/\ doing it with a stock body would be different...
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i agree you want something that will spool alot quicker, greddy TD-06 or something along those lines. good luck!
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:bigthumb:
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good luck with it. :)
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Haha, that's like my project, but mine's a bit less...financially supported. Good luck with the project!
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yes, smaller turbo definately, obviously the most important thing is to get your suspension worked out.
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Originally Posted by SiKoPaThX
I think you have some good ideas but here is my input.
If the car is for marketing purposes, you want it to be different right? Then there's a couple of things you should consider rethinking: Bodykit: The CWEST is a very common kit borderlining played out. I think the worst part about it is that there is another Drift Rx-7 running this kit too: Color: I also don't think white is the best color for this car if it's for marketing. There are TWO white Rx-7 Drift Cars. http://www.c-west.co.jp/aero/fd3s/img/fb_main4.jpg And for the color, the white is only color for the drift car ;) And this side of the world there aren't many sevens and there aren't any D1-like drift cars, so I choose to go either way, the car should be something that crowds have never seen before. -DriftRX7 |
Originally Posted by HEns
yes, smaller turbo definately, obviously the most important thing is to get your suspension worked out.
But I believe that I start with T78 and if it isn't good for my use I'll "downgrade" it to some smaller one. And thank you for you all for the chears, I'll keep you notified for the changes in project :) -DriftRX7 |
Good luck and keep us updated.
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Driftin is no contest with a V-8 powered car... maybe thats why you guys like it, its difficult to work with an engine with no torque.... I am being serious, no bashing. i Have a 94 toyota pickup with a Ls1 in it, sportin FD stock wheels in the back ;) Even tho its a truck and it sits 4ft taller than a car and has body roll like a MOFO... I can powerslide ( i hate using "drift" seems to be played out already) that truck whereever i want, whenever i want, however i want.
If i didnt care about my Ls1/FD i'd take it out to the driftin course or whatever. probably show everyone up too. Racing fourwheelers on the ice teaches you a lot and its the same shit as "drifting", except your in a car. Good luck with the car, replace all those rear end bushings! :D |
The car is going to have C-west bodykit, carbon fiber hood,
these are ok mods if the carbon hood has mighty big vents for shits and giggles carbon hatch and doors made out of carbon fibre. why the hell would you do this? stock is fairly light as is and your probally gonna ruin it the first time you slam in to something unless you are a pro, then again the pros hit shit too Mirrors from APR-performance and APR GTC-300 carbon fibre rear wing. i guess these mods are ok if you like the look Wheels are going to be 19" Buddy Club Racing 2 wheels. bwahahahahahaha you gotta be kidding me! Suspension first from Buddy Club but will propably change to Cusco setup during summer. Front brakes from GREX (6-pot with 330mm rotors) and rear brakes new oem rotors and GREX pads. these mods seem to be fine For engine I will have: From GReddy, T78 kit with manifold and external vaste gate WTF, that turbo is way to big! Blow off type R i guess so, if you like the sound aluminium radiator + big ic (going to make V-mount from them) this seems like it should already be mandatory GReddy Racing Ti mufler + custom made titanium front pipe, GReddy oil coolers, catch tank and breather tank. Engine managament is going to be handled with Apex Power FC, these mods seem resonable clutch is going to be Cusco super single and LSD Cusco MZ. i dont have any experience with this clutch or lsd so i cant comment on them but they seem fine I'm looking for 400-450hp from engine and really hoping to get some 100-150kg off from weight. The car is going to be built for drifting, but I'm sure that I will try some grip driving and quarter miles with that also. either build it for one or the other or your gonna end up with something 1/2 ass |
Originally Posted by skunks
these are ok mods if the carbon hood has mighty big vents for shits and giggles
Originally Posted by skunks
why the hell would you do this? stock is fairly light as is and your probally gonna ruin it the first time you slam in to something unless you are a pro, then again the pros hit shit too
Main thing is that when we sell something, it will be nice to have those parts on our demo cars too. We are lucky enough to have tracks with wide safety areas so I'll hope not to chrash that on to anything hard. And anyhow if something is going to brake, it'll always can be fixed too :D
Originally Posted by skunks
bwahahahahahaha you gotta be kidding me!
Originally Posted by skunks
WTF, that turbo is way to big!
Originally Posted by skunks
either build it for one or the other or your gonna end up with something 1/2 ass
You had really good opinions, but when the car is built for marketing purposes as well as for driving, there will always be some compromises. -DriftRX7 |
Good Questions and replies . But i think the turbo is abit to big . Sure you may be about to play with trim and A/R . You can only go so far . Drifting has more a torque and peaky power requirement . I would rather go up a size on the turbo is it is too small than go down a size ..hehe.. kinda like breasts yeah :D
All in all , this is your BBQ and i am just here the burgers . Remember to give us update on the progress ... may be some drift vids or pics :burnout::D ... |
Originally Posted by DriftRX7
I have couple of dyno sheets from Trust with FD3S and T78 and even T88. Those cars are like 400hp from engine and that curve seems to be very subtle.
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From what I gather, drifting is all about destroying tires. You'll be buying TONS of tires. For this reason, I would really recommend AGAINST using 19" wheels. The tires are much more expensive, and there aren't many quality tires made in 19" diameter.
Look into the tire size that you want to be using (base this both on price and performance, this will vary depending on your location), and choose your wheel size based on that. For drifting, wide wheels seem to be the thing. I don't understand the physics well enough to explain it, but if your tires are 9" wide at the widest point, you want wheels that are slightly wider. It's got to do with the deflection of the sidewalls (or lack thereof due to the super wide wheels). Here's a couple photos that show what I'm speaking about. Both of these guys have driven in the D1 USA competitions. http://www.willraceforfood.com/pages/s14_profile.htm http://www.driftday.com/blue_86front.jpg From what I understand, the extra wide wheels are not just a style thing. Try it and you should be able to feel the difference. -s- |
Another thing; for the instant throttle response and huge amount of torque you need, I would seriously look into a V8 conversion.
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awesome man, keep us posted
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damn..how do u guys get so much money for all the parts?
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sounds like a wish list of parts and bunch of big name pieces- no offense- but i'm in the middle of rebuilding my so called "drift" car and i'm already in the hole 10's of thousands...going through different suspension setups like crazy and tires- the t78 is much more of a topend turbo, great for drag- useless for drift- you're sacrificing too much lag, even with good management you're really not using the turbo to it's potential as you would a smaller turbo- went with turbonetics T62-1 custom setup for midrange power and that seems to work very well. before you start messing with the aesthetics, deal with your engine first and get it tuned in to where it should be. There's a lot great forums out there like drifting.com and others that will give you some great reading material. ;) I've drift/drag...abused the crap out of my car and I'm still learning...:) but then again...we're all still learning about our car! Good luck!
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Thanks again for your comments. The part list isn't a wish list, it has been agreed with our supliers that those are roughly the parts to be used.
I'm seriously concidering to take a smaller turbo, but I might test that one and then change to smaller if it won't work. And for the wheels I know the price for tyres pretty well since I'm selling them allready. The price for market value isn't too bad with those. But as I said, I might concider using smaller wheels on the track and those wheels only in shows and on the street. Drifting.com does have some good persons there, but roughly 50% there doesn't have car or drivers licence and most of the other 50% haven't been drifting EVER. If you have some minor wheelspin on a steer corner, it just won't make a drifter out of you! I really do understand that some of you think me as a dreamer, but because the car should be "suprise" on it's first show, I cannot give you any details. But that day will come too, sooner or later ;) -DriftRX7 |
prove us wrong!! :D
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Here is a little update. I bought new appartment in the end of january, so this car project have proceeded bit slowly. But now the removal is done and I can get focused to this project again.
How ever some progress have happened. The car is almost ready for taking of the engine and transmission and then I can get it painted and start assembling new parts. Bodykit should also be here in start of april. I've got those wheels this week and tested them under the car. They will fit perfect and they really are one of the sweetest wheels I have seen :D Surprise for me is that they aren't so heavy that could be expected. Front wheels (19*9") weights some 10kg and rear wheels (19*10") weights some 11kg. Here is some pictures of current stage. -DriftRX7 |
Why on earth would you build a drift car with 19's?!
-Alex |
Originally Posted by TT_Rex_7
Why on earth would you build a drift car with 19's?!
-DriftRX7 BTW, the real answer founds already from this thread ;) |
Originally Posted by DriftRX7
Because of the "bling" factor :D
-DriftRX7 BTW, the real answer founds already from this thread ;) -Alex Edit: Rice isn't quite the word, more like it just looks weird and out of place. |
Your car looks like a car in a recent DSport issue.. the last pic in the first post looks strangly thamiliar..
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All you guys that think the T78 is dead on the low end should talk to Vosko. At very low boost (12-14psi) he could hardly control his car at drift events. MORE than enough low end power.
How often do you see cars "drifting" at sub-4K rpms? When does the T78 really light up? You guys seem to be forgetting about the usefulness of the RPMs.. A T78 is fine. As is a TO4R.. Again - ask Vosko and maybe even watch some of his videos. Screw the little turbos that spool at 2K. Get a big one and rev the car like it's meant to rev.. |
Originally Posted by jdhuegel1
All you guys that think the T78 is dead on the low end should talk to Vosko. At very low boost (12-14psi) he could hardly control his car at drift events. MORE than enough low end power.
How often do you see cars "drifting" at sub-4K rpms? When does the T78 really light up? You guys seem to be forgetting about the usefulness of the RPMs.. A T78 is fine. As is a TO4R.. Again - ask Vosko and maybe even watch some of his videos. Screw the little turbos that spool at 2K. Get a big one and rev the car like it's meant to rev.. -DriftRX7 |
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