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the_glass_man 07-08-05 11:52 AM

Interest in a Alternator Relocation Bracket?
 
Ok, folks I need to see how many FD guys are interested in something like this.
Blake Qualley and Pineapple Racing have designed an Alternator relocation bracket for the FB/FC that allows you mount the alternator where the A/C and PS pump were previously located.

The benefits include lowering the weight and being able to run a electric water pump and water pump housing adapter.

They are willing to make or modify the current one to fit FD's if us FD guys can show enough interest and potential buyers (15+) of this product.

Here are a few pictures of the product that Blake posted in another thread.
http://pineappleracing.com/images/misc/altbracket1a.jpg
http://pineappleracing.com/images/misc/altbracket2a.jpg
http://pineappleracing.com/images/misc/altbracket3a.jpg
http://pineappleracing.com/images/misc/altbracket4a.jpg
http://pineappleracing.com/images/misc/altbracket5a.jpg
http://pineappleracing.com/images/misc/altbracket7a.jpg

More images and information can be found in the following
thread.
Please don't post in that thread, instead express your interest in this thread.

atihun 07-08-05 01:32 PM

Will they provide a useful waterpump pulley as well?

Mr. Stock 07-08-05 01:52 PM

I am very interested in this.

nashman69g 07-08-05 01:54 PM

If so I want a nicer looking bracket...All fine and dandy for the fb/fc folk but for us fd guys we need some nicer stuff to make it worth while IMO! As for the electric water and housing we would need that too. Might as well do all the work at the same time!

rockshox 07-08-05 03:58 PM

im interested, what is the expected cost? not sure what kind of bling nashman likes but it looks nicely made to me.

Mr. Stock 07-08-05 04:41 PM

Yes it looks OEM.
Nashman probably wants chrome which would look nice.

yodaddy 07-08-05 05:44 PM

price estimate? i am very interested.

the_glass_man 07-08-05 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by atihun
Will they provide a useful waterpump pulley as well?

I don't think so, but you could ask. I've got an electric water pump and no housing or water pump pulley.


Originally Posted by nashman69g
If so I want a nicer looking bracket...All fine and dandy for the fb/fc folk but for us fd guys we need some nicer stuff to make it worth while IMO! As for the electric water and housing we would need that too. Might as well do all the work at the same time!

I think it looks perfectly fine and I'm one of the most anal people I know. Personally I think it looks great, but you could get it powdercoated or chromed or whatever floats your boat.

As for the water pump housing you can already purchase one of those from Summit or KG Parts.


Originally Posted by rockshox
im interested, what is the expected cost? not sure what kind of bling nashman likes but it looks nicely made to me.

As far as price goes, I don't know, but I would imagine that it would be similar if not almost identical to the other brackets they will be making. I'll see if I can get Blake to chime in on some of these questions for us.

It looks like we have the ball rolling folks, hopefully we can get a few more people interested and can convince Rob and Blake to make some up for the FD crowd. :)

tt2323 07-08-05 07:50 PM

I have some interest granted the price is decent

rx7tt95 07-08-05 08:07 PM

I'm interested, even though I'll have to hack the crap out of it to fit the new 200A alternator!

Hyperite 07-08-05 08:34 PM

IN for 200A relocated bracket.

Hyperite 07-08-05 09:56 PM

Wait...can I still keep Power Steering and A/C with this?

afterburn27 07-08-05 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by Hyperite
Wait...can I still keep Power Steering and A/C with this?

doesn't look like it

Swolbynos 07-08-05 10:36 PM

im in...




Originally Posted by Hyperite
IN for 200A relocated bracket.


this would be a nice option

black93RX7 07-08-05 11:12 PM

I'm interested, but wouldn't an electric water bump be less reliable?

How much is an electric water pump? This is important since depending on the additional cost.

the_glass_man 07-09-05 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by Hyperite
Wait...can I still keep Power Steering and A/C with this?

No


Originally Posted by black93RX7
I'm interested, but wouldn't an electric water bump be less reliable?

How much is an electric water pump? This is important since depending on the additional cost.

An electric water pump isn't necessarily less reliable than the stock pump. Besides the additional horsepower gain from less parasitic drag you can also set up a electric pump to continue cycle coolant after you shut the vehicle off. Doing so decreases heat soak.
Cost wise depending on the pump and options you want you are looking $150-$300

As for cost of the bracket, I've been told that it will be in the $50-$85 range depending on options and quantity.

Railgun 07-09-05 10:08 AM

Looks good, but I'd need to see it installed first to look at clearance issues. I have my ignition amp installed on the rail there and don't want to run into any issues with that.

Otherwise, looks good.

Asleep 07-09-05 01:25 PM

Interested. I have everything else...just been waiting for someone to make this bracket before I had to.

the_glass_man 07-12-05 05:10 PM

I've received a few PM's regarding my electronic water pump setup. For those of you who are interested in a similar setup here's what I have.

For the water pump I have a Davies Craig EWP and Controller
http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/images/ewp1.jpg
http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/elecpump.htm
I can get them cheaper if anyone is interested.

For the water pump adapter I have a Meziere water pump block adapter.
http://img16.exs.cx/img16/5189/adapter7td.jpg
It comes in two styles one with two or three ports.
http://img107.exs.cx/img107/686/im0007297co.jpg
http://img107.exs.cx/img107/2072/im0007305jd.jpg
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...=KeywordSearch

Or you could use the KG Parts one if you like.
http://kgparts.com/images/Turbo/kgwpf.jpg
http://kgparts.com/diy.htm
Or you could make your own if you wish.

I also have an Unorthodox Racing Ultra R main pulley, but you could use the stock one and just take off the front section.

Carlos (Spic Racer) runs a similar setup with great success on his GT40 FD.
http://img143.exs.cx/img143/5552/setup7hq.jpg
https://www.rx7club.com/build-threads-292/spic-racer-gt40r-414533/

All I need is the alternator mount to finish my installation.

saxyman990 07-12-05 06:54 PM

Glass Man: Looks good, and definitely provides for an interesting option.

But I'm curious as to how much support you'll get from the FD community for this. Relocating the alternator means that you MUST run an electric water pump (unlike FB/FC). I understand that there are some people running e-pumps (as you pointed out), and others that are interesting in going that route. But I'm wondering if there's gonna be enough support for an Alt relocation bracket to make it worth Pineapple's time to build.

Good luck with this though, I'm interested to see how it turns out!

-Rob

SPOautos 07-12-05 07:03 PM

Glassman, you can count on me to buy one. I wish it was lower more like where they ac goes instead of ps...but I dont really care. Either will be fine, I just have a preferance for a/c locations.

Try to get them to throw in a good quality belt (Goodyear or something) thats the correct size (obviously they can add it to the price).

LUPE 07-12-05 07:52 PM

What's the benefit of relocating this?

the_glass_man 07-12-05 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by LUPE
What's the benefit of relocating this?

Well there are several benefits of doing the conversion.
First you bringing the weight farther down into the chassis. This might not make much of a difference for most folks as they might not be able to fully appreciate the benefits it provides.

For the weight weenies (myself included) you are losing some weight from the engine as the water pump housing weighs much more than a normal electric water pump.

Also you are freeing up some extra horsepower by reducing parasitic drag.

With my setup you can set the pump to continue to run after you shut the vehicle off to reduce thermal stress and heat soak.

Swolbynos 07-12-05 09:50 PM


Originally Posted by the_glass_man
With my setup you can set the pump to continue to run after you shut the vehicle off to reduce thermal stress and heat soak.


that is what im in it for

Mr. Stock 07-13-05 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by SPOautos
I wish it was lower more like where they ac goes instead of ps...

I, too, prefer this location since the primary reason why I am relocating the alternator is to decrease the center of gravity.


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