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diablone 01-16-04 11:49 AM

BoostCrzy built it himself according to this thread. https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ighlight=brace

vosko 01-16-04 12:19 PM

i had been running both the trans and diff brace. works great the slight vibration is WORTH IT. i should have patented it now everyone is making them ;)

BoostCrzy 01-17-04 11:27 AM

yes...it was built by me ;) .....

t-von 01-17-04 04:50 PM

Re: Just installed my tranny brace
 

Originally posted by H2o
Hey guys, I just installed this. Got it from A-Spec. It really makes the transmission feel solid. I don't miss third anymore.
Mikey




Do you have an engine torque brace as well?



Does anyone know if this will elliminate the engine torque brace all by itself to elliminate the 3rd gear miss? I hope so.

alberto_mg 01-17-04 05:59 PM

i'm just guessing here, but I think the tranny brace will probably do more than the engine torque brace with regards to the drivetrain twisting under load and causing missed shifts. Given that the twisting action is from the tires trying to put the torque down.

H2o 01-20-04 06:34 PM

I have a GT35/40 with all the mods. I do not have an engine torque brace... still waiting on getting one. But, this does make a huge difference, and was worth the money to me anyway.

Flybye 01-20-04 06:46 PM

I don't know what the big hype of these engine torque damping thingys is. More engine Bay clutter.

I'm going with solid motor mounts :D
http://www.pac-gate.co.jp/feed/fd3s/fd-rem.jpg

$280

and I'll probably STILL end up getting a tranny mount.

1st to 3rd 01-20-04 07:37 PM

I have slight issue with this. In the boinger world of drag racing it's a big no-no to put solid tranny mounts in a car that has rubber engine mounts. Reason is the engine mounts allow the engine to torque and move and the transmission is solidly mounted. This makes the aluminum transmission a stressed member!
Check summit racing or jegs and you'll see the solid tranny mounts have a little disclaimer that they should only be used in conjunction with solid engine mounts.

Is this any reason my thinking is off?

suganuma 01-20-04 08:10 PM

Isn't the aluminum tranny already a "stressed member" in terms of drivetrain flex since it is braced by a steel PPF to the diff?

If anything becomes more stressed I think it would be the unibody of the car now at the mounting points for these and other braces....thereby the increased noise/harshness/vibration noticed. I am not sure how much force those 4 12mm bolts are meant to take in the "y" direction, but when installing my tranny brace I noticed the welds and actual brace bending to get everything toqued down fully so with any large load I think the welds would probably crack first.

I'm more worried about the vibration than the loads from the engine torquing over. When in neutral with the clutch out, I can hear my throwout bearing spinning....
I think I'm going to try out some rubber bushings. For what it's worth, I'm using polyurethane engine mounts.

VQracer 01-20-04 08:12 PM

Would this tranny brace interfere with any of these mounting points?

http://www.corksport.com/content/00/...ges/666577.jpg

Flybye 01-20-04 08:46 PM

I think they bolt up to different holes because the red ones hook up under the exhaust while the tranny brace hooks up above the exhaust.

alberto_mg 01-20-04 09:34 PM

yeah they do different things.

the auto exe/mazdzspeed stuff decrease chassis movement

the tranny and diff brace decrease drivetrain movement

jimlab 01-20-04 10:00 PM


Originally posted by VQracer
Would this tranny brace interfere with any of these mounting points?
The Auto EXE brace system would not interfere with the transmission brace being discussed, but would interfere with the differential brace shown in other threads, since it uses the same mounting points.

Flybye 01-20-04 10:14 PM


Originally posted by jimlab
The Auto EXE brace system would not interfere with the transmission brace being discussed, but would interfere with the differential brace shown in other threads, since it uses the same mounting points.
Who needs a Diff brace when we have Nylon Bushings :)

jimlab 01-20-04 10:44 PM


Originally posted by Flybye
Who needs a Diff brace when we have Nylon Bushings :)
Good point. :)

suganuma 01-21-04 12:15 AM


Originally posted by Flybye
Who needs a Diff brace when we have Nylon Bushings :)
b/c although the nylon bushings decrease movement over 2 axis (roll, yaw), it still reliies on the PPF to control the other (pitch). I think that's where most people are getting problems with wheel hop from and problems with cracking the diff casing? I plan on getting a diff brace just to alleviate that possible headache.

The bushings do definitely do a world of good though and I liked the bit of candor :)

-Nic

vosko 01-21-04 12:16 AM


Originally posted by jimlab
Good point. :)
me.......with jim's diff bushings i still would have exploded my diff casing!

trust me if it can be broken i can do it. who wants to put bets down. somehow i broke more than ernieT and his car was running 10's........ i am murphy's law anyway i'm gonna stop ranting now :D

RotorMotor 01-21-04 01:26 AM


Originally posted by MeLoco
I guess this could help www.a-spectuning.com
seems to be nothing on their website.... ???

VQracer 01-21-04 07:48 AM


Originally posted by jimlab
The Auto EXE brace system would not interfere with the transmission brace being discussed, but would interfere with the differential brace shown in other threads, since it uses the same mounting points.
thanks jim, guess i'll be ordering this brace then.

Zero R 01-21-04 09:24 AM


Originally posted by RotorMotor
seems to be nothing on their website.... ???

There is nothing on the website because I'm putting content together at this moment, it's a little hard to do between all the other stuff but it's getting there.

-Sean

Zero R 01-21-04 09:34 AM

I also agree with suganuma, the diff. bushings are nice but wouldn't help on the axis the diff brace does, as far as the trans brace creating a problem with the trans/bellhousing etc. I haven't had any problems yet and it's been quite awhile nor has anyone reported anything to me yet as well, they've been used in Japan for years and I haven't heard of any ill effects.If you feel uncomfortable that's fine I would say combine it with either stiffer engine mounts or a engine torque brace. For me I prefered the feel of this combined with a engine torque brace, over solid mounts it really stiffened up the drivetrain without the NVH that solid mounts create.

-Sean

RotorMotor 01-21-04 12:34 PM


Originally posted by VQracer
Would this tranny brace interfere with any of these mounting points?

http://www.corksport.com/content/00/...ges/666577.jpg

are these the mazdaspeed or auto exe braces?? anyone have the website for auto exe? they look nice

Zero R 01-21-04 12:41 PM

Those are auto exec braces and they wont interfere with the tranny brace.

-Sean

POM HB 01-21-04 03:30 PM

Sean,

I think you sell the diff brace too, right? If you do, can you confirm what JimLab said that the Auto Exe braces would interfere with the diff brace?

Thanks,

POM HB

vspecpgt 01-21-04 05:29 PM

where'd you guys get the rubber to put under the tranny brace... not that i really care... but my car vibrates alot!!!!


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