man talk about coming back from the dead... i was like wtf i don't remember posting that. but someone around here has install pics... i just can't remember

Striker,

I ended up going with the M2 Large SMIC becuase the I didn't want to mess with the FMIC install. From all that i read, the FMIC install is a real PITA!.

You don't have to relocate the battery with the M2/ASP large SMIC...the mini battery fits in the stock location next to the Smic. I can email you a pic of mine if you want.

John

Striker,

I ended up going with the M2 Large SMIC becuase the I didn't want to mess with the FMIC install. From all that i read, the FMIC install is a real PITA!.

You don't have to relocate the battery with the M2/ASP large SMIC...the mini battery fits in the stock location next to the Smic. Here's a pic:

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...threadid=96505
John

i want more info on the a/c situation. i plan on using a npr i/c and DON'T want to lose my a/c. i don't plan on driving this car everyday, but definitly don't want to drive it anyday w/out air....yeah,yeah,yeah except in the winter.(i'm sure somebody would say something about that). anyway, going to school check back tonight. gimme answers!! please

wow that looks good... especially with the polished airbox. thats the m2 box right? just in alum?

Ok this is a newbe question but has anyone out a fan behind their IC to help with airflow?

Also what does smin stand for.. (no flames please as I would not ask if I knew)

talk to vosko the forum member i belive he has the gredddy one

Stock Mount Inter Cooler

thanks

Word of advise. If you want to get an aftermarket intercooler get you ecu first. Many people make this mistake over the years I know of many people who have killed there engine because they do not do things in correct order. If you have catback or any mod on exhaust & an induction kit your ok without running lean. If you do any other mod after this you'll run lean. You'll feel great power increase etc but I bet you withing next 5,000 miles you'll have dead engine. The intercooler not only cools the intake charge, when the intake charge is cooled and becaomes more dense it means that more inatke charge is aloud into engine. cooler air means more power, but cooler air and more volume of air means alot more power. So my point is not only do you get cooler air in the engine you get alot more air in the engine because the more cooler the air is the more dense it becomes, the more dense it becomes means the more room there is for more. If you have a lot more air in your engine without any compensation for more fuel you will run lean, have higher combustion temperature, detonation = dead engine alot quicker. Get ecu upgrade first then you are safe to mess around with intercooler, but don't make the mistake of doing the intercooler and think you only need ecu for mid pipe, you'll regret it.

Regards

Brian

another word to the wise

that little greddy is a POS....and is way too small.

get a real intercooler...not something barely better than stock.

j

the m2 large is the way to go. its huge and it performs.

Ok, so I read the whole post in hopes of finding out what Large SMIC I can purchase (don't care if I have to relocate the battery) that will work with my twins and then will also work when I go single next year...anyone?

I think most people would agree that the M2 large is the best "large" SMIC.

rynberg: caveat that "best large SMIC *currently available*" ;)
Regards,
Crispy
- user of a very fine CWR "large" SMIC

so can it be used with both the twins and a single?

Is the CWR = Crooked Willow Racing (sp) bigger than the M2?

i was planing on going with the Blitz FMIC. Any reason for me not to? From reading this i didnt really get any feel that i shouldnt, but i was hoping it could MAYBE get addressed a bit more for me.

Also, Just for arguments sake, If i got a new IC and had a boost controler and limited my boost to 10psi would i still run lean even if i didnt have an upgraded ecu?

Hank

If you mount a fan on the intercooler will it compensate for heat soak?

Sorry...didn't see earlier post.

Rikki, what intake charge temps are you getting there this time of year???

apneablue:
Yes CWR = Crooked Willow Racing
Yes it can be used with twins or a single
Yes it is marginally bigger than the M2 large
CWR SMIC core dim. 13" x 17" x 3.5" = 773.5cuin volume
ASP race (M2 large)12.55" x 17" x 3.5" = 746.7cuin volume
In either case they are both HUGE - splitting hairs but I much prefer the end tank design of the CWR vs the M2

Regards,
Crispy

Crispy,
thanks...do you have the CRW SMIC? if yes, did you have to relocate your battery and how was the fitment?

R U twin or single?

here's his website (nice website by the way!)

http://www.negative-camber.org/crispyrx7/cwric.htm

http://ebay0.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_...c1/i-3_B_L.JPG

Go with the stock one like this guy did. :wtf:

The M2 Med is likely the functionally optimal SMIC, imo. Due to the limited ducted airflow, the large M2 bulk will rarely show a significant performance advantage over the Med, which is also under ducted. Example would be once cooled to ambient, the large will provide slightly cooler air at the end of a dyno run, road sprint, or auto x, due to more pre-cooled mass in core. SCC meas'd only 6F advantage with 3rd gear run. But at road course, same max temp due to limited ducted air.

At road course, the fmic will give colder charge air, but overheating coolant is issue. The M2's will hold charge temps to a reasonable limit . At thunderhill, 85F day, scc meas'd 158F with M2 Med, vs 248F with stock IC, 13 psi boost. With M2 IC and m-comp rad, coolant was 210F max.

Traffic crawl with ac on will blow hot underhood air back thru smic. Fan on smic will control heak soak well.

FD fans:

http://www.rotarypowered.com/img/pic...ntercooler.gif

http://www.maxcooper.com/rx7/how-to/ic_fan/index.html

FD IC's:

http://www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7/i...olers.html#FAN

So what about Chuck Huang's RE HMIC
 

He uses a huge and efficient core with 935 cfm capacity? Is the HMIC another option for road racers if the SMIC is not ideal for using an Anfini Y-pipe??

http://www.rotaryextreme.com/rehmic.html