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Va Rx-7 Nov 6, 2007 07:11 PM

Major Problems
 
Last night I was driving my Fd and the second turbo wouldn't kick in. When was was on the highway I would push it little bit and the RPM would be at 5,000 and I would hit the gas and it wouldn't go it felt like the gas pedal was pushing my foot off and the check engine light flashed and went away. I dont know if it is a fuel cut.. But I did smell under the hood. The second turbo will not spool at all and I get full boost out of the primary


HELP

dgeesaman Nov 6, 2007 09:27 PM

Pull the ECU codes.

Dave

1QWIK7 Nov 6, 2007 09:46 PM

Umm pull ecu code?

That will lead you in the right direction.

Va Rx-7 Nov 7, 2007 06:06 PM

Ecu
 
HOW do i pull the code?? I know u have to stick a wire in the dia. box and turn the but in which hole do I stick it in?

gbomb91 Nov 7, 2007 06:11 PM

not usre exactly but it's easy to find here. also do a search on how to read what code it is. There will be a series of flashes, long and short and you then can determine what the problem is. again do a search it's not hard to find. good luck

1QWIK7 Nov 7, 2007 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by Va Rx-7 (Post 7490018)
HOW do i pull the code?? I know u have to stick a wire in the dia. box and turn the but in which hole do I stick it in?

Dude, the sticky FAQ threads at the top of this section will help you in anything you need with diagnosing/fixing/learning about the FD.

But ill help you out this time.

Take a paper clip and jump TEN and GND. Then go inside your car, and count the flashes.

LONG flashes = 10
SHORT flashes = 1

Be careful not to mix up each individual code with the repetition of the codes themselves. A code can be like a 40 or something so watch carefully.

RA8225 Nov 7, 2007 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by 1QWIK7 (Post 7490081)
Dude, the sticky FAQ threads at the top of this section will help you in anything you need with diagnosing/fixing/learning about the FD.

But ill help you out this time.

Take a paper clip and jump TEN and GND. Then go inside your car, and count the flashes.

LONG flashes = 10
SHORT flashes = 1

Be careful not to mix up each individual code with the repetition of the codes themselves. A code can be like a 40 or something so watch carefully.

What he said

bryant Nov 7, 2007 06:34 PM

i thought he was stranded on the side of the road or something with that thread title.:pat:

Va Rx-7 Nov 7, 2007 06:36 PM

SO After I jump them Than i turn the key in the ON position than i count how many fast flashes and slow flashes and i total them up and that will be the code?? and when do i stop counting...when the light stops flashing?

sevensix Nov 7, 2007 06:42 PM

calm down your head might explode

1QWIK7 Nov 7, 2007 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by Va Rx-7 (Post 7490134)
SO After I jump them Than i turn the key in the ON position than i count how many fast flashes and slow flashes and i total them up and that will be the code?? and when do i stop counting...when the light stops flashing?

Its tricky.

You might have to cycle the entire thing a couple times to get all the codes down (if you have multiple) because its hard to determine the repetition and each code itself.

And yes you have to put the key to ON.

Just count all the flashes and jot them down, thats the easy step.

When you see a repetition going, you know its starting over again.

Va Rx-7 Nov 8, 2007 06:13 PM

Code 13
 
I think its code 13 But I will attach the video of it just to make sure Let me know what should be my next step
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d2...h_MOV00005.jpg

ObliqueFD Nov 8, 2007 06:59 PM

Yep. Code 13 - Pressure Sensor. It is the little black box on the firewall, located to the left of the brake booster. Check to make sure the hose didn't pop off on the underside and make sure the other end of the hose is connected at the manifold. It's possible the sensor has gone bad. To check the sensor, look at pages F-33 and F-181 in the '93 workshop manual.

1QWIK7 Nov 8, 2007 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by Va Rx-7 (Post 7493624)
I think its code 13 But I will attach the video of it just to make sure Let me know what should be my next step
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d2...h_MOV00005.jpg


Yup, def a code 13. You did the right thing in cycling the code over and over. Cause you have to sure before you start furthering your diagnosing and/or replacing parts.

I never knew the pressure sensor can actually go "bad". Normally the hose just pops off and you put it back with a ziptie. But i think IIRC, 2nd gen people ground their pressure sensors? Im not sure about this but i remember reading something about that back in the day.

OR you can just replace it with another used one, just search the FS section. Its pretty cheap. If its used.

Gadd Nov 8, 2007 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by 1QWIK7 (Post 7493795)
Yup, def a code 13. You did the right thing in cycling the code over and over. Cause you have to sure before you start furthering your diagnosing and/or replacing parts.

I never knew the pressure sensor can actually go "bad". Normally the hose just pops off and you put it back with a ziptie. But i think IIRC, 2nd gen people ground their pressure sensors? Im not sure about this but i remember reading something about that back in the day.

OR you can just replace it with another used one, just search the FS section. Its pretty cheap. If its used.

The MAP sensor can fail but it's unlikely, it's more likely a problem with the the connector or the wiring. First thing I would do is remove the connector at the MAP sensor and clean it with something like corrosionX or WD40 and reconnect. Then reset the ECU.

Paul




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RXtacy Nov 8, 2007 10:26 PM

Oh man im guessing based on the title and the apparent issue you havent had the FD very long lol.

RXtacy Nov 8, 2007 10:30 PM

To be somewhat helpful here is a link to a working map sensor for sale. https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=702461

Va Rx-7 Nov 12, 2007 06:10 PM

Same
 
SO Last night I drove the FD and the check engine light flashed on again and went away...I know I cleared it and checked all the hose that is connected to the sensor and the IM and the hose was still connected.............Replace it????AND i did smell fuel under the hood....Could that be a cause?

bryant Nov 12, 2007 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by ObliqueFD (Post 7493773)
Yep. Code 13 - Pressure Sensor. It is the little black box on the firewall, located to the left of the brake booster. Check to make sure the hose didn't pop off on the underside and make sure the other end of the hose is connected at the manifold. It's possible the sensor has gone bad. To check the sensor, look at pages F-33 and F-181 in the '93 workshop manual.


have you checked it like this^^ gentleman suggested?

:icon_tup:

1QWIK7 Nov 12, 2007 06:33 PM

^^I agree. If your code was the map sensor, just change it. Its cheap insurance. The link above shows one for sale at 20.00 shipped.

Just buy it and hope that is really your problem. I think you have enough evidence showing that it is.

Va Rx-7 Dec 10, 2007 08:22 PM

same problem after replacing sensor
 
The same code came back after i replaced the sensor....after i replaced the sensor I did disconnect the battery and pushed the brake pedal. What else could be causing this same code???

ObliqueFD Dec 10, 2007 08:36 PM

It could be the ECU. I had a code for the fuel pump relay once and it ended up being the ECU, not the relay. If you can get your hands on a shop manual, you can check the continuity of the wires running to the ECU from the MAP sensor. If they are good, then see if you can locate another ECU to swap in.

Va Rx-7 Dec 11, 2007 05:53 PM

I got a PFC that im getting to install so i shouldn't worry about it??

dgeesaman Dec 11, 2007 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by Va Rx-7 (Post 7609295)
The same code came back after i replaced the sensor....after i replaced the sensor I did disconnect the battery and pushed the brake pedal. What else could be causing this same code???

Wiring harness. Have you checked the resistance of the branches of circuit through the harness?

The wiring in this car can see extreme heat, and when you start working on it you can create shorts and disconnects that will drive you stark raving mad later on. While replacing harnesses is costly and tedious, it is a huge step up in reliability.


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