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oo7arkman 09-11-09 06:27 PM

My custom vmount setup
 
Here is my for converting my Koyo radiator and Greddy FMIC into a vmount configuration. If you feel I have left anything out or I should have done something another way feel free to comment.

First I placed the car solidly on jack stands making sure to loosen front rim lugs prior to lifting off the ground. Next follow FSM on removing front bumper, radiator, and any other factory components that are in the way. Remove Greddy FMIC referencing the Greddy instructions that may be found on their website.


http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r...arstripped.jpg



Next I began by fabricating the brackets that would be needed to mount the radiator. I used steel and aluminum that I purchased from the local Lowes. I began with the lower mounts (front of car) utilizing the stock radiator upper mount locations. I reused the lower radiator mounts provided by Greddy in the FMIC kit to hold the bottom posts of the radiator. I did re-bend them so that they fit more appropriately. Here are a few shots of the brackets. **Note: I did cover both sides of the radiator with cardboard to help it from being damaged during the building process.


http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r...cketfront3.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r...cketfront4.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r...acketfront.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r...frontmount.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r...cketfront2.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r...etfinished.jpg

All finished

I then moved onto the upper radiator brackets. I started by drilling a few new holes in the upper side sections of the radiator so that the brackets could be appropriately mounted allowing the radiator to lie down a bit further. Then I simply measured out for my brackets.

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r...adtopwhole.jpg
Of coarse the new hole did not stay that rough. It was later smoothed off nicely.

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r...adbracket2.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r...radbracket.jpg



Both upper and lower brackets were made out of steel and were manipulated by using vice-grips, a small sledge hammer, vice, and anvil. Between each bracket and where it mounts to the car are buffered by rubber washers to help with vibrations.



Once I was happy with how the radiator sat I began planning out the hoses so that they would flow freely and not come in contact with anything in the engine bay. The input hose will need to be reangled to allow for better flow. I also decided how large I wanted the new end tank to be. After all that was done I removed it, painted the brackets and began cutting up the radiator. After it was all cut, I measured aluminum and cut pieces for the new end tank, separator, and block off plates for the original output hose.

**IMPORTANT: For the radiator to function properly you will need to weld a small plate on the inside of the radiator between the two upper end tanks. This will force the fluid down through the radiator and then back up and out the other side.



http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r...ratorplate.jpg

oo7arkman 09-11-09 06:29 PM

Here is the radiator after it is all welded up. I even managed to save the original Koyo logo and reuse it!!


http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r...inishedtop.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r...ishedfront.jpg



After the radiator was reinstalled I began to mock up the intercooler brackets. After spending far too long deciding how to go about it I decided to flip the intercooler upside down, and create brackets to mount the new bottom of the intercooler right next to the upper radiator mounts. The upper portion of the intercooler will be help stable and given support with the soon-to-be connected intercooler piping. The inlet and outlets of the intercooler were cut off to more appropriately orient them so that it would allow for smooth airflow. I did seek the advice of a few boost gooroos here on the forum about the possible repercussions on having a 3.5” inlet and a 3” outlet and was assured it would make no difference or only one that would be negligible.



http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r...cbrackets1.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r...cbrackets2.jpg



Here it all is reinstalled (minus the IC piping).

Notice that I also had to relocate the AST. Maybe I will delete it eventually...



http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r...ishedfront.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r...rfinished2.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r...adnobumper.jpg
Reinstalled with high dense foam placed between radiator and intercooler.

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r...rontbumper.jpg
Front bumper reinstalled and ducting placed on both sides.

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r...ntnopiping.jpg


All finished up with block off plate in the front.

HalifaxFD 09-11-09 06:33 PM

Nice write up, lots of useful info.

oo7arkman 09-11-09 06:37 PM

While waiting on my welder (I really wish I new how to weld and had access to a TIG...) I was able to do a few other small projects.

1) polished turbine housing
2) removed, cleaned and painted water pump housing and bracket black
3) removed, cleaned and painted altranator
4) Painted all rims flat black
5) Relocated fuel filter
6) Disassembled and painted in the inside housing of my turn signals black.

GoodfellaFD3S 09-11-09 10:15 PM

Everything is lookin' good....... how do you plan to drain the radiator with the drain on the topside? Remove the lower rad hose?

borx7 09-11-09 10:30 PM

Is it possible to perform this mod on a tripple pass koyo rad?

TitaniumCranium 09-12-09 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by borx7
Is it possible to perform this mod on a tripple pass koyo rad?

Sure, as long as you end up with an un-restricted lower end tank, and a divided upper end tank (preferably in the middle)

Mahjik 09-12-09 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S (Post 9490004)
Everything is lookin' good....... how do you plan to drain the radiator with the drain on the topside? Remove the lower rad hose?

LMAO! That's the same thing I was going to ask. ;)

oo7arkman 09-12-09 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S (Post 9490004)
Everything is lookin' good....... how do you plan to drain the radiator with the drain on the topside? Remove the lower rad hose?

yeah, I knew someone was going to say something about that. Right now I plan to do just exactly what you said actually and just remove the hose that runs from the bottom of the radiator to the ast. That may not be ideal, but it will allow the radiator to drain completely. Next time I drain the fluid I plan on having a better solution.

muibubbles 11-05-09 10:37 PM

sweet fab job! by anychance do you know if you can buy a radiator already set up for a vmount? or do you have to get them cut/welded?

widebodyseven 11-06-09 12:21 AM

^^^ Rx7store sells a radiator setup for v-mount i think its arround $700.

oo7arkman 11-06-09 04:53 PM

^^Bingo. I already had my KOYO so I had my father-in-law weld it for me after I cut it up and told him what I would like. If you do not already have an aftermarket radiator I would just buy one from Jason. Really, you can purchase the whole kit which is basically identical to what I have done here. Mine is just welded up a bit differently and my IC flipped to better suit me.

slow_silvia 11-07-09 02:09 PM

Is there any where that sells a full setup that resembles that as a kit?

ProjectD 11-07-09 07:17 PM

Looks great Noah! How is she running these days?

Jesus loves rotaries 11-08-09 05:20 AM

funny, I was planning on doing the EXACT same thing with my greddy FMIC when I got back to FL, I was going to do the same thing you did.

oo7arkman 11-08-09 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by ProjectD (Post 9611783)
Looks great Noah! How is she running these days?

What is up Cyan!! She is running well, I just cannot wait for a few more months when I am gonna order my new rims/tires and I can actually drive the car a lil harder...

How is your new build going? I will be waiting for a ride in your corrupted FD when it is finished btw...


Originally Posted by Jesus loves rotaries (Post 9612377)
funny, I was planning on doing the EXACT same thing with my greddy FMIC when I got back to FL, I was going to do the same thing you did.

It is very well worth it... My intake and water temps are great. I really even notice my intake temps dropping off just as fast, if not FASTER than with just the fmic. Maybe it was the hot air trapped between the rad and IC???? I dunno, just happy it is working very, very well.


Originally Posted by slow_silvia (Post 9611374)
Is there any where that sells a full setup that resembles that as a kit?

Yes, as mentioned above here you go. It is a pretty good deal if you do not already have any of these components. Since I already had both and I really enjoy doing projects like this myself, I used those and just built my own.

ProjectD 11-08-09 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by oo7arkman (Post 9613243)
What is up Cyan!! She is running well, I just cannot wait for a few more months when I am gonna order my new rims/tires and I can actually drive the car a lil harder...

How is your new build going? I will be waiting for a ride in your corrupted FD when it is finished btw...

My bastard build is coming along nice and slow :(. I'll definately take you for a spin when it's back on the road. Then we can go around and terrorize Tulsa lol :D

ablake211 11-08-09 10:31 PM

Looks really nice. Thanks for the writeup!

oo7arkman 11-10-09 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by ProjectD (Post 9613285)
My bastard build is coming along nice and slow :(. I'll definately take you for a spin when it's back on the road. Then we can go around and terrorize Tulsa lol :D

Sounds great!! Yeah I need a few ppl to go cruize with. My poor FD is a bit neglected. I do not get to drive it much, though when I do I seem to piss off or scare half the ppl in the parking garage at work... Ah well...

KKMpunkrock2011 11-11-09 01:12 AM


Originally Posted by oo7arkman (Post 9613243)
It is very well worth it... My intake and water temps are great. I really even notice my intake temps dropping off just as fast, if not FASTER than with just the fmic. Maybe it was the hot air trapped between the rad and IC???? I dunno, just happy it is working very, very well.

Thanks for the info and write up! I too have been contemplating doing something like this with my Greddy FMIC and koyo rad.

s1mpsons 12-02-09 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by oo7arkman (Post 9489565)
Once I was happy with how the radiator sat I began planning out the hoses so that they would flow freely and not come in contact with anything in the engine bay. The input hose will need to be reangled to allow for better flow. I also decided how large I wanted the new end tank to be. After all that was done I removed it, painted the brackets and began cutting up the radiator. After it was all cut, I measured aluminum and cut pieces for the new end tank, separator, and block off plates for the original output hose.

**IMPORTANT: For the radiator to function properly you will need to weld a small plate on the inside of the radiator between the two upper end tanks. This will force the fluid down through the radiator and then back up and out the other side.



http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r...ratorplate.jpg

Why does this step need to be so complicated with lots of welding, modifying endtanks, etc? I can't just flip the rad, fab some brackets and be done with it?

JamesVaughn3rd 12-04-09 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by s1mpsons (Post 9654339)
Why does this step need to be so complicated with lots of welding, modifying endtanks, etc? I can't just flip the rad, fab some brackets and be done with it?

Wouldn't you then have to run a real long radiator hose to get to the end at the bottom front? This way you just run two short hoses.

So with this setup I assume you're eliminating the A/C or are you just moving it? I have a 3 row Greddy intercooler in my Vmount setup, mine has a larger angle (Intercooler is more horizontal) and I'm bending the A/C condensor and black A/C tube thing down and am making brackets for them.

s1mpsons 12-04-09 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by JamesVaughn3rd (Post 9658621)
Wouldn't you then have to run a real long radiator hose to get to the end at the bottom front? This way you just run two short hoses.

So with this setup I assume you're eliminating the A/C or are you just moving it? I have a 3 row Greddy intercooler in my Vmount setup, mine has a larger angle (Intercooler is more horizontal) and I'm bending the A/C condensor and black A/C tube thing down and am making brackets for them.

Def would need long ass hoses. Other than all that, is there a physical reason the system won't cool properly without re-doing the rad endtank design?

XLR8 12-04-09 07:24 PM

Nice fab work!

danewbern 12-22-09 10:29 AM

I'm working on a similar setup. is there a better matriel to fab the brackets from? Aluminum or something better?


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