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Old Apr 17, 2008 | 10:02 PM
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Installing engine with or without tranny?

I have my engine apart right now, but when I put it back, I'm thinking about pulling the tranny and installing them together and then in the car, if that makes installation easier. Anyone agree? Any tips?
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Old Apr 17, 2008 | 11:39 PM
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I can't see how that would make it easier, just my opinion...

prep the tranny and get a jack under it before you go to reinstall the engine, jack it up so you have enough room for the engine mounts to clear the subframe, get the input shaft on and a couple tranny bolts snugged up, then lower the whole thing down.

I just pulled my motor not to long ago and it came right out with no problems leaving the transmission in the car, the reverse I expect will be just as easy .

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Old Apr 17, 2008 | 11:59 PM
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I pull them together. Reinstall is easier IMHO with the trans attached.

The starter and both wiring harnesses stay on the motor trans combo. You can keep the DP or Pre-cat attached also. Much easier to attach the two in a wide open space rather than under the car.
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Old Apr 18, 2008 | 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by turbojeff
I pull them together. Reinstall is easier IMHO with the trans attached.

The starter and both wiring harnesses stay on the motor trans combo. You can keep the DP or Pre-cat attached also. Much easier to attach the two in a wide open space rather than under the car.
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Old Apr 18, 2008 | 04:38 AM
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Note - any time the engine is out of the car, always install the transmission back on it while out rather than fight the alignment under the car ( risk damaging the Pilot bearing and seal ).



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Old Apr 18, 2008 | 08:57 AM
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yeah and on top of that? getting to the 5 or 6 bolts that hold the tranny on there from underneath is a HUGE pain in the ***... tons of extensions, and u joints and all that crap...

if you ask me? install it with the tranny already bolted into place...
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Old Apr 18, 2008 | 09:09 AM
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I would also have to say put the engine back in with the tranny already mounted. I have never, personally, pulled the engine. However I just got done with getting a bunch of stuff done to mine (BNR's, Clutch, fuel pump/injectors, etc) which involved pulling the engine, my mechanic had the engine stripped and completely out in 2 hours, took him all of 10-15 minutes to get her put back in (though not completely re-assembled) and attached to the transmission with the tranny remaining in the car.

+1 for leaving the Tranny in the car.
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Old Apr 18, 2008 | 09:28 AM
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IF you have the right tools I would say leave the trans in the car. If you dont have long extensions with swivels then do them together. I leave the trans in and find it much easier than dealing with the PPF.
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Well for some reason my car has an automatic rear iron and doesn't line up with all of the tranny bolts. Getting all the bolts out wasn't too difficult and I think getting them back in shouldn't be too hard either. So if I leave the tranny in the car, should I install the pressure plate/clutch on the motor and line it up in the tranny, or line up the flywheel to the clutch etc.?
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 07:33 AM
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Indeed it is easier to stab the motor to transmission out of the car, but certainly not worth the effort to pull the transmission at this point. I personally find it easier to pull just the motor any way, dealing with the PPF, drive shaft, and shifter is way more work than just the 6 bell housing bolts and the input shaft.

Install the clutch and pressure plate to the motor. You dont want to have to lay under the car going through the inspection hole to torque the little bolts for the pressure plate to flywheel.
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom93R1
Indeed it is easier to stab the motor to transmission out of the car, but certainly not worth the effort to pull the transmission at this point. I personally find it easier to pull just the motor any way, dealing with the PPF, drive shaft, and shifter is way more work than just the 6 bell housing bolts and the input shaft.

Install the clutch and pressure plate to the motor. You dont want to have to lay under the car going through the inspection hole to torque the little bolts for the pressure plate to flywheel.
I agree 100%
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 03:14 PM
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Thanks guys
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 03:36 PM
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If you can have them both out definitely put them both together. There's absolutely no advantage to trying to line up the motor with the input or the tranny to the engine. The guys above in this thread cover the benefits already... Case closed!
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