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twomucboost4u 01-10-07 06:29 PM

Imort tuner Magazine Article True?
 
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So I was reading this article and I just couldnt find it to be true under what I believe to be true. So they start off with a base of 230 which sounds right they add an intake and get 8hp then they add the exhaust sytem they dont spesify if its catback, hi-cat, downpipe but lets imaging that it is and they get 4hp from that with a intake and exhaust hp of 242 which is 12 above stock not hard to believe. Now this is what doesnt make sence they add a PFC and commander and they get 292 which is another 50hp!!! now what they said they did doesnt make sence. 1. they said they bumped the boost up to 14 lbs on stock turbos if thats the case2. how did they do it with stock fuel. 3.they also mention in the article that the car was tuned with reliability in mind so they didnt push the numbers, stock turbos 14lbs and stock fuel? From everything that i have heard on this forum that cant be true or reliable. Did they have some kind of super tuner? What is your guys input on this?

apex_sideway 01-10-07 06:31 PM

Don't trust anything that magazine says.

GoodfellaFD3S 01-10-07 06:37 PM

That FD looks pretty damn mean, I like it :).

230 rwhp is strong for a stock car, I wonder if it has a fresh motor.

For comparison sake, with a fresh reman and new twins, my dad's R1 made 290 rwhp with intake, dp, catback, and 12 psi with a pfs piggyback purple box. stock main cat and stock intercooler.

Hey, I think we should be happy to see magazines still running articles on the FD :git:

rynberg 01-10-07 06:38 PM

How do they have a non-sequential like power curve and still have a transition spike? LOL

And yes, SCC and Grassroots Motorsports are about the only magazines that you can trust any of the data from.

twomucboost4u 01-10-07 06:43 PM

Lets just say this is a brand new set of twins and brand new OEM motor from Japan are those numbers possible with stock intercooler and fuel? 14lbs?

dubulup 01-10-07 07:02 PM

isn't that article about 4-5 years old? I believe there is another FD in the mag. lots of stickers etc.

twomucboost4u 01-10-07 07:05 PM

Says on the cover June of 06 I was looking through my magazines and ran into this on accident.

Tom93R1 01-10-07 07:08 PM

292 sounds a little on the high end for those mods, but like you said we dont know the extent of the exhaust. And you can do over 300 on stock fuel with a PFC. I wouldnt completely disbelieve the numbers, but I also wouldnt expect to get 292 if I had the same mods.

Fd3BOOST 01-10-07 07:14 PM

I ran 15psi on a purple box with the stock fuel set up for close to two years and I managed not to blow it up.

Rxmfn7 01-10-07 07:21 PM

I was running 14psi on a Pettit Unlimited on stock fuel system, no problems and car ran great. Best trap of 113mph.

Rex7-93 01-10-07 08:11 PM

sweet looking car

turboefini88 01-10-07 08:17 PM

Based on the need for a 17 mm socket/ratchet combo and 17 mm wrench, along with 1 hour to do the mod, I would assume it to be a cat back only exhaust.

Trexthe3rd 01-10-07 09:16 PM

Why is it so hard to believe? People are so paranoid about the "stock system", all kinds of misinformation has been passed around. Try to find any thread that talks about the "stock fuel system" being weak that had any supporting numbers like max injector duty cycle.

That being said, I ran 16psi on stock turbos, stock fuel system, and pettit ecu, dynoed at 320 to the wheel (this is assuming the condition of your stock fuel system is healthy, don't try to do this with sticky injectors and clogged up fuel filter and a 13year old fuel pump. Don't blame the stock fuel system when you don't perform the required maintenance). Max inj duty cycle didn't go pass 90%, I know there will always be people stressing over inj duty cycle over 75%, if you want that much safety margin that's your choice. Ran for 2 years before going single without a problem, fuel system was only upgraded when going to single.

ihavetwins 01-10-07 09:21 PM

that sounds about right. with any EMS sysytem and tuned it should make good power

chinaman 01-10-07 09:28 PM

I remember that car! That's a very old pic.

JeffShoots 01-10-07 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by Rxmfn7
I was running 14psi on a Pettit Unlimited on stock fuel system, no problems and car ran great. Best trap of 113mph.

I ran the Pettit limited/stock fuel and Cam had me do a few small tricks (1st turbo actuator/ 2nd turbo pills) for a 12-8-(spike 16) than 14psi steady. My car ran like that for many years with no problems and would get sideways on the spike at ~75mph. Loved it :)

JP's 93 fd 01-11-07 02:04 AM

Clear things up!!!
 
So rx7s in the us had 230hp to the wheels or 255hp to the wheels. I'm getting confused. Efini rx7's push 280hp right?

jay3 01-11-07 02:24 AM

255 is the rated hp. not ATW.

on another note: if only JeffShoots got $1 for every post he made on these forums. do you really have over 1.1 million posts? :icon_tup:

aoc007 01-11-07 03:21 AM


Originally Posted by rynberg
How do they have a non-sequential like power curve and still have a transition spike? LOL

And yes, SCC and Grassroots Motorsports are about the only magazines that you can trust any of the data from.

Thats the one that got me hahaha. And in the second one the huge spike then drop then spike back???

-Andy

NissanConvert 01-11-07 06:47 AM

I can believe that they "tuned for reliability" but turned the boost up for one "lets see what this car can do" run. I can also believe that they lifted the hood for that run and soaked the stock intercooler with your choice of gasses.

People won't read your articles if you don't make big numbers.


Originally Posted by JP's 93 fd
So rx7s in the us had 230hp to the wheels or 255hp to the wheels. I'm getting confused. Efini rx7's push 280hp right?

255 at the flywheel -10% lost through the drivetrain: ~230

ultmtrx8 01-11-07 09:32 AM

damn that fd is nice, iam loving the wheels.

GoodfellaFD3S 01-11-07 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by jay3
255 is the rated hp. not ATW.

on another note: if only JeffShoots got $1 for every post he made on these forums. do you really have over 1.1 million posts? :icon_tup:

He gave himself 1 million posts a few months ago, one of the benefits of super moderator-dom :)

KevinK2 01-11-07 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by JP's 93 fd
So rx7s in the us had 230hp to the wheels or 255hp to the wheels. I'm getting confused. Efini rx7's push 280hp right?

Typical dynojet stock was 222 ish. They had a generous dyno, or it was not exactly stock.

JeffShoots 01-11-07 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
He gave himself 1 million posts a few months ago, one of the benefits of super moderator-dom :)

Almost, I was asked if it was possible to get to 1 million posts?

Didn't know but figured the forum would count up so I give myself 99 thousand posts and posted for a few months.

Now I know what your all thinking and no I don't care if it counts to a BILLION :wallbash:

BTW: anyone gets to a million posts must get some kind of prize?

jay3 01-11-07 04:45 PM

a free oem door handle


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