how's this for cold air??
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Just finished a customer's car that wanted a cold air duct routed to the compressor housing. Parts of the engine has been taken out for polishing but you get the picture. My welding on the aluminum box isn't good especially since it's 18ga so don't make fun of it:) It will be painted black anyways.
I'm sure more pics will be posted after all the polished parts are installed. Stay tuned |
piping looks JDM sytle
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you went through all the trouble of providing a direct path to the turbo for rocks and road debris? :)
practice safe CAI and put a K&N in there. |
Originally Posted by alberto_mg
you went through all the trouble of providing a direct path to the turbo for rocks and road debris? :)
practice safe CAI and put a K&N in there. -Alex |
Originally Posted by alberto_mg
you went through all the trouble of providing a direct path to the turbo for rocks and road debris? :)
practice safe CAI and put a K&N in there. |
Originally Posted by TT_Rex_7
I'd think that the piece of wire screen that you see on the car in the 4th picture is probably going in front of the duct where the a second oil cooler would normally be, and besides how he has it setup it doesnt keep you from putting a filter on the end of the piping where it meets the duct. ;) Anywho, nice job John, looks good, and I was planing on trying to do something simliar to that!
-Alex Also, with a twin turbo setup, something like this would just look sick!!! |
Thats a nice one off air duct
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wow that is real nice work !!
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Originally Posted by LT1-7
Actually, the screen is what I took off the C-West bumper cover. We're going to run inline filters (screens) within the piping. Probably end up using about 3 filters, this should do the job well.
Also, with a twin turbo setup, something like this would just look sick!!! -Alex |
Could you show more pics of where the filter would be? (i kinda know but i wanna see lol) And also maybe a view from the bottom showing there what duct is routing the air toward?
I like the set up. Props to you dude. Jeremy |
First of all, nice work. The compressor intake temp and pressure matter more than most people think, even if you have a huge IC, etc. to cool things down afterward.
I'd put a filter on there if it was my car. I don't trust those screens to filter enough and I think they block the flow a lot more than it looks like they would. One real air filter probably flows a lot better and filters MUCH better than a collection of simple screens the same size as the pipe. Those screens are deceptively restrictive (40% blockage for the one in the pic is my guess). K&Ns get dirty fast, though, so it will be high maintenance so close to the road. It might not be much of a problem if you could get at it without having to take too many things apart, though. Maybe just connect it to the end of the pipe and pull the pipe to get at the filter? Maybe some kind of baffles could be designed into the filter pocket to block a lot of the junk that will be flying at the element all the time. -Max |
Originally Posted by maxcooper
First of all, nice work. The compressor intake temp and pressure matter more than most people think, even if you have a huge IC, etc. to cool things down afterward.
I'd put a filter on there if it was my car. I don't trust those screens to filter enough and I think they block the flow a lot more than it looks like they would. One real air filter probably flows a lot better and filters MUCH better than a collection of simple screens the same size as the pipe. Those screens are deceptively restrictive (40% blockage for the one in the pic is my guess). K&Ns get dirty fast, though, so it will be high maintenance so close to the road. It might not be much of a problem if you could get at it without having to take too many things apart, though. Maybe just connect it to the end of the pipe and pull the pipe to get at the filter? Maybe some kind of baffles could be designed into the filter pocket to block a lot of the junk that will be flying at the element all the time. -Max -Alex Edit: Well he posted "filters (screens)" not quire sure if he means actuall filters, or screens used as a filter. |
Pretty sweet.
I've got a comment also, not completely directed at you, mostly I'm thinking 'out loud' so to speak: I've never seen a factory setup with metal intake pipes. I wonder if it's because of the manufacturing (making plastic molds vs hiring welders), or if they are doing it because of something else like weight differences, various heat transfer properties, longevity, etc... It would be interesting to see some sort of numbers on a metal intake duct vs. plastic vs. carbon. -s- |
l;ooks like it sucks hot air directly off the engine block. bad engineering
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Nice work. Keep us posted on the final product. BTW....in that second pic. that coolant hose coming off the water pump housing looks to be kinked pretty bad.
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Originally Posted by 7apex7
l;ooks like it sucks hot air directly off the engine block. bad engineering
-Alex |
Originally Posted by LT1-7
Haha!! Inline filters will be added. We could suck up a pretty good size rat with this:)
He is still going to be sucking in hot air because the radiant heat off the asphalt is hotter the further down you go especially in the summer. This is good for a ram-air type of effect. Nice job though! |
Originally Posted by t-von
He is still going to be sucking in hot air because the radiant heat off the asphalt is hotter the further down you go especially in the summer. This is good for a ram-air type of effect. Nice job though!
-Alex |
cone welds give me an erection
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that deans car?
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I have always had plans to engineer something like that when I go single, now I don’t have to, lol. I think that is one of the best ideas for a single turbo, I hate the thought of the filter being buried in the engine bay, right in front of the manifold. Good job.
Edit: he must have a sleek headlight conversion cause where the piping is routed it looks like that’s right where the flip-up headlight would go when the light was down, I ask cuz I looked at my car for a route to do this before. |
Originally Posted by LT1-7
Actually, the screen is what I took off the C-West bumper cover. We're going to run inline filters (screens) within the piping. Probably end up using about 3 filters, this should do the job well.
Also, with a twin turbo setup, something like this would just look sick!!! |
Awesome work! Fuckin great welding btw!!!
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I don't even want to know why the intake side of the compressor is piped into the IC, and the compressor side is facing the air filter... unless it's some sort of "New" turbo... :D
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Originally Posted by DCrosby
I don't even want to know why the intake side of the compressor is piped into the IC, and the compressor side is facing the air filter... unless it's some sort of "New" turbo... :D
-Alex Edit: I see what your saying, the inlet on the front turbo is going to the intercooler. |
Is there anyway to route it to the opening where a second oil cooler would sit WITH pop up headlights?! I'd go look myself but I dont have my car with me right now.
-Alex |
Sorry, the IC is out of the car in that picture. The one tube goes through the middle of the duct over to the driver side headlight for a second cold air filter. As Alex mentioned that other tube is going to the intake of the second turbo.
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Originally Posted by 7apex7
l;ooks like it sucks hot air directly off the engine block. bad engineering
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Originally Posted by t-von
He is still going to be sucking in hot air because the radiant heat off the asphalt is hotter the further down you go especially in the summer. This is good for a ram-air type of effect. Nice job though!
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Originally Posted by RX7WEEE
that deans car?
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Originally Posted by scotty305
Pretty sweet.
I've got a comment also, not completely directed at you, mostly I'm thinking 'out loud' so to speak: I've never seen a factory setup with metal intake pipes. I wonder if it's because of the manufacturing (making plastic molds vs hiring welders), or if they are doing it because of something else like weight differences, various heat transfer properties, longevity, etc... |
Nice, tidy job. Looks to be effective.
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Almost the same thing I did for my TO4R. I wedged a filter in the cooler duct though. Very nice craftsmanship. :)
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Great fab job, but, um, what happens when the compressor ingests a pigeon? :D
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Originally Posted by broken93
Great fab job, but, um, what happens when the compressor ingests a pigeon? :D
Looks awesome, and gives me an idea. |
Nice job.
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Originally Posted by 7apex7
l;ooks like it sucks hot air directly off the engine block. bad engineering
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Originally Posted by RX7WEEE
that deans car?
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What about the piping for the IC? Where will that go?
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Originally Posted by RX7-2JOCK
HELL YES !!!! Sweet job John http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/...iggthumpup.gif Just as I pictured it !!......But don't forget who's idea it was ;)
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Originally Posted by LT1-7
You bitch!!:)
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Originally Posted by c00lduke
What about the piping for the IC? Where will that go?
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what turbo is that? GT35R?
edit: just saw sig, nvm |
Originally Posted by RX&-2JOCK
HELL YES !!!! Sweet job John Just as I pictured it !!......But don't forget who's idea it was
Originally Posted by LT1-7
You bitch!!:)
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nice job......keep away from puddles
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This car has run the Veilside front w/ two K&N cylindrical cleaners for several years in all weather with no problems at all. The bench racers can't know it, but your setup will work great.
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Originally Posted by papsmagu
nice job......keep away from puddles
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Originally Posted by TT_Rex_7
I'd have to disagree, thats like saying "radiant heat off the asphalt" is flowing hot air through a front mount and/or oil coolers. If your driving, the little heat thats coming off the asphalt isnt going to do a damn thing because your going to have fresh cool air going through it.
-Alex |
Originally Posted by LT1-7
What are you smoking man!?! Hell will freeze over before you could convince me engine bay temps are lower than air 12" from the ground on any given summer's day.
I'm not smoking anything I understand the concept. Yes the temps will be lower than compared to inside the engine bay. My point is that you picked the lowest place to pull in cold air which is not the best place. However it's the most convient spot to do so. If you could have gone higher it would have been better especially if he gets caught in a rain storm. |
Originally Posted by t-von
What are you disagreeing with? So your telling me that there wont be any hot air comming in with an intake that low on a hot summer day? Go out side an feel how hot the asfault gets when it's 100+ degrees outside. The air just above the asfault is as hot as the asphalt itself. Temps can reach 120-130 degrees down there. Ever heard of the term track temps? By the way FMIC's get the same hot air too. I'm not saying this shouldn't be done but it really depends where you live. Where I'm from most of the asfault on our streets as black. So I personally would never do a mod like this. Plus some of our areas flood pretty easily.
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